what am i doing wrong??

lakers334

Member
OK here is what i have going.

area: 4ft by 3ft about 2.5 deep
lights/time cycle: 1 x 150watts hds 2 x 150watts cfl on at the same time. 18/6 cycle
soil: Fox Farm [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Ocean Forest[/FONT]
Water/Fertilizer: 1 liter water a day for 3 plants i water till i see a little water in drip pan. Fertilizer MG tomato plant food 18-18-21 box says 1/2 teaspoon with 2 quarts of water. so what i do is 1 teaspoon for 1 liter of water, at the time i was doing this 2 times a week (i know rookie mistake, like every newbie out there) i stopped all together with the fertilizer cuz of the how 2 of my plants are reacting.
Air flow/temp: temp on floor 80 degrees and at the top by the lights is 83 degrees.. I have intake fan that keeps plants dancing, and exhaust fan on top of my box. i cycles the air pretty good and i can adjust for more air flow.
Plant type/age: 2 gd kush 1 sesca fres ( i think that's the name) all 3 where bought clones from same store about 8 weeks ago.

OK with that said here is whats going on the gd kush has stop growing and leafs are wilting but the sesca fres is growing like a champ so much that i have started to super crop a few stems here and there, im not sure what the deal is the leafs are a dark green but wilted, i dont know what the hell is going on.. I visited my local hydro shop with a sample of my leafs they said too much fertilizer they said flush with water only, then when the plant picks up fertilize 1 time a week with a 60 dollar fertilizer they sold :evil: (what ever).. I then stopped at Osh the one with the sweet old lady that know plants, she said i may be over watering ?? so im not sure what im doing wrong please help...

be merciless with the critic please, i don't mind as long as its constructive and i can bongsmiliemy ass of later..

thanks guys!

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Johnny Retro

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Get rid of the mg ferts, go buy some organics from your hydro store like the guy said. You'll see the difference
 

cowboylogic

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Looks over fed and over watered. I think they are both correct. Let them dry until the pots feel light. Then just phed water for a few weeks. And get some proper nutes, JR is right, you will se a difference.
 

Bigby

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Water, then let the plant totally dry out before watering again. Its up to the plant how long this takes, so dont have a schedule. Watering every day is rarely necessary (usually only when a large plant is in a small pot).

Also, either GREATLY REDUCE the amounts of nutrients you're using, because its so so strong (far too strong for marijuana in truth). Or, as has been said, get yourself some low strength organic nutrients that's made for marijuana. Just to give you an idea on the difference in strength - yours is 18-18-21 and the organic one im using is 2-6-3.5 - of course yours is for veg and mine is for flower, but as you can see, yours is about 7 times stronger. Im only using 2ml per litre of water, so you should be using about 0.3ml per litre - that's less than 1ml per gallon. :peace:
 

LadyKimi

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Def over watering for sure. Your roots can not get the oxygen nor will the "stretch out" looking for moisture (this is why you only water when they are dry)

Even though you have over watered I would suggest a really good flush with neutral PH water to get rid of any salt build up from the MG and then a few days of drying out time.

A low cost nute solution (non organic) is Jacks Classic. It is water soluble crystals with a 20/20/20 nute level so usage for MJ is 1/8 teaspoon per gallon up to 1/4 teaspoon after a few weeks. An 8oz tub is roughly $6.00 and will last forever.

Kimi
 

smallclosetgrowr

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yep do not water everyday and your in veg get rid of those shit nutes u want something like 8.3.5 for your npk , your potassium is way to high.
 

lakers334

Member
Thank for all the reply's guys, here i thought the guy at the hydro store wanted to bend me over, should i buy the all in one fertilizer like the fox farm one or should i buy the 2 part nutrients one like the hydro guy said, 60 buck is a lot of cash i could get top shelf bud for 60 bucks..
if paying more will be better for my plants Ill pay for the all organic, i just don't want to find out i could have been doing cheaper with same results with a non organic stuff

I looked up Jacks Classic 9-12-22 is that good or is still to high ?? cuz 6 buck sound really good :) !! how often should i fertilize the plants??
 

jondamon

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For veg you want something along the lines of a 3-1-2 ratio

then for flowering you want something along the lines of a 2-1-3. You dont need as much P with indoor growing as it doesnt get leached out of the medium like it would with growing outdoors.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

J
 

cowboylogic

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Dyna Grow is a solid choice. Also Foxfarms is not a one part. Its actually a 2 part for both veg and bloom. Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. The Big Bloom is used the entire grow and is pretty important part of the formula. You can use GB or TB stand alone. But you run a good chance of seeing some micro def.
 

lakers334

Member
OK here is an up date on my plants :plant1.jpgplant6.jpgplant5.jpgplant2.jpgplant2.jpgplant4.jpg
I bought general organics biothrive 4-3-3, i water my plants only when there dry so over water shouldn't be an issue, i check my ph of water before i add nutes and after,,, could it be that i just got a funny plant ?? my other plants are doing really good and so is its clone, the the other plants just will not grow and its clone is acting the same way..

Should i just pull the plug on the sick plant and just clone the other one??
 

quietguy420

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OK here is an up date on my plants :View attachment 1072434View attachment 1072435View attachment 1072436View attachment 1072437View attachment 1072437View attachment 1072438
I bought general organics biothrive 4-3-3, i water my plants only when there dry so over water shouldn't be an issue, i check my ph of water before i add nutes and after,,, could it be that i just got a funny plant ?? my other plants are doing really good and so is its clone, the the other plants just will not grow and its clone is acting the same way..

Should i just pull the plug on the sick plant and just clone the other one??
NO WAY your by no means past the point of no return on any of them, just let them ride and get yourself some Pool PH test strips and some cheap Aquarium ph up an down.
 
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