NugHeuser
Well-Known Member
So about 3 weeks ago, some of my, now month old plants started showing slight signs of heat/light stress. It gradually worsened as I worked and worked to try to fix it. Had my cmh's as high as 4 feet at one point, and my temps dont get any higher than 85 degrees. so I thought maybe my malibu pie and alien rift were just finicky. Now they're to the point that all are showing these signs and become extremely droopy toward the end of the 18 hr light cycle but return to being slightly perky by the time I'm home from work about 5 hours into the light cycle, some are looking pretty nasty. I haven't been scoping them until two nights ago because I had thought that the chances of plants that small being over ridden by mites that quickly when I didn't have them on my last grow were slim to none. So two nights ago I plucked a lower leaf off of one of the worst plants and as soon as I took a look there were several tiny oval shaped cream-ish colored things hanging out right by where all the veins meet, where the mites are said to hangout. I was in disbelief and knew this wasn't good, after about 10 minutes. I tried getting a look with a cheap ass microscope, 80x and 200x, with no luck(junk). When I looked back again with the 60x loupe, I looked pretty diligently and what I had saw 20 minutes prior was mostly gone, then I finally found one more oval shaped light colored speck, much too small to tell what it was, just like all the ones i had just saw prior, and so small that I couldn't tell if it was moving.
So I held onto the last bit of hope lastnight that it's from too high of temps or too strong of light, raised the lights another few inches, over 3 feet at this point, cranked up the a/c and left the door open overnight to try keeping temps as low as possible. This morning, droopy as fuck, again. The temps, about 73 degrees 30 minutes before the lights go out.
So that killed my last bit of hope that it was heat stress.
So at this point I think it's pretty apparent that I have tiny pests that I can not see. After I get off work I'm going to order a 100x loupe and start looking around for best method and product for ridding these.
I'm asking for any tips, pointers, advice, your own personal expeirence dealing with these, if you have ever had them that is, ect. I know a little about them just from the growweedeasy page and some YouTube videos.
I'm specifically curious about using malothion because I've heard that these are so ruthless and also that malothion is some seriously strong stuff. But I also know people talk about malothion being dangerous. On the contrary my dad told me that when we were kids he used it in our house when we had fleas real bad and said that as long as you get out asap after you spray and wear a respirator and let it dry and the place air out, that it's safe. A close relative used this stuff on their plants back in the day and said you wont even see a single insect with several feet of your plants after spraying it, and they never did have any problems with pest throughout their growing days (outdoors), they said the big thing is to use it only during veg, and only once or twice.
So if anyone has opinions on that or suggestions of their own or anything, by all means let's hear it.
Much appreciated
So I held onto the last bit of hope lastnight that it's from too high of temps or too strong of light, raised the lights another few inches, over 3 feet at this point, cranked up the a/c and left the door open overnight to try keeping temps as low as possible. This morning, droopy as fuck, again. The temps, about 73 degrees 30 minutes before the lights go out.
So that killed my last bit of hope that it was heat stress.
So at this point I think it's pretty apparent that I have tiny pests that I can not see. After I get off work I'm going to order a 100x loupe and start looking around for best method and product for ridding these.
I'm asking for any tips, pointers, advice, your own personal expeirence dealing with these, if you have ever had them that is, ect. I know a little about them just from the growweedeasy page and some YouTube videos.
I'm specifically curious about using malothion because I've heard that these are so ruthless and also that malothion is some seriously strong stuff. But I also know people talk about malothion being dangerous. On the contrary my dad told me that when we were kids he used it in our house when we had fleas real bad and said that as long as you get out asap after you spray and wear a respirator and let it dry and the place air out, that it's safe. A close relative used this stuff on their plants back in the day and said you wont even see a single insect with several feet of your plants after spraying it, and they never did have any problems with pest throughout their growing days (outdoors), they said the big thing is to use it only during veg, and only once or twice.
So if anyone has opinions on that or suggestions of their own or anything, by all means let's hear it.
Much appreciated