Well it's not really worth it.

So after this first and only grow I am done. For just the cost in the lights, fan and filter I could have drove into Michigan and got 5 ounces, and each half a different 25% thc or more, for $250-$300 and some good carts.
Living in a state that it isn't legal to grow also make it more difficult the worth it. A medical card covers me carrying the stuff across state lines but doesn't my plants.
So I think ill take up meat curing and fermenting and let the $100 ounces be the ticket.
 

tyler.durden

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After the initial investment of all the growing hardware, you should start getting into the black. I once calculated my growing costs to be $12-15 an ounce, but that was a decade ago, and I now have no idea what the formula was to reach that figure (electricity, media, nutes, etc.) Since it's not legal to grow where you are, you should be able to easily sell the extra that you produce, since there should be a healthy black market. Then again, it may not be worth your risk, I don't know your situation. It's a tough racket here, too - Now that it's rec legal and people can grow their own, I'm working harder than ever for less than half of what I was pulling in just a couple of years ago. If things get much worse, I may throw in the towel, myself. Growing is a commitment, and certainly isn't for everyone...
 

Green Dreamz

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Paranoidandroid42,

Sorry to hear of unhappiness with your indoor grow. I think most people here drive a lot of fun from growing and can grow better and safer product than they can buy including myself. It does involve a lot of effort and time and not for everyone I suppose.

I grow outside in the backyard and it is not legal here but thankful that I am in a secluded enough spot in the city to get away with it. My biggest expense is the seeds, approximately $10 for electricity in April to start them indoors, and for the first time purchased a $10 bag of tomato fertilizer at Wally World which has seen to give them a boost. Besides ending up with a top quality product I experience daily joy taking care of these plants as well as the vegetables.
 

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Chief_Broom

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Indoor grows are tough and the up front costs are high but as was said it’s when you run successive grows is where you start to get that money back.

I’m an outdoor stealth grower in an illegal state. I do outdoors because even though conditions aren’t always ideal (crowded plants, lots of other cover plants) I can still get a few plants to harvest an have enough to last me a year or more.

Indoors you won’t get the potential yields you can get outdoors (unless you’re really good at it) but you can run perpetually. I think if I were going to do an indoor perpetual grow I’d run auto flowers. Never have to mess with the light schedule or worry about light leaks. Start new beans whenever you feel like it (and available space dictates), and know that 90 or so days after you pop a bean you’ll have a harvest.
 

Chief_Broom

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I get the OP’s point. If you can source pot at a price that is comparable to what you’d pay to grow it yourself you can make a pretty strong argument for not bothering with growing. Any grow (but especially outdoor) can have an issue that can end or substantially impact your yield. Nothing worse than putting months in on a grow only to see it all fail due to something beyond your control. I’ve always said my least favorite aspect of growing cannabis is the ridiculous amount of time it takes.
 

curious2garden

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I get the OP’s point. If you can source pot at a price that is comparable to what you’d pay to grow it yourself you can make a pretty strong argument for not bothering with growing. Any grow (but especially outdoor) can have an issue that can end or substantially impact your yield. Nothing worse than putting months in on a grow only to see it all fail due to something beyond your control. I’ve always said my least favorite aspect of growing cannabis is the ridiculous amount of time it takes.
That's the rub for me. How do I know it's not been drenched with a neurotoxin, had mites, or spores or who knows what crazy grow bro science people come up with. So even if I paid more it's worth it to me because I know it's clean.
 

PopAndSonGrows

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You can't expect your first grow to be the banger that turns you into the next Capulator. Cmon man. Stay the course.

Most, if not all of us who went into this with some education, realized it will likely take a couple/few grow cycles to not only get your parameters set, but to start making it "worth it" as far as cost.

If you're just gonna dip out after your first grow, you quite frankly aren't giving it a chance to work in your favor.
 

OldMedUser

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That's the rub for me. How do I know it's not been drenched with a neurotoxin, had mites, or spores or who knows what crazy grow bro science people come up with. So even if I paid more it's worth it to me because I know it's clean.
Exactly. The legal pot they sell here from the tastes I've had from what friends have bought have been dosed with whatever they are legally allowed to use in the pot factories they are grown in. No cure to speak of and nasty after-tastes I sure don't get from my home grown.

If all you want/need is enough to get high on once in a while then growing your own can be more hassle than it's worth for most but when you need meds for yourself and others and really enjoy the process, (except trimming), then it's well worth it.

Like how the tomatoes my wife grows taste so much better than store bought.

:peace:
 

neosapien

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I fucking miss growing with a passion. It was a passion for me. But several years ago I made a difficult decision. With a new, young family and new MMJ and MMS laws in my state, the risk was no longer worth the reward. So I shut it down, gifted my equipment to my friends on the forum here and got my med card. I hope my state expands the MMJ and I can one day grow again. But until then I pay retail.
 

Hiphophippo

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It’s a hobby to me I do save some money actually a good bit of money growing it but at the end of the day I enjoy doing it and that’s all that matters. A lot of people start growing to save money and create a constant supply and over time it develops into a hobby but I treat it like that. I also find like most other things in life it’s good to keep your expectations low for a while while you figure out the kinks and start churning out good bud. Growing dank weed isn’t hard as long as you have the mind and patience to do so.
 

RetiredToker76

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That's the rub for me. How do I know it's not been drenched with a neurotoxin, had mites, or spores or who knows what crazy grow bro science people come up with. So even if I paid more it's worth it to me because I know it's clean.
I worked at a legal medical farm that grew specifically for distillation. I can verify, corporate cannabis CAN be very very ugly. I won't touch the dispensary products in my area anymore and had to rebuild my black market connections after personally experiencing how gross corporate weed can be. Fun sidenote, growing someone elses shitty weed makes your homegrow go to ass when you're too damned tired to take care of your own plants.

I worked at 1 out of the 15 or so grows in the state, but I have little reason to believe that the standards increase at any of the other companies or facilities. Then there's the fact that the plants that we grew at the farm had a farm manager overseeing individual growers who oversaw the general aspects of their assigned rooms. Then there was a team for fertilization, team for de-leafing and training, a team for pest management, and we supposedly had a facilities management cleaning team but I'll be damned if ever saw them. Too many hands of too many people doing too many things and not communicating effectively.

Endless powdery mildew and botrytis, then there were the beneficial bugs we put on everything, which we often killed with chems that we were using to try and control the pests the benificials didn't get, which in turn brought more mold. My state's concepts of standards and corporate regulation are f'n comical and far far lower than my personal standards.

As I interviewed to change from pest control to something else I casually mentioned that I had stopped trusting anyone else to grow my weed, my interviewer replied, "That's smart."

I grow because I love doing it and I don't trust anyone else. Half the people I worked with at the "professional" grow couldn't successfully convert 1 fluid ounce into ml without a calculator and measurement chart. That would have been my first standard for hiring would be understanding how measurements work. Corporate standards are for shit and I begrudgingly accept industrial pharmaceuticals and food products as it is, but I won't eat at a restaurant anymore and I won't smoke corporate weed. Having worked in industrial food-service and corporate weed, I don't trust either of those industries at all anymore.

Corporate cannabis isn't in the business to grow weed, they're in the business to make money. The rich assholes at the top don't give a shiat about quality, all they care is how much they can fleece from the customers while spending smaller and smaller fractions of a penny per plant.
 

tyler.durden

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I worked at a legal medical farm that grew specifically for distillation. I can verify, corporate cannabis CAN be very very ugly. I won't touch the dispensary products in my area anymore and had to rebuild my black market connections after personally experiencing how gross corporate weed can be. Fun sidenote, growing someone elses shitty weed makes your homegrow go to ass when you're too damned tired to take care of your own plants.

I worked at 1 out of the 15 or so grows in the state, but I have little reason to believe that the standards increase at any of the other companies or facilities. Then there's the fact that the plants that we grew at the farm had a farm manager overseeing individual growers who oversaw the general aspects of their assigned rooms. Then there was a team for fertilization, team for de-leafing and training, a team for pest management, and we supposedly had a facilities management cleaning team but I'll be damned if ever saw them. Too many hands of too many people doing too many things and not communicating effectively.

Endless powdery mildew and botrytis, then there were the beneficial bugs we put on everything, which we often killed with chems that we were using to try and control the pests the benificials didn't get, which in turn brought more mold. My state's concepts of standards and corporate regulation are f'n comical and far far lower than my personal standards.

As I interviewed to change from pest control to something else I casually mentioned that I had stopped trusting anyone else to grow my weed, my interviewer replied, "That's smart."

I grow because I love doing it and I don't trust anyone else. Half the people I worked with at the "professional" grow couldn't successfully convert 1 fluid ounce into ml without a calculator and measurement chart. That would have been my first standard for hiring would be understanding how measurements work. Corporate standards are for shit and I begrudgingly accept industrial pharmaceuticals and food products as it is, but I won't eat at a restaurant anymore and I won't smoke corporate weed. Having worked in industrial food-service and corporate weed, I don't trust either of those industries at all anymore.

Corporate cannabis isn't in the business to grow weed, they're in the business to make money. The rich assholes at the top don't give a shiat about quality, all they care is how much they can fleece from the customers while spending smaller and smaller fractions of a penny per plant.
Interesting insight, thanks for sharing. I didn't get into the weed biz to grow, either, but to make money. But my aim was always to grow the healthiest, dankest plants I could... in order to make the most money! Plus, I smoke it myself and sell to friends. There is the responsibility to make sure we all stay healthy. If one is going to put in all that time and effort, may as well do it right...
 

Drop That Sound

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Been paying 40 dollars an ounce lately (good purple runtz) while I start back up and wait on my crops. Then my friends buy one for 80, and I go back and buy 2, and double my stash every week. Cannabis is free now, lol!

Still though, money can't buy the happiness that comes from a good harvest.

It's not worth it anymore when you can legally grow microgreens and make $400 a week per each rack with 20 trays on it. Then go buy a pound. Thats a pound a week for watering brocolli seedlings for 7 days, lol!
 
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