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One more thing Valjack....find out if the windows/glass is polarized or not. If its just tempered then thats okay. Polarized will greatly diminish the light the plant is receiving. Since it isnt getting optimal light as it is, this could be another problem.

There is one thing I have seen on a consistent basis around here.....Cannabis is VERY hardy. Chances are still decent that the plant will finish its life span, but if it is even a female does not mean it will produce anything more than a few popcorn buds. But still, you could end up having a green thumb and make it finish beautiful.

My best advice is to not give up. Worse case scenario you use this as a great chance to learn and gain experience. Good luck

Rezman2115 said:

Ummm.....what week into flowering are you(since going 12/12)? What strain? What is the length of the flowering cycle (8, 10, 12+ weeks)?

Unless you did it during veg. If thats the case, you know ur plant way better than I do.

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First week of flower a stem snapped so I took it to clone and trimmed the bottom as well

And it's a nine week strain

Than I dont know exactly. You could still be good. It just may stunt your "stretch" a little bit. I usually wait, or know others who wait, until the end of the stretch, but it is in no way necessarily optimal. Maybe someone else will have a better answer for ya

Rezman2115 said:

Than I dont know exactly. You could still be good. It just may stunt your "stretch" a little bit. I usually wait, or know others who wait, until the end of the stretch, but it is in no way necessarily optimal. Maybe someone else will have a better answer for ya

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Thanks for the reply rezman.I have a question tho isn't stunting the stretch good when u have a 600 hps or 400 hps this will give u better light Penetration no.

valjack said:

I have added FloraNova "Grow" nutrient to water twice in past few weeks. This nutrient is supposed to be for growing hydroponically but I am using this since I have on hand. Have read that "less is more".
Growing outdoors in a greenhouse so no lights are needed. The picture to the left is a pic of the GH. The windows are glass and the roof is this hard plastic white material that has waves or ridges. So the upper sunlight is muted and not full strength. The windows all slide open and all are screened. There are two upper square windows that open on either end to ensure the flow of air that I keep open all the time. I have no fans inside the GH maybe I should?
Soil is ROOTS ORGANIC.
First off I think I will stop using the SPA down to lower the ph in water. I will try vinegar as I have read. I have white vinegar and BRAGGS "of the mother" apple cider organic vinegar. Which do you think would be better?
It does get really hot in the GH on days. But if the leaves were getting singed from heat and sun wouldn't all of them ? It is only happening to some of them, maybe 4 out of 13.

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If they were all clones from the same mother then I would expect the same tolerances for heat, insects, etc. Unless you're feeding identical clones in hydro from the same reservoir then variations can be expected.

I suspect a nutrient lockout/deficiency due to either a ph imbalance or temp/humidity imbalance, but check out the stickies in the plant problems section before taking any action.

Here's an article on the relationship between temps, humidity, and nutrients:
http://www.theweedblog.com/how-do-marijuana-plants-absorb-water-and-nutrients/

The salts and oxygen in the water put pressure on the roots; the water with the nutrients wants to go inside. This process is further enhanced because the leaves make the water evaporate which causes pressure in the plant. Due to the root pressure, and the suction in the leaves, moisture and nutrients are transported upward through the marijuana plant.

Even if all the right nutrients are present in the water, then a high humidity can reduce the evaporation (suction force) of the leaves. This makes the plant absorb less nutrients. The availability of water, nutrients, and humidity of the marijuana plant determine if a plant gets the right nutrition in the right place.

Temperature can have the same effect. The evaporation of water via the stomata in the leaves also has another function. Evaporation requires heat. If the temperature is too high, the pores may open to evaporate even more water. This can happen if the light is too close to the plant.

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Basically, the more water being transpired through the leaves results in more nutrients being delivered to the plant's extremities, which can result in nutrient burn if the rest of your environment isn't dialed in. The less water being transpired can result in deficiencies and slow growth, but can be useful for short periods of root development.

Unless you're growing identical clones from the same mother I'd expect different tolerances for these conditions. Using pre-mixed, bagged soil can have different effects on identical clones as the nutrients may be unevenly distributed. There are probably a dozen different variables that can contribute to the problems you are seeing. Identifying the problem(s) is a process of elimination. Personally, I'm pretty sure you have a temp/humidity imbalance (looks like a calcium problem but like I said, read up on it before taking any action) but that doesn't mean you don't have a ph issue as well. Process of elimination, but without a controlled environment it will be difficult to narrow it down.

Eloyd said:

Thanks for the reply rezman.I have a question tho isn't stunting the stretch good when u have a 600 hps or 400 hps this will give u better light Penetration no.

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If height is an issue, than yes it could be beneficial. But remember, stunted growth means smaller plant than it could have been. Just make sure to make the most of it all.

As for light penetration, maybe. It all matters where u want the light. One could always install a tomatoe ring and tie (soft ties) the branches around so the inside of her opens up (this is with minimal stress).

And once again, i am not advanced enough to know which kinds of stresses that could cause stunted growth would be beneficial. Especially during flowering.

Rezman2115 said:

If height is an issue, than yes it could be beneficial. But remember, stunted growth means smaller plant than it could have been. Just make sure to make the most of it all.

As for light penetration, maybe. It all matters where u want the light. One could always install a tomatoe ring and tie (soft ties) the branches around so the inside of her opens up (this is with minimal stress).

And once again, i am not advanced enough to know which kinds of stresses that could cause stunted growth would be beneficial. Especially during flowering.

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Thanks one more question rezman a three foot plant in veg can be expected to produce four zips as long as everything else is right correct

Eloyd said:

Thanks one more question rezman a three foot plant in veg can be expected to produce four zips as long as everything else is right correct

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That question is impossible to answer. When you say "everything is right" it can mean an infinite different things. Such as:

Is it Sativa or Indica?
Is it 3 ft tall with a 3 ft diameter? Or is it a christmas tree?
How much stress training did you give?
Does the branches and stem have the necessary strength to support 20+g buds on a single cola (wet) without falling over?
Is the PH perfect?
Is the plant using all the nutes and the soil is clean of salt deposits?
What kind of secondary lighting and/or reflective sheeting is made available?
What kind of CO2 levels (ppm) are available for the plant to store in light cycle to transform into those beautiful carbs during the calvin cycle for bud production?

The list goes on and on. With a 3 ft vegger, be prepared for up to 6-7 ft after the stretch (strain dependent). I do not go off of height, but instead cubic meters. The AVERAGE plant (in my experience) from a 400w HID, correct nute schedule, PH, average CO2 levels (300-400 ppm), indica dominant, 3 months of veg, LST or topping, and .8 cubic meters will produce around 200 grams for a beginner (albeit a beginner that has done their homework).

I know you dont want to hear "too many variables to know" and "dont worry about the yield, just be happy with crossing the finish line", but that is the truth of it. I wish I could be of more help

I do not mean for you to answer the questions. Rather add them to your "grow check list" of things to pay attention to from now on. Thats another piece of advice: CREATE A CHECKLIST!!

Rezman u the man I appreciate the honest reply let me say wow lol that is alot but I'm excited cause now I have check list so thanks again.. And if u tell me how to give + rep I'd be happy to u deserve it thanks again stay green

Garden Knowm...I thought you couldn't tell the sex until you start flowering? I a complete beginner, not knowing much. I do research but some is very confusing. Just found this site.

Pshirley said:

Garden Knowm...I thought you couldn't tell the sex until you start flowering? I a complete beginner, not knowing much. I do research but some is very confusing. Just found this site.

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Yes and no. The plant wont tell its sex until MATURE! This could mean 6 weeks or whatnot in veg, or 4 weeks of veg and 2 weeks into flower. It all depends upon strain and environment/care

Hey riu just wanted to introduce my self signed up a while ago but haven't gotten on here much. I've done a couple journals on another forum but wanna get around and check out other forums and open my options of knowledge to other sites ppl and places. So hope to meet some good ppl and share our knowledge of cannabis and cultivation with each other. Thanks see y'all around and keep it green growers

joegrower619 said:

Hey riu just wanted to introduce my self signed up a while ago but haven't gotten on here much. I've done a couple journals on another forum but wanna get around and check out other forums and open my options of knowledge to other sites ppl and places. So hope to meet some good ppl and share our knowledge of cannabis and cultivation with each other. Thanks see y'all around and keep it green growers

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Welcome back. Stick around this time! lol We need more ppl that is willing to discuss and share constructive advice

Sup dawgs, jk do people really talk that way? Been reading a lot on the forum for a while now, always wanted to give growing a try, other than one of those throw a seed in a party cup under a lightbulb things we all tried in high school... Seems like every question I googled doing my pre setup research brought me to here , so I figured might as well join, I'm using 2 340 w (150w) leds supposedly full spectrum(time will tell) a 24x48x60 appollo tent, 8"exhaust fan, smart pots(knock offs from local hydro store) 3 gal, sensigrow/bloom a+b with some big bud, all ph perfect for coco, also have some cal mag and all the testers, just got my seeds from herbies today! Doing some pineapple chunk plus the freebies of course, wish me luck! Details and questions/problems to follow

Bbcchance said:

Sup dawgs, jk do people really talk that way? Been reading a lot on the forum for a while now, always wanted to give growing a try, other than one of those throw a seed in a party cup under a lightbulb things we all tried in high school... Seems like every question I googled doing my pre setup research brought me to here , so I figured might as well join, I'm using 2 340 w (150w) leds supposedly full spectrum(time will tell) a 24x48x60 appollo tent, 8"exhaust fan, smart pots(knock offs from local hydro store) 3 gal, sensigrow/bloom a+b with some big bud, all ph perfect for coco, also have some cal mag and all the testers, just got my seeds from herbies today! Doing some pineapple chunk plus the freebies of course, wish me luck! Details and questions/problems to follow

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Good luck!

Rezman2115 said:

Good luck!

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Thanks

rollitup said:

welcome aboard harvester, It is a pain in the ass that guest posting was disabled as I know a lot of users like being anon, however you are still anonymouse in which I have disabled all IP logging throughout the site. As well of all access logs being deleted every 6 hrs.

Later on once I am able to setup a donations page or an affialte program I will be able to hire rollitup it's own security expert to come in and make sure all surfing is anon.

I also suggest when surfing cannabis culture or any other hemp related sites to use a proxy server.

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man my first experience on this site was a bust... first time with the whole deal.. i unknowingly asked a question that set someone off... im glad to see people being a lil more nice to the ones who dont know as much... much appreciated!!!

What's up, new to the forum , I have an event and flow indoor setup, I've grown once it the past with minimal success with an indoor grow. I'm doing it better this time with more knowledge and better environmental controls. I've got a couple baby's popping up in a week and a half...I'm still learning and building onto my system. I plan on getting a couple grows under my belt, wish me luck.

I've just ordered some auto candy kush and I'm going to grow it inside, got some miracle gro, the only thing I'm not sure about is how many times I should water it a day and how much. Any help would be appreciated