We should have elected Ron Paul

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul was the only real choice in the last election.
there was a media black out on him and we ended up with this socialist douche bag Obama.

I know there are people out there that will support him no matter what, my guess is that 75 percent of them are questioning their support but just wont admit they fell for it.

The best, most flashy, pop, hollywood campaign in history and we got duped into it.

We want liberty, freedom, and Ron Paul!
 

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TheInnocent

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Nader or Paul, the rest were insiders no matter what their claims.
While I disagree with the OP's statement, I do believe that Ralph Nader and Ron Paul are excellent leaders with ideas that should be brought to the forefront of public debate. Our system of political competition (winner take all) is quite antiquated, IMHO.
 

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
While I disagree with the OP's statement, I do believe that Ralph Nader and Ron Paul are excellent leaders with ideas that should be brought to the forefront of public debate. Our system of political competition (winner take all) is quite antiquated, IMHO.
Thats right.
More should be left to the individual states to decide.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
No Doubt we should have elected Ron Paul.
I thought that went whithout saying. :)
Look around for the Republican leadership.
See any?

Palin really?
Mitt Romney?
Jeb BUSH!?!
Mark Sanford.

Ron Paul 2012!
Legalize the constitution!
 

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
no doubt we should have elected ron paul.
I thought that went whithout saying. :)
look around for the republican leadership.
See any?

Palin really?
Mitt romney?
Jeb bush!?!
Mark sanford.

Ron paul 2012!
Legalize the constitution!
hell yes!!
 

medicineman

New Member
I liked Dennis Kucinich. Paul had too many private enterprise ideas, privatize everything. I think we can readily see what the private sector has done to our economy, They have fucked the baby boomers to tears. People that thought trhey had 2-3 hundred K to retire on or more are now keft with 50-100K, their one time tax free sale of their home in order to move to their retirement community is now worth squat, private investors have been fucked by the greedy wall street assholes and bankers, all private sector assholes. I know some Idiots will try and turn this around by blaming the government, and the government was in effect complicit by not regulating the greedy private sector, But the driving force was unregulated greed. So Paul would even unregulate more and let the private sector run rampant. Not the Ideal scenario. Kucinich was for single payer and less military, my kind of guy. Putting a check on the military industrial complex insanity. Obama, well the jury is still out, I'm watching with a critical eye.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
I liked Dennis Kucinich. Paul had too many private enterprise ideas, privatize everything. I think we can readily see what the private sector has done to our economy, They have fucked the baby boomers to tears. People that thought trhey had 2-3 hundred K to retire on or more are now keft with 50-100K, their one time tax free sale of their home in order to move to their retirement community is now worth squat, private investors have been fucked by the greedy wall street assholes and bankers, all private sector assholes. I know some Idiots will try and turn this around by blaming the government, and the government was in effect complicit by not regulating the greedy private sector, But the driving force was unregulated greed. So Paul would even unregulate more and let the private sector run rampant. Not the Ideal scenario. Kucinich was for single payer and less military, my kind of guy. Putting a check on the military industrial complex insanity. Obama, well the jury is still out, I'm watching with a critical eye.
Every problem you describe here is already regulated and controlled by laws made by us the people. Many times we see they break the law and nothing is done about it. Is that the fault of private enterprise or are our regulators turning a blind eye? I dare say that private enterprise is no more to blame for the wrongs of the past than you yourself are. It is government who has forsaken the people and justice.
 

medicineman

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Every problem you describe here is already regulated and controlled by laws made by us the people. Many times we see they break the law and nothing is done about it. Is that the fault of private enterprise or are our regulators turning a blind eye? I dare say that private enterprise is no more to blame for the wrongs of the past than you yourself are. It is government who has forsaken the people and justice.
Just like Gordan Gheko, the wall street bandits like Bernie Madoff and friends played the government to the tune of a couple a trillion bucks. Had there been adequate enforcement of the regulations, I agree this calamity may have been averted, but the gross greed came from the private sector. Your postulate is that if they don't get caught, then it is alright. In fact greed is pretty uncontrollable, and to controll it you need strict enforced rules, non-partisan rules designed to keep greed at bay. Paul was a deregulator.
 

jfgordon1

Well-Known Member
No one speaks national sovereignty like ron paul. he's the man. too bad the media kept him out of the public eye during elections.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.
 

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.
well said my friend
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Just like Gordan Gheko, the wall street bandits like Bernie Madoff and friends played the government to the tune of a couple a trillion bucks. Had there been adequate enforcement of the regulations, I agree this calamity may have been averted, but the gross greed came from the private sector. Your postulate is that if they don't get caught, then it is alright. In fact greed is pretty uncontrollable, and to controll it you need strict enforced rules, non-partisan rules designed to keep greed at bay. Paul was a deregulator.
I did not postulate anything like that med. Read what I posted again. Greed is part of human nature, you will never be rid of it, the regulators let this happen and they knew it was happening. Government fucked us, not the system. Deregulate it and it will get no worse, the free market works extraordinarily well. Let Govt take control and it will be WORSE. Fraud, theft and Abuse is the name of the gubbermint game, anyone can tell you that.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Honestly Med most of the problems you have with Ron Paul
Would be solved under a Ron Paul presidency.
Most of the Wall Street people would have a hard time inflating bubbles without a fiat currency.
The biggest crooks in the country (world?) in the FED would be out of work.

He was a doctor for Christ Sake,
I would trust him to fix the medical in this country before I would trust a Lawyer.
Espeasialy a socialist Lawyer, geeze.

Ron Paul was the only canidate worth a shit this run.
Hes about the only congress critter worth a shit now.
He will be the only Republican worth a shit in 2012, period.

Save possably Gary? Johnson former NM governor he 'might' work to.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
And another thing Med!!

If everything you say about Ron Paul were true,
don't you think he would have got a little play from all the big finaciers?
Obama got almost a million from Goldmen Sachs.
'Nuff said.
 

The Warlord

Well-Known Member
National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.

Bravo. I agree with all of that!
 

Browntown777

Well-Known Member
I like where you're coming from and would go a bit further.

"more should be left to the individual to decide"
right on man. I am just saying that it should be on the state level.
then our voices would be more easily heard. Thats why those of us in California can smoke legally. We decided, not the federal Gov. Obviously.... damn DEA
 
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