I bet it's the TW !?I start in 4" squares and finish in 12" squares with 3 to 4 transplants in between. I only use square pots and my roots are usually from top to bottom. I shouldn't be crying though because my SB looks great...I'm having trouble with one strain that I've never run before but the rest are groovy.
I'm going to try water only on my next run as I mixed my soil a bit richer...this time I only made tea once and topdressed once so I think I'm getting closer
No I haven't flowered the Trainwreck yet but I already know she's sensitive. It's the Kalashnikova that I have on my screen now....
I go from the aero cloner to solo cups then into 1/2 gallon pots then 1.5 gallon then the final 5-7 gallon bag. I try to up pot before there is spin out.
Oh noNo I haven't flowered the Trainwreck yet but I already know she's sensitive. It's the Kalashnikova that I have on my screen now....
In that pic I have 3 rows of plants. Middle row 1st and 2nd plants are Trainwreck
they were looking beautiful the other day but I know you got this...no worries .
I'm not sweating itOh no
the SB is coming down this weekend and the following weekend I'll probably take down the rest 
Yup I think your vegging too long in your final pot. Transplant wait until the leaves start to stand up and pray. when you start seeing new growth flower it. Rough guess two weeks. 7 gal is perfect. If your growing a sativa try less than 12 hours of light. I run mine at 11 on 13 off that seems to speed things up.
You know what! I phuqued up.... Total veg time from the time they go into the solo cup till they go into the flower room is 70+ days.
I personally think that's too long to veg in your final pot...ever since I switched to square pots I have amazing roots!! They don't just go to the bottom and spin but the fill the container top to bottom. When I harvest I can grab the stump and pull them out perfectly clean!! Same when I flower in the 18 gallon totes...HUGE differenceYou know what! I phuqued up.... Total veg time from the time they go into the solo cup till they go into the flower room is 70+ days.
It is actually around 44 days that they are in the final bag prior to going into the flower room. Still probably to long.....
Do you allow yours to spin out prior to up potting?? The ones that I have let spin out seemed to not have much root mass beyond the original 1.5 gallon pot size. What I mean is after harvest, I dissect the soil to see what the root ball has done. At best, there are fine root hairs every where but no large roots traveling through the soil. The soil can simply fall apart for lack of roots exposing the original 1.5 gallon pot location.
Will running 11 on and 13 off influence indica/sativa mixes?? I am all for 1 less hour of 1200+ watts....
... I have a new outlook on soil and will be making some changes in the near future.I am sorry if I missed it in your thread. What is your method? As in from clone to final pot/tub. How many up pot's and into what sizes?
As soon as My clones have decent roots they go into 3.5" squares I up pot to 5" squares when they tell me they're ready, then to 7" and sometimes I squeeze a 9" in before final transplant to my soil mix in 12" squares. I veg in FFOF right out of the bag. I had been supplementing with teas and Topdressings pretty regularly in flower but have started making my flowering mix richer and have found I don't need to. The problem Im having Is with the Kalashnikova and seems to have started after I gave the one tea I brewed this grow the others are still green and I'm harvesting next weekendI am done reading Teaming with Microbes and my brain has exploded
I think both of you are spot on!! Some strains don't like it and appear to have root issues (Drooping leafs). I went back through my notes and the ones vegged the longest had the most issues. The Blue Magoo and XJ13 are troopers and do not care as they just want to stretch as much as possible (Over feeding is a different subject). The Holy Grail, Platinum Bubba,and the two unknown strains do not like it at all. They show a ton of stress.
I am sorry if I missed it in your thread. What is your method? As in from clone to final pot/tub. How many up pot's and into what sizes?
Smart pots are cool man they automatically airprune your roots. I usually have root spin with plastic pots by the time I transplant I get lazy sometimes. On the other hand you don't want all your soil falling away when you transplant either. A little bit of root spin isn't that bad because you should bust your roots up before you transplant anyway I call it waking up the roots. I pull them out the soil and all comes out like a cork Then I sink my fingers in the bottom and rip the bottom outward. next I cut the sides with a knife and bust them up. I'm really rough on them. If your plant is yellowing at 30 days and you vegged in that same pot for 40 days before flowering. Then thats your problem rite there. So thats 70 days in a five gallon pot. You dont have any food left and your rootbound. Its a real trick to pull off you don't really want your plants growing a bunch of roots and trying to recover from a transplant during flower but you dont want the roots to choke the plant out before it's done either. I've been really burned out lately and neglecting my shit I can show you some root spin. I'll post some pics soon my mother is sick and at the hospital so maybe the day after tomorrow.You know what! I phuqued up.... Total veg time from the time they go into the solo cup till they go into the flower room is 70+ days.
It is actually around 44 days that they are in the final bag prior to going into the flower room. Still probably to long.....
Do you allow yours to spin out prior to up potting?? The ones that I have let spin out seemed to not have much root mass beyond the original 1.5 gallon pot size. What I mean is after harvest, I dissect the soil to see what the root ball has done. At best, there are fine root hairs every where but no large roots traveling through the soil. The soil can simply fall apart for lack of roots exposing the original 1.5 gallon pot location.
Will running 11 on and 13 off influence indica/sativa mixes?? I am all for 1 less hour of 1200+ watts....
I'm buying that book thanks. What kind of soil are you using? I don't think I asked.
Thanks for that info. I need to go see what is happening with that Kalashnikova you have. Is it fading ahead of schedule?
The soil does not fall away during up pot unless I drop one Lol!! There are always roots showing but I try to not let it spin a lot. I also loosen the soil when up potting.... I agree my bags are running out of food but not so much root bound as I check after harvest every time. At least I do not believe they are root bound.
My soil is some Super Soil I made near the beginning of last year. I have used it through many grows without re-amending it due to the high Nitrogen content and burnt tips along with very dark green growth. Last year, prior to purchasing this house, I did not have near the issues I do now. I also had a ceiling height of 55 inches so vegging was not nearly as long as now with the 8 foot ceiling.
This is a great book!
