Water not penetrating soil!

Red4twenty

Red4twenty

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GreenHighlander said:
A drop of sunlight helps. You can also scuff up the surface with your fingers first. Add just a bit of water and let it sit on the surface till absorbed. Then slowly add the rest of the water as the soil drinks it. Also you can water in the top of a rubermaid or some other water catcher and let the pot sit till it absorbs the water.

Cheers :)
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Basically exactly what I done just aggregated the soil a bit and let it sit damp then fed seemed to work but gonna make sure I don’t make the mistake of missing a water again!
 
GreenHighlander

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Red4twenty said:
Basically exactly what I done just aggregated the soil a bit and let it sit damp then fed seemed to work but gonna make sure I don’t make the mistake of missing a water again!
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Ya the key is to not rush the watering when it is too dry. Sometimes it seems painstakingly slow, but will only absorb a little bit at a time. It is still better then over watering .
Cheers :)
 
Red4twenty

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Completely off topic I’m due to switch to 12/12 in the next few days who changes straight to bloom nutes as soon as they switch or so you carry on veg nutes for a week or so I normally straight switch but a lot of people have the opinion that you should carry on with veg nutes as it’s technically still in veg state while stretching was gonna stay on veg nutes this time for a week or so or add light veg nutes with my bloom nutes what do u think?
 
GreenHighlander

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Red4twenty said:
Completely off topic I’m due to switch to 12/12 in the next few days who changes straight to bloom nutes as soon as they switch or so you carry on veg nutes for a week or so I normally straight switch but a lot of people have the opinion that you should carry on with veg nutes as it’s technically still in veg state while stretching was gonna stay on veg nutes this time for a week or so or add light veg nutes with my bloom nutes what do u think?
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I haven't run bottled nutes for years but it is usually advisable to not start on bloom nutes until roughly week 3-4 of flowering. Obviously some strains will wonder outside of that. But that is a good rule of thumb for most strains so you don't gas out on N too early in flowering.

Cheers :)
 
Red4twenty

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GreenHighlander said:
Ya the key is to not rush the watering when it is too dry. Sometimes it seems painstakingly slow, but will only absorb a little bit at a time. It is still better then over watering .
Cheers :)
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Ahh I know took me what seemed a life time today ain’t got a massive amount of height in the room either so was really awkward!
 
Red4twenty

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GreenHighlander said:
I haven't run bottled nutes for years but it is usually advisable to not start on bloom nutes until roughly week 3-4 of flowering. Obviously some strains will wonder outside of that. But that is a good rule of thumb for most strains so you don't gas out on N too early in flowering.

Cheers :)
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Thanks for the reply yea that’s what I’ve been hearing from everyone never had bad results with the straight swap but gonna try like you say this time can never stop improving and obviously makes sense thanks
 
GreenHighlander

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Red4twenty said:
Thanks for the reply yea that’s what I’ve been hearing from everyone never had bad results with the straight swap but gonna try like you say this time can never stop improving and obviously makes sense thanks
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If you are into keeping grow notes. What I use to always do was change one or two plants from the norm and keep track of how it goes. If the change goes good then make it a norm. If not then try something else.
The improving and learning are what I find most enjoyable about growing. The learning never stops.

Cheers :)
 
the rock

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just finished a batch of gorilla bomb and they turned out awesome(first run).Not cured as of yet but for reasons unknown taste more like blueberry than the blueberry that finished alongside(canuk seeds BB). Will be running GBOMB again as the high is good for couchers
 
Red4twenty

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That’s exactly what I been doing this time round messing about with different feed ratios and seeing how the strain is reacting first time I’ve grown gorilla bomb so trying to get to know the strain ended up supercropping most of them topped a few but they seem to be do half a well as the others so just sticking to sc you think you can supercrop to much ? Cause to much stress? Worrying about Them herming or it affecting my yield as I’ve supercropped quite heavy this time round only supercropping in veg I know people go a couple of weeks into flower but I just want to get all my training done before hand so hope the gb ain’t a massive stretcher
 
Red4twenty

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the rock said:
just finished a batch of gorilla bomb and they turned out awesome(first run).Not cured as of yet but for reasons unknown taste more like blueberry than the blueberry that finished alongside(canuk seeds BB). Will be running GBOMB again as the high is good for couchers
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Ahh that’s good to hear been waiting to hear from someone that had run the strain did u do a journal? What’s the yield like per plant how long did u veg etc ?
 
hotrodharley

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Bernie420 said:
Get a stick, small diameter, put a pointy thing on one end, less than a pencil size (shish kabob skewer) aerate the soil (poke a bunch of holes into the soil all the way down) to get a channel for the water to go into instead of sitting on top.
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Even if your medium absorbs water well it's good to aerate your plants. I use bamboo skewers and run them to the bottom multiple times. I do this regularly and it pays off.
 
DancesWithWeeds

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GreenHighlander said:
A drop of sunlight helps.
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Sunlight? Can't wait for summer and my first outside grow. This indoor stuff always did seem like a lot of trouble. Still, it has it's place.

Red4twenty said:
All depends how solid your root ball is
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After several plants I'm still seeing a 5 gal root from a 7 gal pot. The roots were always fairly loose. That looks to me like the water isn't distributing the moisture.

I have 6 plants in flower right now. About 4 weeks. This grow was considered right from the first to be an experimental grow with hopefully have a little smoke. Since this was an experiment there's no point of stopping here. I'll try each method, or combo, on one of these six plants. In a few days or a week I'll post the results of a side-by-side. My guess right now is that all work at least a little.
 
GreenHighlander

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DancesWithWeeds said:
Lmao. I was wondering what part of the world you were in. Certainly not Okla. Glad you said something. I was going to use Dawn.

I'll start my tests in the morning after I get everything together. One plant gets Sunshine.:)
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lol I am in Canada. I cannot comment on dawn lol I can say the dish soap isn't really needed as long as you scuff up the top layer and take your time watering.
I also should mention everything I am saying is in regards to a spagnum medium. I currently use this as my base https://www.pthorticulture.com/en/products/pro-mix-mp-mycorrhizae-organik/

Cheers :)
 
DancesWithWeeds

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GreenHighlander said:
scuff up the top layer
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I do that but also make a small trench with my fingers about 1/3 the way from the side to the plant. This whole thing with fabric seems to be comparable to AC in a house. If you can maintain a constant temperature around the inside parameter it keeps the room constant. These bags seem to dry out to much to quickly. I think if the sides are kept at the right moisture it would even out the the rest of the soil. The drip system should work here. Just a little to keep it from drying. Add a little aloe to that and poke a few holes. Man, that sound pretty good to me.
 
GreenHighlander

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DancesWithWeeds said:
I do that but also make a small trench with my fingers about 1/3 the way from the side to the plant. This whole thing with fabric seems to be comparable to AC in a house. If you can maintain a constant temperature around the inside parameter it keeps the room constant. These bags seem to dry out to much to quickly. I think if the sides are kept at the right moisture it would even out the the rest of the soil. The drip system should work here. Just a little to keep it from drying. Add a little aloe to that and poke a few holes. Man, that sound pretty good to me.
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Thats why I like fabric. I have no shortage of water and the more wet dry cycles the better. Not to mention there is zero threat of becoming rootbound thanks to air pruning.
There is no reason a drip won't work. They are a fantastic addition once dialed in.

Cheers :)
 
DancesWithWeeds

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bird mcbride said:
The trick to it is...don't grow in soil
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I took a late retirement over 15 years ago and have only around 7 or 8 acres left so I guess that makes me a "gentleman farmer" now. I like things grown in soil with what they now call organic. We used to just call it natural. I would almost swear that I can tell the difference. There is a chemical taste the regular users of it wouldn't notice that comes thru.
 
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