Warning---mobydick--ghsc

shawn705 · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Hello guys and gals.

I smoke weed from time to time, mainly on weekends!! I have done this for many years now, so im no novice!!

A good friend of mine kindly gave me some Modydick from Green House Seed Company!! It had only been curing for about 3 weeks. I was happy to try it out! And let me tell you that the hit was instant, from a blunt i rolled. The high was very uplifting at first almost like coming up on speed (really)! As the high developed i could feel my heart racing, this went on for at least 2 hours, then stopped for a while and came back again.. this happened for hours and hours, until i could feel my heart was sore and kinda ached, I know it sounds weird but it totally true. This made me feel paranoid and i really thought i was going to get a heart attack.. Scary!! I also felt really tired but there was no chance of me getting any sleep, as my mind was racing just as fast as my heart. Now i have taken mdma and speed in my younger years, and let me tell you that this strain has the characteristics of them for sure. Certainly not what i would expect from a marijuana joint.

Im telling you all this because I feel this strain is dangerous stuff, a result of cross breeding genetics to promote a more THCV effect. This sort of breeding will never allow the legalization of marijuana (which im all for), Because as we all know that the ongoing testing by the governments are portraying the ever rising THC levels of commercial marijuana. This as a result leads to the implementation of grading marijuana as an illegal substance. Surely the breeders should understand this, as we all want the same thing at the end of the day. "Think about it guys".

Let me close by saying that, be very careful in what strain you choose to grow or try, as it may very well be your last one. Remember the higher the THC, then the higher your chances of getting a mental illness later in life (everyday tokers)

My thoughts and experiences, thanks for reading, any comments welcome..

Smoke responsibly!

King Cobra.

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Sativied · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
May be better for your lungs..but not for your brain.

Besides that is scientifically nonsense, you are missing my point completely. The amount of THC I daily feed my brain (for the past decades) does not increase when the THC % in the weed I smoke does, I just smoke less, which is healthier in every way. You'll figure that out once you've built up some tolerance and are no longer a lightweight.

King Cobra said:
Daily smokers---it is scientifically proven that marijuana with a higher CBD does not lead to psychosis later in life--Remember you heard on roolitup first...

Please oh wise man, tell us more...

Bigby · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
it is scientifically proven that marijuana with a higher CBD does not lead to psychosis later in life

this is our genetic make up.

Please. Careful now with your wording.

I feel you may have good intentions with this thread. But in your quest to defend yourself you are displaying (to me at least) some major naivete.

Firstly, there is no Science. There are sciences and methodologies. Results are always interpretations, some are more statistically grounded and valid in that way, some more qualitatively rich and valid in that way.

Secondly, more specifically related to this issue. The way you word your point is confusing. No cannabis causes psychosis - no science, no methodologies can prove otherwise. Nothing even comes close (or if some piece of research does, an equally compelling piece of counter research can be produced to argue the opposite). Therefore your point (at least my interpretation of your confusing possible grammatical typo) that the anti psychotic properties of CBD would mitigate against an adult first manifestation of psychotic illness is not only completely unsupportable but shows an extrapolation based upon an unsubstantiated myth masquerading as a fact - if cannabis can't be proved to cause psychosis it cannot mitigate against causing psychosis! If it is your belief then fine, but do not suggest to others that your beliefs are scientific.

CBD may be of value in treating those with psychotic illness. This is new thinking. In the past the opposite was put out as misinformation - by whomever is unimportant - that cannabis in fact caused psychosis. To suggest we should ban, and rally against (I won't use 'fight', it'll be 'war' next) high THC strains with low CBD content, as they are of no value in treating people with psychosis, neglects further research which suggests that those strains, in extremely high doses, actually lead to the creation of new brain cells and neural connections. Just as those with psychotic illnesses should be allowed access to CBD medication, and helped to avoid high THC strains except under safe supervised circumstances - those without psychotic illnesses, but with the philosophical, possibly psychological qualification to test these new findings should be allowed to do so; as it is within these disciplines that there lies hope that the conditions you allude to being naturally being part of our make-up can be shown to be no such thing.

In case you need some clarification - I believe in nurture over nature. I also am not psychotic and am trying to change the world for those who suffer from mental health problems (never call it illness). :peace:

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

Shawn705..nice pic of the kaia kush from GHSC... Do yourself a favour bro...and go and get stoned for the rest of your life...ohh you will be....aha ha ha ha habaabaaaabaahahaahaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha blah ha...NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!
Sativied you seem like a nice person...so i will not be rude!! But it's the same scientist's that created the word THC that are the one's who are doing these tests, not me! Im just an old hippy stoner!

shawn705 · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Shawn705..nice pic of the kaia kush from GHSC... Do yourself a favour bro...and go and get stoned for the rest of your life...ohh you will be....aha ha ha ha habaabaaaabaahahaahaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha blah ha...NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!
Sativied you seem like a nice person...so i will not be rude!! But it's the same scientist's that created the word THC that are the one's who are doing these tests, not me! Im just an old hippy stoner!

dude your honestly slow lol you make no sence, i smoke greenhouse seeds gear all day long with no issues, i know people who been smoking ghs herbs for 15 years and they aint crazy or psycho? lol your just high and think u know what ur saying but are making yourself look dumb, if i were you id'e quit arguing with a majority of people who are far more insightful on the subject you are trying to interpret. funny thing is you say "go get stoned for the rest of your life...ohh you will be" well i work on heavy equipment for a living, Heavy duty mechanic. i am trusted to assemble machine's that people need to work or excavate and do it safely, i dont get high before i work and i do my job great, never had an issue ever.. "knock on wood" and from what i gather your trying to say that greenhouse and there ways of breeding fucks the thc and makes ppl crazy later on in life??? i think u watched 1 too many episode's of DRUGS INC on nat geo..... lmao i function just fine when im not getting high, and do not suffer from side affects or withdrawls. you really shouldnt make yourself look so naive but if your an "old hippy stoner" than you cant teach an old dog new tricks and your clearly one minded and easily brainwashed by tv and "scientist" lol maybe you should just smoke m39 ruderalis? that way u wont trip out? lol

Sativied · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Sativied you seem like a nice person...

Ssshhh, there goes my reputation... what gave me away :lol:

King Cobra said:
But it's the same scientist's that created the word THC that are the one's who are doing these tests, not me! Im just an old hippy stoner!

Oh I wasn't even disputing it 'all' per se, but you have to realize this a is a huge forum with many people that are well-informed. How old exactly is the stuff you have been reading? THC is from 1965-ish. Tests are still done daily across the world very much for reasons Bigby explained. If you want to make statements like that at least include a somewhat reputable source.

shawn705 · Apr 12, 2013

Sativied said:
Ssshhh, there goes my reputation... what gave me away

Oh I wasn't even disputing it per se, but you have to realize this a is a huge forum with many people that are well-informed. How old exactly is the stuff you have been reading? THC is from 1965-ish. Tests are still done daily across the world very much for reasons Bigby explained. If you want to make statements like that at least include a somewhat reputable source.

exacly.. lol

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

Bigby said:
Please. Careful now with your wording.

I feel you may have good intentions with this thread. But in your quest to defend yourself you are displaying (to me at least) some major naivete.

Firstly, there is no Science. There are sciences and methodologies. Results are always interpretations, some are more statistically grounded and valid in that way, some more qualitatively rich and valid in that way.

Secondly, more specifically related to this issue. The way you word your point is confusing. No cannabis causes psychosis - no science, no methodologies can prove otherwise. Nothing even comes close (or if some piece of research does, an equally compelling piece of counter research can be produced to argue the opposite). Therefore your point (at least my interpretation of your confusing possible grammatical typo) that the anti psychotic properties of CBD would mitigate against an adult first manifestation of psychotic illness is not only completely unsupportable but shows an extrapolation based upon an unsubstantiated myth masquerading as a fact - if cannabis can't be proved to cause psychosis it cannot mitigate against causing psychosis! If it is your belief then fine, but do not suggest to others that your beliefs are scientific.

CBD may be of value in treating those with psychotic illness. This is new thinking. In the past the opposite was put out as misinformation - by whomever is unimportant - that cannabis in fact caused psychosis. To suggest we should ban, and rally against (I won't use 'fight', it'll be 'war' next) high THC strains with low CBD content, as they are of no value in treating people with psychosis, neglects further research which suggests that those strains, in extremely high doses, actually lead to the creation of new brain cells and neural connections. Just as those with psychotic illnesses should be allowed access to CBD medication, and helped to avoid high THC strains except under safe supervised circumstances - those without psychotic illnesses, but with the philosophical, possibly psychological qualification to test these new findings should be allowed to do so; as it is within these disciplines that there lies hope that the conditions you allude to being naturally being part of our make-up can be shown to be no such thing.

In case you need some clarification - I believe in nurture over nature. I also am not psychotic and am trying to change the world for those who suffer from mental health problems (never call it illness).

Cannabis is already in our genetic makeup. This herb merely turns on the correct receptors in our brain's. This is true, is it not.!! It has not been proven that MJ causes psychosis, but it also has not been proven that it does not cause it!! Our brain's create new brain cells continually through out our life...do you really want them new cells to be cannabis cells!! In fact our whole body creates new cells continually, without any cannabis influence.

Sorry if i offended anybody with a mental health problem!! But ive been around enough people to know what's really going on. Take what you like from what i've wrote, and i know you will always defend the good old MJ, AS WILL I, to an extent!! But I feel i need to tell people of my thoughts and experiences over my lifetime with MJ. I am off to have a nice joint now and a glass of wine, bye for now, and love to you all.

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

shawn705 said:
dude your honestly slow lol you make no sence, i smoke greenhouse seeds gear all day long with no issues, i know people who been smoking ghs herbs for 15 years and they aint crazy or psycho? lol your just high and think u know what ur saying but are making yourself look dumb, if i were you id'e quit arguing with a majority of people who are far more insightful on the subject you are trying to interpret. funny thing is you say "go get stoned for the rest of your life...ohh you will be" well i work on heavy equipment for a living, Heavy duty mechanic. i am trusted to assemble machine's that people need to work or excavate and do it safely, i dont get high before i work and i do my job great, never had an issue ever.. "knock on wood" and from what i gather your trying to say that greenhouse and there ways of breeding fucks the thc and makes ppl crazy later on in life??? i think u watched 1 too many episode's of DRUGS INC on nat geo..... lmao i function just fine when im not getting high, and do not suffer from side affects or withdrawls. you really shouldnt make yourself look so naive but if your an "old hippy stoner" than you cant teach an old dog new tricks and your clearly one minded and easily brainwashed by tv and "scientist" lol maybe you should just smoke m39 ruderalis? that way u wont trip out? lol

All i smoke is GHSC stuff relax your very ignorant!! for a cannabis smoker!

You would know this if you had been able to read all of the post's.

kushhound187 · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Hello guys and gals.

I smoke weed from time to time, mainly on weekends!! I have done this for many years now, so im no novice!!

A good friend of mine kindly gave me some Modydick from Green House Seed Company!! It had only been curing for about 3 weeks. I was happy to try it out! And let me tell you that the hit was instant, from a blunt i rolled. The high was very uplifting at first almost like coming up on speed (really)! As the high developed i could feel my heart racing, this went on for at least 2 hours, then stopped for a while and came back again.. this happened for hours and hours, until i could feel my heart was sore and kinda ached, I know it sounds weird but it totally true. This made me feel paranoid and i really thought i was going to get a heart attack.. Scary!! I also felt really tired but there was no chance of me getting any sleep, as my mind was racing just as fast as my heart. Now i have taken mdma and speed in my younger years, and let me tell you that this strain has the characteristics of them for sure. Certainly not what i would expect from a marijuana joint.

Im telling you all this because I feel this strain is dangerous stuff, a result of cross breeding genetics to promote a more THCV effect. This sort of breeding will never allow the legalization of marijuana (which im all for), Because as we all know that the ongoing testing by the governments are portraying the ever rising THC levels of commercial marijuana. This as a result leads to the implementation of grading marijuana as an illegal substance. Surely the breeders should understand this, as we all want the same thing at the end of the day. "Think about it guys".

Let me close by saying that, be very careful in what strain you choose to grow or try, as it may very well be your last one. Remember the higher the THC, then the higher your chances of getting a mental illness later in life (everyday tokers)

My thoughts and experiences, thanks for reading, any comments welcome..

Smoke responsibly!

King Cobra.

first of all, thcv is not the cause of your paranoia. you smoked more of a potent weed than yoir body can handle. or you had a bad reaction to a strain. haze makes me feel wierd. not all, but nevilles does.

the only other options was you were either smoking crack or ice before you lit up. it wouldnt surprise me if you were, and left that part out. Allthough i wouldnt blame you if the bud was dusted without your kbowledge.

the ONLY TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD OF SUCH A REACTION IS FROM HARD DRUGS, BEING USED TO LACE THE PRODUCT.

and fwi, weekend smoker means you dont have a high thc tollerance. Let me tell you, if i dont get high for 3 days and have one hit of the dank, i get fucking lit up. we are talking giggles, cooking wierd shit, the whole 9 yards. fucking buck wild. i get so stupid i cant handle myself for about 20 mins after i light it.

i have grown moby, and that isint some joke shit. i get fucking twisted off that shit. All greenhouse gear properly grown/loved, flushed, dried and cured properly is some serious shit. i get some fucking dank off those trees.

i havent been without reefer for more than 3 days in more than 2 years. but last time i was deprived for 2 weeks (was in comunist country, weed laws verry harsh) and when i came home, i smoked an entire blunt to my head. i was fucked out of my mind. and guess what it was, greenhouse. greenhouse white shark. and it put me into a 16 hour coma style sleep. i slept thre some asshole playing music at full volume at thier housparty next door(used to live in a major city).

and thats no joke bro. greenhouse aint dangerous, but your dosing method is. be careful with the chronic. Normal bud is ok, but dont fuck around with dank shit or it will TWIST YOUR SHIT UP.

sunni · Apr 12, 2013

You had an anxiety attack plain n simple thats all. it happens with some strains more than others. there shouldnt even be this much bickering about it it was an anxiety/panic attack guys lol

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

kushhound187 said:
first of all, thcv is not the cause of your paranoia. you smoked more of a potent weed than yoir body can handle. or you had a bad reaction to a strain. haze makes me feel wierd. not all, but nevilles does.

the only other options was you were either smoking crack or ice before you lit up. it wouldnt surprise me if you were, and left that part out. Allthough i wouldnt blame you if the bud was dusted without your kbowledge.

the ONLY TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD OF SUCH A REACTION IS FROM HARD DRUGS, BEING USED TO LACE THE PRODUCT.

and fwi, weekend smoker means you dont have a high thc tollerance. Let me tell you, if i dont get high for 3 days and have one hit of the dank, i get fucking lit up. we are talking giggles, cooking wierd shit, the whole 9 yards. fucking buck wild. i get so stupid i cant handle myself for about 20 mins after i light it.

i have grown moby, and that isint some joke shit. i get fucking twisted off that shit. All greenhouse gear properly grown/loved, flushed, dried and cured properly is some serious shit. i get some fucking dank off those trees.

i havent been without reefer for more than 3 days in more than 2 years. but last time i was deprived for 2 weeks (was in comunist country, weed laws verry harsh) and when i came home, i smoked an entire blunt to my head. i was fucked out of my mind. and guess what it was, greenhouse. greenhouse white shark. and it put me into a 16 hour coma style sleep. i slept thre some asshole playing music at full volume at thier housparty next door(used to live in a major city).

and thats no joke bro. greenhouse aint dangerous, but your dosing method is. be careful with the chronic. Normal bud is ok, but dont fuck around with dank shit or it will TWIST YOUR SHIT UP.

Hmm! your either really stoned of you dont read posts like normal folk!! Firstly I have very good friends that give me my weed and they grow good weed. Ice crack what ever your on about?? does not even enter into the equation. Please read the posts properly before you go on ranting about hard drugs. This is a respectable growing forum!!

Now getting back to the subject!! I know my strains, that was my experience. I like GHSC and I would never say a bad word about them.

kushhound187 · Apr 12, 2013

Dale Earnhardt said:
I had lightweight smoke a real good pheno of my chernobyl and he went to the ER for a panic attack.

Now that you mention it, someone once accused me of dusting a bag, he smoked like a gram to his head and just fucking geeked. the ambulance came and they took him to a insane asylum for 3 days, in a strait jacket. i thought he was jokeing so i laughed and he GEEKED OUT. i mean like ive never had a 5 ft 5 kid actually yell in my face, im 6 ft and weigh 200 lbs. he was 100 % convinced that my shit was loaded. i. felt kinda bad but i still laugh about it. i havent seen that little dink inabout 4 years. he held that shit against me forever. he still tells people who know me i "sold him dirty buds", as he puts it. thats ok, erryone other than him whos done buisness with me cant wait until i crop again, as thier customers buy errything hes got, as soon as words out that its mine. word travels fast in rural comunitys, people who normally buy a zip pull together errything they got so they can buy a qp. Im sure all those people wouldnt buy that shit like that if it was dirty. My shit has a excellent local rep. Its a well known local organic, only ever available locally. as i refuse to deal with gangs or other large scale criminals, (as they conduct themselves in a violent manner i dont condone) it never travels far. the local hippies love my shit, and the guy i unload to says hes got people driving a hour + to meet him. that sounds like some dangerous shit tho. lol

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

sunni said:
You had an anxiety attack plain n simple thats all. it happens with some strains more than others. there shouldnt even be this much bickering about it it was an anxiety/panic attack guys lol

Hi Sunni. One would think so! Yet the reviews say that anxiety is quite low from this strain. Anyway it may have been, and it is a very strong strain. But i do stand by what i have posted today.

sunni · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Hi Sunni. One would think so! Yet the reviews say that anxiety is quite low from this strain. Anyway it may have been, and it is a very strong strain. But i do stand by what i have posted today.

well everyone reacts differently, i suffer from extreme anxiety and agoraphobia, even through some strains are low for attacks i still get em, its hit or miss, anxiety is a really fucked up problem, and everyone reacts differently.

kushhound187 · Apr 12, 2013

King Cobra said:
Hmm! your either really stoned of you dont read posts like normal folk!! Firstly I have very good friends that give me my weed and they grow good weed. Ice crack what ever your on about?? does not even enter into the equation. Please read the posts properly before you go on ranting about hard drugs. This is a respectable growing forum!!

Now getting back to the subject!! I know my strains, that was my experience. I like GHSC and I would never say a bad word about them.

I was merely joking around about hard drugs. for real thats the only thing i know for sure would cause that reaction. i wasnt there so i dont know. but that bost just looks silly at first look. maybe i was to quick to judge. The dude who tripped on my shit, i wasnt there, so i have no idea what happened before the incident.

understand something tho, i lived in vancouver for a year and seen first hand what hard drugs do. I blame that shit for alot. if you ever seen hastings tho, you would undertand. i wasnt jumping down anyones throat. just wantet to state my opinion. And if i came off mean, well shit im sorry. sometimes we come off harder than we mean to be. my real point is, greenhouse isnt dangerous.

and if yer agreenhouse fan, whattareyadoin? i never seen yer support on the greenhouse tgread of mibe. i love greenhouse to. so does shawn. he may ocasianlly be overzealous in thier defence(sometimes i am too), we just really like their products and get shit on allllllll day for it. we get a little grouchy errytime the greenhouse slander comes out cause ww get called newbies( i have about 10 years of solid growing) and come under many personal attacks. peace and respect. lets all stay relaxed and chill thee fuck out ladies and gents.

King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

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King Cobra · Apr 12, 2013

sunni said:
well everyone reacts differently, i suffer from extreme anxiety and agoraphobia, even through some strains are low for attacks i still get em, its hit or miss, anxiety is a really fucked up problem, and everyone reacts differently.

I hear you Sunni, i get anxiety too for sure.!! But this seemed different to the norm. But you may be correct, it could have been the strain and the affect it had on me, as i never had that strain before. What strain would you recommend that's good for anxiety.

Sativied · Apr 12, 2013

kushhound187 said:
and if yer agreenhouse fan, whattareyadoin? i never seen yer support on the greenhouse tgread of mibe.

What? Be ye sayin' thar be a "support" thread fer Green Herma Seeds? Be that why swabbies still buy the'r souveniers...

brodietheconeking · Apr 12, 2013

part time....you only get the true stoner mentality from smoking everyday...your like neo in matrix 1....getting a little bit of the freedom on a weekend..babylon still has your mind...set that shit free i feel sorry for it..poor things getting tortured

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