Want to Know If Your Plants are Finished?

jphebbie2

Active Member
Hey guys,
Im comming up on my 4th harvest and I am having some trouble. 2 of my 6 girls that all started flower at the same time seem to be finishing up early. All of the hairs have turned brown and the trichs are cloudy starting to turn amber. They are swollen and look like my previous harvests on chop day. They are in FFOF soil with their full nute line including soluables. 6 weeks just seems to fast to me though. It might be worth mentioning that these 2 girls were also the most tempermental with feeding and what not. They showed deficiencies just as fast as they showed nute burn. Could this be linked to stress?? The other 4 seem to be right on track with a 8 week harvest. They all came from the same mother. The strain is pappaya which is a Indica Sativa blend heavier on the sativa. there are more details in my journal which there is a link to in my sig if you guys need more info. The first pic is what the 4 more normal girls look like, and the last 3 are of the 2 girls in question.

Thanks
JP-
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dajosh42069

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,
Im comming up on my 4th harvest and I am having some trouble. 2 of my 6 girls that all started flower at the same time seem to be finishing up early. All of the hairs have turned brown and the trichs are cloudy starting to turn amber. They are swollen and look like my previous harvests on chop day. They are in FFOF soil with their full nute line including soluables. 6 weeks just seems to fast to me though. It might be worth mentioning that these 2 girls were also the most tempermental with feeding and what not. They showed deficiencies just as fast as they showed nute burn. Could this be linked to stress?? The other 4 seem to be right on track with a 8 week harvest. They all came from the same mother. The strain is pappaya which is a Indica Sativa blend heavier on the sativa. there are more details in my journal which there is a link to in my sig if you guys need more info. The first pic is what the 4 more normal girls look like, and the last 3 are of the 2 girls in question.

Thanks
JP-
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Kind of a tough one, you may need to harvest some buds as they become ready.
Pic 1 doesn't look ready.
Pic 2 looks very ripe and ready to come off.
Pic 3 looks ripe, ready and delicious I might add
And Pic 4 looks funny, since the bottom looks ready, but the top is still covered in white hairs...
The only real way to know is to look at the trichs, if your seeing amber, and they're turning, then THAT bud is ready to come off, you can harvest a few buds at a time no problem.
I'd say if your able to see the trichromes (which i'm guessing you are) and they've begun to turn amber on some, harvest those, leave the others on to ripen some more, and take them when they're ready. Buds left on the branches long after FULLY ripening run the risk of going hermie. (or at least I read somewhere, I can't back that up with data or anything)

But they look awesome, great job! And good smoking!
 

dajosh42069

Well-Known Member
Thanks for looking I really apriciate all you do on this awesome site.
Here are a few close ups.
How do they look on day 60?

Amazing cola's bro! Tell me, are you able to see the trichs? Do you have a loop? Or a "Close-Up" setting on your camera? I have a 12MP camera and with my close up setting, I get a pic as close as possible (which is what you should be showing us here). And if you take that pic (on the camera or on your computer) and zoom in on the sugar leaves, and buds, you should clearly see the trichromes. Your looking for Clear/Cloud/Amber. Now everyone has their OWN OPINION on what the best percentages are when it comes to ratio's between the 3. But what I've usually heard and have gone with is 35% Clear/ 50% Cloudy/ 15% Amber. Or anything in that vicinity of numbers. Whatever percentages and ratio's you choose to go with really depends more on the type of high you like. My understanding of it is bud harvested earlier (anywhere between 1-10%ISH amber trichs), it will give you more of the sativa kind of effect, more of an "up high", compared to waiting and harvesting later (when you have a higher percentage of amber trichs, 10-20%ish +) gives you more of a "down high" as Indica does.

If you are UNABLE to see the trichs, then you will have to go by the hairs. My judgment of the hairs is this;
Pic 1 - Both plants on the left look ready. The one on the right looks like it could use another couple days, But it may also just be the picture. Kinda hard to tell.
Pic 2 - Plant on left looks ready, plants on right and in middle are hard for me to see, id rather not give you misleading advice based on a bad camera angle, I feel the same about Pic 1 on the R.
Pic 3 - Not a good close-up at all, but from what I can SEE, they look ready. But again, I can't see them well AT ALL, so I wouldn't chop em based on my ok.

I would see about getting a better picture(s), pointing out which picture is of what plant, and checking out those trichs. Pretty much ANY hydro shop is gonna have a "Jewelers Loop" type microscope to check out trichs.

Anyway, Good luck, Good harvest, and good smoke to you brutha!
 

jphebbie2

Active Member
Kind of a tough one, you may need to harvest some buds as they become ready.
Pic 1 doesn't look ready.
Pic 2 looks very ripe and ready to come off.
Pic 3 looks ripe, ready and delicious I might add
And Pic 4 looks funny, since the bottom looks ready, but the top is still covered in white hairs...
The only real way to know is to look at the trichs, if your seeing amber, and they're turning, then THAT bud is ready to come off, you can harvest a few buds at a time no problem.
I'd say if your able to see the trichromes (which i'm guessing you are) and they've begun to turn amber on some, harvest those, leave the others on to ripen some more, and take them when they're ready. Buds left on the branches long after FULLY ripening run the risk of going hermie. (or at least I read somewhere, I can't back that up with data or anything)

But they look awesome, great job! And good smoking!
thanks for the reply dajosh,
I was thinking about harvesting a little at a time, but I feel like I could risk hermieing the lower half if I chop off the top half thats ready??? i have nothing to base this on, just gut feel..as i have never had a hermie knock on wood.. Could this be an issue?? Just out of curiosity, What would cause the 2 girls to ripen up so much quicker than the other 4? unstable genetics? It just seems odd to me that the same mother could produce such a variance among her children.. Ill probably give them a few more days to dry out and then chop, also because Im being bent over by my final exams ATM but when its over i'll have a nice stinky reward!
Cheers,
JP
 

The Yorkshireman

Well-Known Member
Beautiful.
Can't see the very top so well. But I guess 1 week until choppy choppy time?
Well that photo was taken a few hours before my post and I had just checked the trichs,for peak production it will be about a week (Sensi Seeds Skunk #1,making it bang on 8 weeks 12/12) but but the packet says 2.
In a week they'll be about 10% creamy 20% clear 70% cloudy with fully finished buds.
Perfect!
 
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