VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

Hey VV I can't wait to watch this grow progress it should help solidify some of the advice you've been giving me

Hey 1 question, have you used that superthrive stuff before? Did you notice anything? I saw some at the store and I almost got it. If I get some how would you recomend I use it?

thaman420 said:

Hey 1 question, have you used that superthrive stuff before? Did you notice anything? I saw some at the store and I almost got it. If I get some how would you recomend I use it?

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Welcome, I think. Although Tha' man doesn't usually come to the grow. This is the first time using the Super Thrive, I have recommended it to others. I had a conversation with Maggie at the hydro shop about it one day. She said that if anything can save a sick plant then Super Thrive will. She uses a drop per gallon for all of her flower plants and herbs.
The manufacturer has listed the uses and doses on the back of the bottle, I just follow that. VV

You're doing a fine job. Keep it up ^_^

Some tasty genetics you got there.

I have made a change. Now the computer that was in our bedroom is in my workshop so I can post pictures out here. Soo...guess I should. The temp and humidity levels have been within range. This blueberry plant has burnt leave tips or at least it appears that way. We will be keeping a close watch on it. It is forming it's next two sets of leaves, it may be alright. All 4 of the blueberries are smaller than the other two varieties, don't know if it will stay that way or not, and here they all are. The next pictures are from a few minutes ago, this little lady is the best looking so far. I am going to start setting up the pots to transplant these one final time and put them under the t-5 lights a few days after that. We will hand water them until we are ready to sex them.
This will be the 'a real test' for me, the theory I am following is the opposite of what I had been doing, this is faster growing than I have been doing. I looked back at some pictures of my first big grow. The height comparison with the ones I have flowering now convinced me this will be the right way to go. VV

Another one of our plants is showing some stress,and we will watch it, the blueberry still has the same look on the tips, the rest of the plant looks fine. This first tray has 4 of each variety in it and this one is 1/2 skunkberry, 1/2 nothernberry. After I looked at those two pictures I thought I better group them by variety. The four in the center of the front tray are Blue berry, Ones on the left are SKunkbery and the northern Berry are a little taller which is just what the seed company advertised. And here they are back home. This is the third time watering them with our same additives, So less than $3.00 so far. And this is our total runoff. About right 200ml for two liters. VV

Wow, take one day off with these plants, and they put you to work. I am happy with the results so far. We received the seeds and geminated them on the 25th of Feb, they started popping open and were planted on the 27th and 28th. They have been watered 3 x after the transplant with our five additives. Pretty much two weeks old today and we should think about adding nutes at 1/4 strength, around 300 ppm. We will be adding the Ionic Grow and the Green Fuse Growth Stimulator. They are showing some pretty good growth, first two pictures are from Wed 3/12, next three from today and besides adding nutes we want to check early root development.
Hmmmmm... not to shabby, these pots are 3" by3" by 3 1/2" deep and the roots are at the bottom of the pot...... Here we go on the road again...turn the page.....

very informative VV... nice thread...rep 4 u...

I read the information in Jorge's book about transplanting, he recommend's using an interim size pot. This encourages strong early root development as long as you establish a watering shedule. This is not necessary for some of the hydro systems. I believe it is for flood and drain, drip systems, ebb and flow, run to waste and soil grows. These pots are ideal as far as I am concerned for all but the soil grow. For soil, I would probabaly use a one gallon size interim pot and what a week longer before going to the final 3-3 1/2 gallon size.
Soo I fill the pots about 1/2 full to start with and put a pot the size of my transplant pot in it. Fill it up to about 1" below the top af the pot and then pull out the 'form' leaving the hole. The growing medium is coco-coir rehydrated using ro water.
Hold the pot on the two sides and pull it a little, rotate 90 degrees and do it again. this will lossen your plant from the pot. Now place your fingers around the stem and on top of the soil, turn your hand over and remove the pot. Plant it, Green Side Up, right down the hole, put a little more medium over the top, repeat as necessary, in this case 24 times. Takes less than an hour if you have your medium ready ahead of time.
Now we want to do a couple of more things before we finish. We want to make sure we control algae and we want an easy way to keep track of our plants........up on stage.......turn the page......

These are just cheap foam plates, I think 10", the 8" are to small and these are to big. Its a little heavy handed, using a fostner bit to drill foam, it works. Then we play paper dolls, make a spot for the stem and write the relevant information, DOB, Variety and transplant date. Costs less than $5.00 for 125.
Tune in later for the finish....VV

There are a couple things we want to accomplish with these plants tommorrow. We are going to buy some sand to fill up the other inch at the top of the pot. This is an experiment to see if this will control fungus gnats, they really like coco.
And we will try to establish a watering schedule for the finish size pots. Until someone comes up with a better idea we will be top watering these plants. Because I had reconstituted the medium ahead of time it will probably not require need anymore than 3 basting to get run off so we will start out making 3 liters of our solution with the two additional items. The Ionic Grow has Humic acids in it and we will start with that at 300ppm.
Here they are after the transplant. I will have to rotate them under the t-5's then the t-12's four at a time. PLanning on 4-6 weeks in vegging depending on growth. I have the height to let them get 18" to 24" before switching them to flowering, so we will just play it by ear. Enjoy. VV

Been sick the last couple days, I will up date as soon as I can. Here is the new group, these are hempstar/texadaTimeWarp. Had to help this little lady, and here they are today. 11 of 11 so far. VV

VictorVIcious said:

These are just cheap foam plates, I think 10", the 8" are to small and these are to big. Its a little heavy handed, using a fostner bit to drill foam, it works. Then we play paper dolls, make a spot for the stem and write the relevant information, DOB, Variety and transplant date. Costs less than $5.00 for 125.
Tune in later for the finish....VV

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and who says stoners are dumb and arent inventive!!!!!!

very creative, my friend. REP 4 you!

HEY VV. NICE SET UP...REALLY LIKE THE PLATE IDEA,,,IT EVEN REFLECTS,, WHAT WILL DIXIE THINK OF NEXT...LOL GREAT COUNT ON NEWBIES 100% THAT WORKS....ARE THESE FEM.S 4 SURE OR STILL NEEDING SEXING...IM IN SCHOOL AND WATCHING, LISTENING....AND IF YOUR NERV. JUST THINK OF US ALL NAKED....I HEARD IT WORKS FOR PPL ON STAGE.....AS IF U DONT ALREADY....A DEDICATED PORN WATCHER AND PROVIDER...DBB.
ALL....

B. THC R+D said:

HEY VV. NICE SET UP...REALLY LIKE THE PLATE IDEA,,,IT EVEN REFLECTS,, WHAT WILL DIXIE THINK OF NEXT...LOL GREAT COUNT ON NEWBIES 100% THAT WORKS....ARE THESE FEM.S 4 SURE OR STILL NEEDING SEXING...IM IN SCHOOL AND WATCHING, LISTENING....AND IF YOUR NERV. JUST THINK OF US ALL NAKED....I HEARD IT WORKS FOR PPL ON STAGE.....AS IF U DONT ALREADY....A DEDICATED PORN WATCHER AND PROVIDER...DBB.
ALL....

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No these are not feminized, I may want to experiment with making some seeds, there was a post of a way to save pollen I wanted to try anyway as well as Earls thread on presexing around the 8-10th node, I figure thats about 1' height, which would fit right in with my op. I am still trying to learn these things.
And I really got transplant shock this time, I had never had this happen before, I think some of it will have to be chalked up to operator error, it showed up way to quickly to be just transplant stress. Soo.....You can see from these pictures how bad they were, this last one is recovering some.
Being the calm cool collected, old man that I am, I did not panic, my hair is a little thinner. Since this looked more like nute burn than shock I decided to proceed as planned and give them 1/4 strength nutes with the additives mentionded. I wanted to make sure we had runoff of our nute solution from every plant and only needed three liters to accomplish that, as I have stated coco can hold a lot of water.
Talk about naked......strip your on naked city. here we go....just bobbing along, signing a song.....VV

You Are Using Your Same Tried And True..chems??? Or A Little Something Diff. This Run Than The Rest/last...everything Same,,but Plant..dbb.

You know how it is, put a the eggs in one basket and then drop the basket ..... I maybe should have put one more round of the one's I know through. Well, its really to late for that now, I have no choice, I burned that bridge 2 months ago, soo....Here they all are I believe this was Wed. Here is a shot of all of them and the clone stand in the back ground, you can see some recovery, and this third shot shows the leaves that are or will be dead and new Green growth, a reason for hope. These two still have a way to go, these leaves at the bottom will die as well.
This picture of the four BlueBerry Plants looks bad, that is better than they looked 3 days ago, and I think they may make it. I trimmed the bottom leaves off this one, and will continue to slowly get rid of the dead leaves, don't need to shock them again. I figure I lost a weeks worth of growth and hope that is the end of that carnage. This is how the looked late on Thursday I think. I'll post pictures of thier current condition and a shot of my new toy. VV

Tlc And Patience My Friend, Still Looking Killer, Nice Rack...take That Anyway U Want....they Got U For A Daddy, The'll Make It.....dbb
Slow And Steady Wins The Race,,,,not Faster Than The Bear....faster Than The Slowest Person...hang With Me Yull Never Be Eaten...
Head Up, Chin High!!! Stay The Coarse.......

B. THC R+D said:

You Are Using Your Same Tried And True..chems??? Or A Little Something Diff. This Run Than The Rest/last...everything Same,,but Plant..dbb.

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I am using the same line of nutrients that I started out with, the difference is what I have added. The Ionic Series has grow and bloom, and then they have some boosters, Root, Grow, and Bloom and Boost to be used during flowering. The Fossil Fuel is recommended start to finish and I have been using that for about 4 months now. I have been using Dark Energy since I started the hydro. I think I am on the 3rd or fourth quart now a little goes a long way, and a lot of people have suggested SuperThrive. Other than the Nitrozime they recommend I plan on using the full regiment of their nutes. If the amount spent on the nutes increased production by 10% the increase would pay for the nutes. Same with my new toy.
Soo.. here is what they look like as of today, and a top shot of the best looking plant, its about 5" tall now, by comparison here is the worst and best of the Blue Berry, about 2 1/2" to 3 1/2". The Northern berry is supposed to be a little taller, I doubt its supposed to be twice the size. Since 20 of the plants are doing fairly well now, I assume the BlueBerry is going to be tough. I will do what I need too. And of course that is the reason for the hybryds, to try and improve the strain.
My new toy has been mentioned as a necessity for maximum yield in hydro. When I started, and tested my water it was ph 7 or higher, and I did the ph down stuff using the drops. This is not easy for some one partially color blind. I had to make decisions were I would invest what little money I had. I decided spending $200.00 for a reverse osmosis and getting a good EC meter would be better than getting the good ph meter and having to deal with the salt build up on pumps etc. Everyone has told me you can't grow plants without ph'ing the water. THe nutes change the water too a dark color, the drops won't work too good for ph'ing the water. And I was Growing 'some plants', so I stuck with my decision until I could afford to get the last one I should need as far as a portable tester goes. This wasn't what I was going to get when I went there, I was just going to get the BlueLab Ph Truncheon to match my EC meter. They are out of stock and will be for at least three months at the manufacturer and Peter made me a hard to refuse deal. Instead of the $220.00 I would have spent for the Truncheon and calibration solutions, I spent $50.00 more and got the works. Accoridng to Peter's brother, Scott, this tri meter would accept the probe from any tester including the one he uses with the $5000.00 system they have. Now we will see if I can figure out how to use it. Guess it will have to wait until I get those HSTTW's transplanted, the roots are hanging out the bottom. VV