Vietnam Vet Denied Pain Meds for Smoking MJ

6ohMax

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So someone actually puts themselves on the line for our country, seeks relief through a natural plant, and is now being denied prescription medication because of it?

http://wbay.com/2015/09/09/vietnam-veteran-denied-pain-pills-after-testing-positive-for-marijuana/

I guess he shouldn't have been so honest.

Well , this is true...I myself as a veteran though I havent tried, but another friend of mine looked into it .....if you are in a MMJ State and the VA asks...being a former military member they instill a value called integrity..so yeah he told them he has his MMJ card..so it basically one or the other...pain meds or MMJ

I choose MMJ
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
pain clinics are known to test for "street" drugs, and can and will kick anyone caught pissing hot out of the clinic..
nothing new really..
 

OGEvilgenius

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People who use opiates for pain usually need them. Cannabis is a fantastic drug for some kinds of pain, but it's not as effective for all. However it is very effective in making opiates work more efficiently. I know a doctor who will prescribe cannabis to anyone who asks that takes pain meds for chronic pain because every time he does their use of opiates drops.

I'd say he should sue but I'm sure he doesn't have the money and I'm sure he'd lose in a completely corrupt system anyway.
 

Desr

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yeah its bullshit..the va doesnt care..i wish they would see state laws dont create the borders for medicine. im open with them about my use and im sure it will come back to bite me in the ass at some point.,they had me on so many prescriptions it was crazy.. 9 at one point..then i started smoking weed again, and i had to tell the va to take me off their benzos and anti psychotics,
the patient should never have to tell the hospital whats best for them, isnt that why we entrust our care to them?
 

Indacouch

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Yeah I'm sure a canabas doc will prescribe to a patient using opiate meds that's not the concern though....it's the doctor prescribing opiate meds that will stop doing so when mmj is present ........at that point the normal pain doc don't give a fuck what a mmj doc thinks that's the problem ......
 

blaze 57

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A few weeks back I had to take a random piss test at my primary doctor. I'm on oxycodone. I noticed the nurses paperwork on the pee test and she never marked the box for a "cannabis" test. The area for street drugs was on a complete different section than legal prescribed drugs. She only marked the "opiate" box for oxycodone/oxycotin. So it appears they will not test me for cannabis. The pain contract I signed about a yr ago never had anything about cannabis on it or said they can cut you off of opiates etc. Maybe because its legal here in Wash state? Hopefully I can get through this. I never heard back from my doctor so far.
 

hotrodharley

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A few weeks back I had to take a random piss test at my primary doctor. I'm on oxycodone. I noticed the nurses paperwork on the pee test and she never marked the box for a "cannabis" test. The area for street drugs was on a complete different section than legal prescribed drugs. She only marked the "opiate" box for oxycodone/oxycotin. So it appears they will not test me for cannabis. The pain contract I signed about a yr ago never had anything about cannabis on it or said they can cut you off of opiates etc. Maybe because its legal here in Wash state? Hopefully I can get through this. I never heard back from my doctor so far.
The VA also cut my buddy off from his Vicodin saying a random piss test showed none in his urine. No idea why they would deny it for that reason but they did. He asked twice but they refused to renew. So he finally goes for MMJ in NM and the doc there tells me he does not have enough history seeking pain control to meet the NM DOH requirements for MMJ. So now no oral pain meds and no legal smoke. I'm damned glad I have Medicare so I don't have to rely on the damned VA.
 

whitebb2727

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The VA is OK I guess. They have rules and guidelines to go by. The thing with mmj is "don't ask, don't tell.
 

qwizoking

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idiotic op. trying to somehow attatch emotion. who cares what he did or didn't do, individual actions dont govern treatment for the entire body, we are all the same. and being a "natural" plant is meaningless.

this and variations happen everyday.


The VA also cut my buddy off from his Vicodin saying a random piss test showed none in his urine. No idea why they would deny it for that reason but they did. He asked twice but they refused to renew. So he finally goes for MMJ in NM and the doc there tells me he does not have enough history seeking pain control to meet the NM DOH requirements for MMJ. So now no oral pain meds and no legal smoke. I'm damned glad I have Medicare so I don't have to rely on the damned VA.
to answer.
if none in system, he isnt taking it.. still getting script = sold or not needed
denied

he better be careful pr he'll get blacklisted witj drug seeking behavior...which does travel with him


desr
"9at one point..then i started smoking weed again, and i had to tell the va totake me off their benzos and antipsychotics,
the patient should never have to tellthe hospital whats best for them, isntthat why we entrust our care to them?"

use your nogin homes. if you dont know how weed interacts with those meds and what it does in the brain how are you to judge anything.

even if you told them immediately that you began smoking, most may not recognize as its not an approved drug, mechanisms of action are not burned into most docs brain like mine

most patients recognize the interaction just as you did, and to put blame on a (unaware of your own treatment) doc is wrong
 
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Dr. Bob

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It is a pity, most medical marijuana patients on pain medication can get the same level of relief with 1/3 to 1/4 the amount of narcotics they originally took, but it requires PAIN MANAGEMENT to properly manage pain. Too many physicians seem more interested in the pain control method than the goal of pain control.

Thank God we have regulations in Michigan with the VA that do not mandate an 'either or' choice.

Dr. Bob
 
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