Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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Grow for fun only

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I'm saving energy for a yearI save to buy five lamps if there is a 12/12 mode, and not 18/6.

From frequent restarts, as a rule, a pulsed ignition device fails. Nothing will happen to the lamp, the main thing is that only before the restart the lamp has cooled down.


on a long veg, the quality of the buds is better, try it. I have already said that it is simpler and easier to get the same amount at a time than in two. Surviving twice a very capricious flowering period or a smelly smell ... Is it better to do it once, right?))) in addition, on veg, a very very low power of lighting. And the result is the same, more precisely: the result is directly proportional to the length of the veg. The larger the vegetation, the greater the result. I have already come out of my youthful age, when I want everything at once, now I have become more thoughtful and sedate. It comes with age and experience.
Yes it is there the long time veg makes great buds, i think most guys know it, while most of them seems to be little lazy, they dont wish grow long, dont want to do much more investment on the growing, haha ppl hope to do fast and simple works usually. :)
 

ttystikk

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@Sedan, @ttystikk

what sets me personally off from this SILO grow method is the long vegging time - 7 months IRRC [!!!]. I know some 12/12fs SOG peeps that do a tent in ~11 weeks. They will beat the 2.5kg in your 10 months easily with using half power.

Solutions could be:
- Revegging. Could you revegg a silo grow? If you do that, just give it a months to recover under 30%-50% light 24/7 (not sure GLR may work here to reduce cost a bit) then you could harvest also every 3 months = 2,5kg under 1k W. That would make really a difference.

I've successfully revegged huge plants, that had a mainstemlength of ~~1.5m (these plants were large bushes, LST on mainstem plus multiptopping of sidebranches) so theoretically it should work.

- Cut down veg time with a vertical soil-approach. I mean, your soil down there for these large plants is not really much. What if the soil would extend up into the air and the plants just grow out of it towards the lamp. This would make it also so much more easy for a plant to transpaort water up because it wouldn't have to overcome such an enormous distance.
I realized that from the beginning, so the silo in my case was part of a larger production system that utilised the portability of plants grown in RDWC and on a trellis panel. The clones would be grown in one room until they got bigger, then transferred to another where they got bigger. The final prebloom stage is where they got mounted on their own trellis panel and then when ready they'd be moved to the silo for bloom. This effectively eliminated your time constraint because any given silo was always in bloom; they'd be harvested and new plants put in place in less than 30 minutes for the entire silo.

This process continued when I replaced round silos growing around HID lamps with flat panels in front of LED lights. The flat panels and straight aisles made it much easier to move the panels and to work with them while in place. The system works extremely well and because of the vertical orientation can produce much more per square foot of floor space than flatlander methods, while preserving wider aisles for ease of maintenance and even use of machinery.
 

Sedan

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Lol

No liars or traitors left on the train! They were invited to disembark en route!

Defenestration, only the scenery is better.
An interesting fact about this person. He wanted to live in the USSR. He was not allowed the Soviet government to live in the USSR, they were allowed in the GDR. Why not allowed? I have two versions: they did not trust him, they thought he was a CIA agent deeply and artfully conspired. And the second option, more likely, they were afraid that he would be disappointed in the USSR after living there a bit, because in the USSR everything was not as good as the BAM song.))) As a result, he settled in East Germany and married the famous actress. Films with her participation were very popular then in the USSR.

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Then he died tragically under unclear circumstances.

This is the official version:

"On June 13, 1986, the singer was found dead in Lake Zeutene near his home in East Berlin. It was officially announced that he drowned. Later, by studying the documents in this case, taken from the Stasi archive, the suicide version was confirmed which his German friends adhered to: as a result of an autopsy in the stomach of the singer, a tablet of a potent sleeping pill was discovered that was not completely dissolved. Also, among the documents was found a farewell letter from Dean Reed, which he wrote before his death. "

I do not believe in that..........

It is also known that in 1976-1978 he collaborated with the Stasi.
 

Sedan

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Yuri Antonov

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From sadness to joy
Once I thought that our meetings wouldn't happen soon
The earth was so immense
Between sadness and joy there are rivers and mountains
Between sadness and joy there are forests and fields

Once I wanted to be like an echo
To rush through the coppery silence of fallen leaves
From sadness to joy you need to keep going
From sadness to joy you need to keep flying

But now there are no obstacles and distance
Our meeting is my reward, you are beside me
From sadness to joy is no more than a breath away
From sadness to joy is within our reach

1987

 
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Sedan

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Yuri Antonov

Your home
We all rush for miracles
But there is nothing more wonderful
Than that ground under the skies
Where your home is.

All your grieves
Will completely disappear at once,
When you call to mind the blue stars
Above the roof of your home.

And when suddenly you get sad,
Then that sadness makes no sense
If you know, that under the sun
Somewhere, there is your home.

The world is full of joy and happiness,
But your home land is dearer than everything.
And it is so lovely to return
To your home!
https://lyricstranslate.com

 

Sedan

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A ray of the golden sun
Версии: #1#2#3#4
A ray of the golden sun
Is hidden behind a mantle of clouds.
And again between us there is a wall
That has suddenly raised.

chorus:
The night will go away, a bright morning will come,
I believe happiness awaits us.
The night will go away, a bright morning will come,
The sun will rise ... The sun will rise.

The birds stopped singing.
The starlight touched the roofs.
Through blizzards and sadness
You hear my voice!

chorus:
The night will go away, a bright morning will come,
I believe happiness awaits us.
The night will go away, a bright morning will come,
The sun will rise ... The sun will rise ......

 

DCcan

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Hey, I remember him
An interesting fact about this person. He wanted to live in the USSR. He was not allowed the Soviet government to live in the USSR, they were allowed in the GDR. Why not allowed? I have two versions: they did not trust him, they thought he was a CIA agent deeply and artfully conspired. And the second option, more likely, they were afraid that he would be disappointed in the USSR after living there a bit, because in the USSR everything was not as good as the BAM song.))) As a result, he settled in East Germany and married the famous actress. Films with her participation were very popular then in the USSR.
Actually, the CIA and State Dept saved him from Chile after his second arrest there. That actually took a lot of work by a lot of people who hated him, to save his head and keep it there. He had absolutely no gratitude for that, and didn't take suggestions to stay out of Latin America very well either. There was talk of sticking him in US prison as punishment for his ingratitude, but that was ruled out.
People wanted him dead in Chile the second time he was arrested. The first chance he got in prison didn't teach him his lesson, they thought at the time.

He was not going to walk out of that prison in Chile from the military government, but we didn't want a martyr for the AntiWar movement.
He was let go, banned from Latin America ( we still had major operation in Argentina) , continued to be a minor pest, then wished good riddance when he went east. He was frustrated by the un-official travel ban, and booking agents were discouraged from giving him a stage.

Moving to USSR would of been a blessing actually. We could have easily discredited him as a traitor or frame him as an agent.
When he went to GDR, they decided to only bother him if he tried to recruit US soldiers thru shows in the West or became too popular in the East.
Then they would revisit his disposition, so to speak. I do remember no contact allowed/ report any.

In 1986, he came out supporting Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on 60 Minutes.
The people running Iran-Contra were also the ones screaming for his head in Chile, but it seems too petty to take out a has-been radical behind the Iron Curtain. He was just a forgotten oddity of the Cold War more than a threat, I can't see the point of it. Former radicals had no followings anymore...they were all Reagan Youth in the 80's, Trump voters today.
I just pointed at the TV and laughed at him.... "If you only knew how lucky you are to be breathing today." and turned the channel. Maybe someone else didn't, but it looks like stress just got to him. He went thru quite a bit for his values, lost his home, career, then his wife again.

His first wife was pressured to publicly divorce and disavow him while he was locked up, that was part of the deal to get him out alive, he had to loose everything very publicly. I thought he just couldn't go thru that, losing everything yet again and the 60 Minutes piece failing to restart his career.
The pressure on the wife's entire family was Justice Dept talking to everyone in the family's valley, making it clear he was not welcome back ever.
 
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Sedan

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Hey, I remember him

Actually, the CIA and State Dept saved him from Chile after his second arrest there. That actually took a lot of work by a lot of people who hated him, to save his head and keep it there. He had absolutely no gratitude for that, and didn't take suggestions to stay out of Latin America very well either. There was talk of sticking him in US prison as punishment for his ingratitude, but that was ruled out.
People wanted him dead in Chile the second time he was arrested. The first chance he got in prison didn't teach him his lesson, they thought at the time.

He was not going to walk out of that prison in Chile from the military government, but we didn't want a martyr for the AntiWar movement.
He was let go, banned from Latin America ( we still had major operation in Argentina) , continued to be a minor pest, then wished good riddance when he went east. He was frustrated by the un-official travel ban, and booking agents were discouraged from giving him a stage.

Moving to USSR would of been a blessing actually. We could have easily discredited him as a traitor or frame him as an agent.
When he went to GDR, they decided to only bother him if he tried to recruit US soldiers thru shows in the West or became too popular in the East.
Then they would revisit his disposition, so to speak. I do remember no contact allowed/ report any.

In 1986, he came out supporting Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on 60 Minutes.
The people running Iran-Contra were also the ones screaming for his head in Chile, but it seems too petty to take out a has-been radical behind the Iron Curtain. He was just a forgotten oddity of the Cold War more than a threat, I can't see the point of it. Former radicals had no followings anymore...they were all Reagan Youth in the 80's, Trump voters today.
I just pointed at the TV and laughed at him.... "If you only knew how lucky you are to be breathing today." and turned the channel. Maybe someone else didn't, but it looks like stress just got to him. He went thru quite a bit for his values, lost his home, career, then his wife again.

His first wife was pressured to publicly divorce and disavow him while he was locked up, that was part of the deal to get him out alive, he had to loose everything very publicly. I thought he just couldn't go thru that, losing everything yet again and the 60 Minutes piece failing to restart his career.
Bro, wouldn’t it be easier to say that he was a tool in the hands of the Communists, as an obvious example of how a person with a musician's popularity over Elvis Presley in the USA at a certain moment is being pursued by militant opportunists and imprisoned.))) )))

So it was presented by Soviet propaganda. Dean Reed records could be freely bought in the USSR in the Melody chain of stores. I had a record of it. The song was called ... as I remember now .. "Elizabeth"))) I did not understand what he was singing about, but it was very similar to the Russian word "velosiped (bicycle)" - I then dreamed of a good bicycle that this song sunk into my soul .)))

(At that time it was impossible to just buy Elvis Presley or Beatles CDs ....1980.... — they were half illegal.)

I listened to this disc on an old lamp player, there was a record on top, and a far-wave radio receiver below. On this receiver you could listen to Radio Liberty, which was jammed. There was a lot of interference, but you could hear the announcer in a Russian voice, but with an incomprehensible voice, talking about what you wrote above.
I know this opinion, the opinion of Western propaganda, since the beginning of the 80s. I also know the opinion of the propaganda of the USSR at that time, regarding Dean Reed. I compare two opinions, it turns out something more or less objective, it is on this that I build my conclusions.

PS on account of the fact that you told me that it was a policy even deeper that I was mistaken in two opinions !! Yes, I agree after you told me. that perhaps the KGB did not allow him to live in the USSR, so that they would not openly pour mud on him in the west.

In 1986, the government of the USSR already understood that the end was near, so I don’t understand one - who was profitable for his performance in 86 ?! Already in the USSR, then, the people began to show dissatisfaction with the people over this issue, because so many guys returned with disabilities or in zinc coffins. Then there was no longer such vivid propaganda for the war in Afghanistan to entrust this task to Dean Reed. No one in our country knew about his performance like that. You were the first to tell me about this!
 

Sedan

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find this film in English so that it becomes clear to you that there is a different opinion in the West too.

PS Renata Blum is a distant relative of Eric Honecker.))
 

DCcan

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Bro, wouldn’t it be easier to say that he was a tool in the hands of the Communists, as an obvious example of how a person with a musician's popularity over Elvis Presley in the USA at a certain moment is being pursued by militant opportunists and imprisoned.))) )))

So it was presented by Soviet propaganda. Dean Reed records could be freely bought in the USSR in the Melody chain of stores. I had a record of it.
No, he was a blunt instrument, we kept him that way. We couldn't let him become a tool.
That's why he couldn't get booking or records sold...who wants FBI and Tax men following him around at their door?
On this receiver you could listen to Radio Liberty, which was jammed. There was a lot of interference, but you could hear the announcer in a Russian voice, but with an incomprehensible voice, talking about what you wrote above.
Sorry, that could be party my fault. We used to see how drunk we could get them at the bar before going on air. I got a demerit for that once...upper management across several branches of government were very cross, I blamed the Russians for tricking me into buying drinks! No more feeding the bears!
PS on account of the fact that you told me that it was a policy even deeper that I was mistaken in two opinions !! Yes, I agree after you told me. that perhaps the KGB did not allow him to live in the USSR, so that they would not openly pour mud on him in the west.
Yea, thats what we thought too. Sneaky bastards put him in GDR, we thought he was going to Bundesrepublik where we could watch him closer, some people didn't like that at all.
 
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Sedan

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who wants FBI and Tax men following him around at their door?
Now I once again understand how great the gap between the mentality of the American and Russian people.

We had such a musician and poet Vladimir Vysotsky, you can’t imagine how popular he was with the people. He was forbidden concerts and performances, all agents rejected him. But he did not need it, he did not care about the KGB and agents. He did not do what he was told, and for some reason he did not need millions of dollars. He was a creator, poet and musician. His wife was ..... a little better than Rinat Blum ... after her film, all the women in Europe ... and ... America began to copy her hairstyle. This is Marina Vlady, the wife of Vladimir Vysotsky. He had a lot of opportunities to go to the USA or somewhere else, and due to his incredible popularity, having sold himself to the CIA, he could speak on Radio Liberty in the same way that Dean Reed talked about the USA. Dean Reed and Vysotsky are essentially the same two people, but Vysotsky did not betray his country, and Dean Reed betrayed ... I assure you, Dean Reed Vysotsky did it all sincerely sincerely - not for money! Vysotsky could have sold himself in the USSR, but he was in disgrace and did what he wanted to do, to bring the truth to people!
Sorry, that could be party my fault. We used to see how drunk we could get them at the bar before going on air. I got a demerit for that once...upper management across several branches of government were very cross, I blamed the Russians for tricking me into buying drinks! No more feeding the bears!
Bro, I did not understand this at all! Something about a drink .. the Russians screwed up.))) .. drank everything? It is possible!)))

Yea, thats what we thought too. Sneaky bastards put him in GDR, we thought he was going to Bundesrepublik where we could watch him closer, some people didn't like that at all.
I understand you, Bro: you wanted to get to his throat faster to strangle.))) It was much easier to get to the GDR than to the USSR.)))) It wasn't you who accidentally organized his "suicide"? this is a joke!

PS: Now seriously: after all the CIA tried to help Dean in every possible way, and Dean did the CIA, the CIA could throw Dean Reed off the bridge ... by chance)))) ... or not ?!
 
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