bullshit dude,.. you're talking out your ass. there are no such 'minimum equipment' requirements. Every single thing actually required, is going to depend heavily on the size of the grow.
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alphawolf.hack
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i guess i should add imo. but if the fans and filters are sized properly you could always get away with that many. and i agree with your statement. but for a simple grow with less variables 3 fans and 2 filters can have a variety of arrangements that would prove useful and not require more ventilation. didnt mean to come off as if it was a statement
legallyflying
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I don't know why I am even fucking bothering. It's kind of like trying to teach a retard calculous, but why would you ever need two filters
alphawolf.hack
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co2 fool. if im a retard i must be the rain man
alphawolf.hack
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id rather over do it then under do it. jesus christ kids these days think they can get by with the bare minimums you know what happens when you do the minimum you get the minimum. i hope your smell is under control. bcuz even if air is scrubbed im not going to vent it off with out filtering it it takes only a whiff of my flowers.
legallyflying
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LMFAO. You have two filters...cause of co2? Listen dude, I am about as fucking far from bare minimum as you can get. Totally sealed. Ppm controlled water cooled co2 generator, huge mini split, chillers, you name it. Shit, I built a ph doser just so I could go on a two week vacation. I pulled 5.6lbs of grade A off of 3600 watts last run. How many fans did I have heating and cooling or "fresh air" ? NONE. How many fans do I run? One, on my carbon scrubber.
Alpha wolf, you don't know as much as you think you do.
Alpha wolf, you don't know as much as you think you do.
alphawolf.hack
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i dont give a fuck about your money spending richboy asss.... you can suck o dees nuts. this is an internet exchange where you are giving faulty info. no fresh air i can be done and you might only have to fill up on co2 BUT I DONT GIVE A FUCK. fresh air is good air and i dot have $$$ for co2 controller $$$ ,small filter for the exhaust i can afford. how much weight you have i still dont give a FUCK! with your attitude someones gonna take that shit from right under your nose. not go to my grow room for 2 weeks sounds stupid unless im on vacation and even then thats as big a risk as going to the grow every day. all in all FUCK YOU and YOUR BULLSHIT INFO. im not commercial so i dont care to compare.
legallyflying
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Hey moron, if you had read this thread, you would have known legallyflying is the king of over do it, because he got bed bugs once, lol. no but seriously, read before you open your mouth old man, and maybe open your eyes too, do the math of what I'm saying, look at the digital read out of my c02 ppm meter and see that what I'm saying is true, do the fog test at my grow room doors. Trust me shit4brains, i have better things to do then come in here and lie to the likes of anyone who doesn't even read the thread their posting in, let alone think about what I'm saying. I have 750ppm c02 levels in my grow 24/7 365 with ZERO c02 being added. And do you even know what a negative vacuum is? Do you realize you can not smell anything inside a negative vacuum right? Ya,.. and we're the kids... keep over doing it and not understanding why, its fools like you that just add more for the sake of more that get caught, not those who think and understand.
alphawolf.hack
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man its people like you.........well i guess you can use your imagination to see how i probably feel about you. so fuck it, whatever you say is right, your correct, absolutely right, all the info you give is good knowledge, under any circumstances what you say is right.... okay god. i bet you have to google the iq # of an average person considered retarded. get back to call o duty or whatever is on your screen because you will never make any advances in your life or this world. your not creative or innovative. your lame and pathetic with some knowledge about growing. probably not your op alone. and i hope your not considered the brains.
im done with this conversation. my last statement wasn't very comprehensible as it was written in anger. so have a nice fucking day and respond all you want but spending so much time on the comp to hear bullshit from you is giving me a headache. im gonna go tend to my girls.
im done with this conversation. my last statement wasn't very comprehensible as it was written in anger. so have a nice fucking day and respond all you want but spending so much time on the comp to hear bullshit from you is giving me a headache. im gonna go tend to my girls.
legallyflying
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I don't know if that was directed at DIY or me, but in the end it doesn't really matter. Overboard on the pest thing? Maybe.. but I tell you what, try paying out nearly $1400 in electricity for a harvest cycle that doesn't ever produce because of spider mites. I hear sooo many stories of bugs hitching rides on your clothes and your buddies clothes.. it just isn't worth it.
I'm not saying I'm always right, but unlike many posters (including alpha.wolf) if I am not absolutely sure of what I am saying then I don't say anything.
To Mr. DIY.. just for the sake of clarity.. the presence of negative pressure (or vacuum as you say) does not mean that no smell is present. This is for two main reasons.. the principal one being that you have to have something exhausting the air OUT in order to have a vaccum, hence a vector for smell dissipation. This is lessened by proper filtering. The 2nd reason, and this is a bigger one; is that the terpines in cannabis (the chemicals responsible for that great smell, are actually volatile organic chemicals (VOC's). So much like other VOC you are familiar with (gas,paint, etc) the smell can passively move through porous surfaces like drywall, wood, etc. Since my room is sealed, this is what I am trying to prevent so I run a single filter as a scrubber.. but only for the last 3-4 weeks.
I'm not actually really worried about smell, I live in a good neighborhood, have friendly neighbors, and I'm in compliance with all state and local medical MJ laws.
I'm not saying I'm always right, but unlike many posters (including alpha.wolf) if I am not absolutely sure of what I am saying then I don't say anything.
To Mr. DIY.. just for the sake of clarity.. the presence of negative pressure (or vacuum as you say) does not mean that no smell is present. This is for two main reasons.. the principal one being that you have to have something exhausting the air OUT in order to have a vaccum, hence a vector for smell dissipation. This is lessened by proper filtering. The 2nd reason, and this is a bigger one; is that the terpines in cannabis (the chemicals responsible for that great smell, are actually volatile organic chemicals (VOC's). So much like other VOC you are familiar with (gas,paint, etc) the smell can passively move through porous surfaces like drywall, wood, etc. Since my room is sealed, this is what I am trying to prevent so I run a single filter as a scrubber.. but only for the last 3-4 weeks.
I'm not actually really worried about smell, I live in a good neighborhood, have friendly neighbors, and I'm in compliance with all state and local medical MJ laws.
Umm,.. a negative vacuum is a negative vacuum, and will work to prevent smell from getting out in EVERY grow room, but obviously in a bigger room you'd need a bigger fan. The concept really isn't that hard to understand. Way to let your anger get to you and not stay on point. Then again, if i couldn't understand the concept of a negative vacuum i might get mad and have to go away for a time out too, lol
I'm legal as well, only worried about smell as far as not letting my neighbors who wouldn't be cool with it smell it,.. or a thief.
Don't put words in my mouth, i never said smell wasn't present. Of course smell is present, in the grow room, and only in the grow room. Don't tell me smell is seeping through 6" of drywall and insolation out of a room that has a negative vacuum, and or negative pressure,.. you say weed i say chronic, whatever.
At one point you said 'This is lessened by proper filtering',..
I said many times i run a Can33 carbon filter, with two 100+CFM fans inline, its what gives me that negative pressure in the room. Try and keep up will ya! lol.. Once again,.. 100cfm is more then sufficient for my 11'x12'x10' 1320sq ft grow room. Doesn't take much math to realize I'm recycling the room volume many times an hour. If you think you need more, you're a fool who doesn't comprehend why you can't smell anything present in a negative vacuum, unless you yourself are in the negative vacuum. Again, 750ppm c02 levels 24/7 365, that would be because the outside air is 750 where i live, anyone smart enough to do the same as i do will have ppm level's equal to where they live in there grow room 24/7 365 as well, the average is 350,.. and rising.
Thanks for letting us know you have nothing intelligent to add either...
I use to vent into my attic through no filter as well,.. out of sight out of mind right? Ya,.. i use to be young and stupid once too kid, don't worry, it happens to even the best of us. High building i live in too, My attic is even 25'ft above the sidewalk outside, i never thought i could smell anything outside either, (you smoke it, you stick your nose right in it dumbass, you're not going to be able to smell a little outside,.. DUH!).. till one day i saw someone walk buy and blatantly sniff sniff in the direction, then looked in the direction of my home. it was the next day i grew up a little and bought a real carbon filter even though i am legal, don't think if it smells too good someone wont come in and take it.
EDIT: ...never mind, just looked @ what you grow, no one in so cal really wants that, you're safe jr, lol
legallyflying
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Wow. What a dickhead. Before you get all high an mighty you might want to check yourself.
For the onlookers trying to decide who knows what, you have one guy with a metric shit ton of rep and several well liked and informative threads that actually contribute something. The other guy was just wondering last week if plant roots could just air in un aerated water and was trying to devise a way to "suck air out of his buckets to replace air in the root zone" What was the other thread you started? Oh yeah, hey when I'm jonesing I pick unripe buds and put them on a heating pad all night do I can smoke them the next day"
Yeah dude. Your a fucking master gardner now
For the onlookers trying to decide who knows what, you have one guy with a metric shit ton of rep and several well liked and informative threads that actually contribute something. The other guy was just wondering last week if plant roots could just air in un aerated water and was trying to devise a way to "suck air out of his buckets to replace air in the root zone" What was the other thread you started? Oh yeah, hey when I'm jonesing I pick unripe buds and put them on a heating pad all night do I can smoke them the next day"
Yeah dude. Your a fucking master gardner now
Really kid?.. That's as good as you got?... You're kind of fucking sad, and proving me right at this point. Did i ever claim to be a master? I need to check myself? You need to grow up, address the topic at hand, and stop putting words in others mouths. If you can't stick to the topic at hand, and address the points I've laid out, you prove you're the only one who's miles from being a master grower. What i said here, and in other threads is true, and it can help a lot of folk who aren't fucking morons, and can, in this case, understand the concept of a negative vacuum. Sorry it's over your head, or you're just too small to admit creating a negative vacuum in your grow room will keep smell contained in your grow room. Maybe i should believe that odor will seep through drywall, insolation, and more drywall, in the presence of a negative vacuum, just because you said so, lol.. get your head out of your ass jr