Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I love the smell of biocanna teriyaki :D

Anyways, what's everyone's favorite chelating agent?
Humic and fulvic are chelating agents, and most of these OMRI formulas are chelating using those two and/or citric acid.
Agreed on the teriyaki. I'm about to do a video where I drink a cup of my solution to show how great vegan organics is. :)
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
BioBoost MSDS
http://www.igrowhydro.com/canna/BioBoost-MSDS.pdf
Page 1 / 2 MSDS: BIOCANNa BIOBOOST
1. IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE / PREPARATION AND
COMPANY / UNDERTAKING
Product name: BIOCANNA BIOBOOST

Address: Canna Continental
11400 W. Olympic Blvd, #200
Los Angeles, CA 90064
USA

Fax: 877-233-2488
2. COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Liquid organic bloom stimulating supplement

HAZARDOUS INGREDIENT(S) CAS no. %(w/w) Symbol R-phrases
Contains no hazardous ingredients
3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
Not hazardous to human health.
4. FIRST-AID MEASURES
notice: No immediate medical attention necessary
Inhalation: None
Skin contact: Wash with water
Eye contact: Irrigate with clean water
Ingestion: Drink a copious amount of water
5. FIRE-FIGHTING MEASURES
Water based ingredients. Non- combustible.
Extinguishing media: All media allowed.
6. ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
Personal precautions: none
Environmental precautions: concentrated product can spoil ground water –
dilute with water.
7. HANDLING AND STORAGE
Handling: Use diluted solution within one day.
Storage: Store above zero degrees.
Keep out of reach of children.
Keep packing closed.
8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS / PERSONAL PROTECTION
Good working practice suggests use of gloves and goggles.
OCCUPATIONAL EXPOSURE LIMITS LTEL 8hr TWA STEL time
Hazardous ingredient(s) ppm mg/m3 ppm mg/m3 mins
none.


Page 2 / 2 MSDS: BIOCANNa BIOBOOST
9. PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
Form: Viscous Liquid
Colour: Dark brown
Odour: Characteristic
Odour threshold (ppm): -
pH (value): 3.7-4.5
Boiling point (deg C): -
Melting point (deg C): -
Flashpoint (deg C): -
Flammable limits: -
Auto ignition temperature (deg C): -
Explosive properties: -
HLB: -
Oxidizing properties: -
Density (g/l): 1000
Solubility (water): 100 %
Partition coefficient: -
Viscosity (mPa.s): -
10. STABILITY ANS REACTIVITY
Hazardous reactions: none
Hazardous decomposition product(s): none
11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Inhalation: -
Skin contact: not toxic, irritation may occur
Eye contact: not toxic, irritation may occur
Ingestion: not toxic.

12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Persistence and degradation: Quick biological degradable
Mobility: Good in water /ground water
Bioaccumulative potential: None

13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
Disposal should be in accordance with local, state and national legislation.
14. TRANSPORT INFORMATION
Not classified as hazardous for transport.
Not classified as dangerous for the (aquatic) environment.
Proper shipping name: -
Marine pollutant: Not classified as a marine pollutant.
ADR: Not applicable
15. REGULATORY INFORMATION
Not classified as hazardous to users.
16. OTHER INFORMATION
The data are based on present knowledge. However they shall not constitute a
guarantee for any specific product features and shall not establish a legally valid
contractual relationship.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
BioCanna Vega


Page 1 / 2 MSDS: BIOCANNa BIOVEGA
1. IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE / PREPARATION AND
COMPANY / UNDERTAKING
Product name: BIOCANNA BIOVEGA

Address: Canna Continental
11400 W. Olympic Blvd, #200
Los Angeles, CA 90064
USA

Fax: 877-233-2488

2. COMPOSITION / INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Organic liquid fertilizer NPK 3.5 + 1.0 + 5.5 with trace elements.
HAZARDOUS INGREDIENT(S) CAS no. %(w/w) Symbol R-phrases
Contains no hazardous ingredients
3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
Not hazardous to human health.

4. FIRST-AID MEASURES
notice: no immediate medical attention necessary
Inhalation: -
Skin contact: wash with water
Eye contact: irrigate with clean water
Ingestion: drink a copious amount of water
(Rize edit: and smoke copious amounts of hash)
5. FIRE-FIGHTING MEASURES
Water based ingredients. Non- combustible.
Extinguishing media: All media allowed.
6. ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
Personal precautions: none
Environmental precautions: concentrated product can spoil ground water –
dilute with water.
7. HANDLING AND STORAGE
Handling: Use diluted solution within one day.
Storage: Store above zero degrees.
Keep out of reach of children.
Keep packing closed.
8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS / PERSONAL PROTECTION
Good working practice suggests use of gloves and goggles.
OCCUPATIONAL EXPOSURE LIMITS LTEL 8hr TWA STEL time
Hazardous ingredient(s) ppm mg/m3 ppm mg/m3 mins
none.


Page 2 / 2 MSDS: BIOCANNa BIOVEGA
9. PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
Form: Viscous Liquid
Colour: Dark brown
Odour: Characteristic
Odour threshold (ppm): -
pH (value): -
Boiling point (deg C): -
Melting point (deg C): -
Flashpoint (deg C): -
Flammable limits: -
Auto ignition temperature (deg C): -
Explosive properties: -
HLB: -
Oxidizing properties: -
Density (g/l): 1250
Solubility (water): 100 %
Partition coefficient: -
Viscosity (mPa.s): max. 5000 cSt
10. STABILITY ANS REACTIVITY
Hazardous reactions: none
Hazardous decomposition product(s): none
11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Inhalation: -
Skin contact: not toxic, irritation may occur
Eye contact: not toxic, irritation may occur
Ingestion: not toxic.

12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Persistence and degradation: Quick biological degradable
Mobility: Good in water /ground water
Bioaccumulative potential: None

13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
Disposal should be in accordance with local, state and national legislation.
14. TRANSPORT INFORMATION
Not classified as hazardous for transport.
Not classified as dangerous for the (aquatic) environment.
Proper shipping name: -
Marine pollutant: Not classified as a marine pollutant.
ADR: Not applicable
15. REGULATORY INFORMATION
Not classified as hazardous to users.
16. OTHER INFORMATION
The data are based on present knowledge. However they shall not constitute a
guarantee for any specific product features and shall not establish a legally valid
contractual relationship.
 

virgrow

Member
how many ml. per gallon do you use. I've found that the web site and the feeding chart card I got with my nutes differ quite a bit. I am new to biocanna. I was at the harvest dance and heard you and kushman talking veganics and was very intrigued. So now I am the proud owner of the biocanna line. I have a closed system and the plants are in botanicare ready gro moisture mix. I feed every other day. any pointers on strength.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
how many ml. per gallon do you use. I've found that the web site and the feeding chart card I got with my nutes differ quite a bit. I am new to biocanna. I was at the harvest dance and heard you and kushman talking veganics and was very intrigued. So now I am the proud owner of the biocanna line. I have a closed system and the plants are in botanicare ready gro moisture mix. I feed every other day. any pointers on strength.
Check my grow journal out, the link is in my signature at the bottom of my posts. I have some numbers listed for my veg cycle regime. I should also say that how I grow is different than Kushman. We both use the Biocanna, but there are many differences.

Thanks for listening at the harvest dance. Kushman wouldn't stfu as usual... I had a whole demonstration on brewing teas planned. That guy. :rolleyes:
 
Just started my first grow, veganically (some of the starter fertilizers in Sunshine Mix #4 Advanced might not be, but other than that). Not because I think animal-based fertilizers don't grow excellent cannabis (they do), or because I think feeding plants poop is gross (I don't), but rather because I know that using plant-based nutrition is much better for the environment. We're about to run out of seabird guano, harvesting bat guano does huge damage to the environment, and bone and blood meal are generally stockyard products. Yuck. However, I'm not sure how I feel about using Soy as a nitrogen base a la Nature's Nectar, either—chances are that's Monstanto GE soy, which does arguably as much damage as guano harvesting.

At any rate, check out the grow here and let me know if you have any suggestions.
 

TheOrganic

Well-Known Member
Can't get biocanna online that sucks HUMBOLDT it is!
Isn't vegan organic I am lost on all the bullshit on this. I guess I should wiki vegan. Sounds like I would kick your ass as a alpha male cause your weak from not being a omnivore cause thats what we are. Weed out the weak 2012.
 
It should be Organic Soybeans, which i believe can't be GMO technically. http://www.omri.org/suppliers/GMO
That is assuming this part doesn't apply to GMO soybeans. Oh, OMRI:

When specific criteria are met, a GE material is reviewed as non-GE material and may be allowed for use in OMRI Listed products.

And they don't tell you what those criteria are unless you apply to be certified.

And yes, there are plenty of places online to get BioCanna. Try here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=buy+biocanna+vega
 

NightbirdX

Well-Known Member
Hey guys, I had a few questions as I've had a few problems over the last couple months. First off, I am a new grower, but have some experience using the Fox Farms line of Nutrients and we have that pretty dialed in, we were looking to move to the BioCanna line. I decided to be the guinea pig and went off and got set up. I had some problems right off. I was using Canna Coco with my BioVega, Cannazyme, and Rhizotonic. The plants yellowed over the next week. I got in touch with Canna and they told me that I needed to go with a peat based fertilized soil, so I went back and picked up some Happy Frog Organic Soil. For the next week, I gave the plants water, Rhizotonic, and Cannazyme. They turned green again and started to grow. The following week, I added 4ml of BioVega to the mix, and the following week I went to 8ml. I started having problems and signs of Nutrient Burn were popping up so I went back to just water and Rhizo/'Zyme. They are doing well again, and at the beginning of next week will be going into bloom.

My questions are about the Happy Frog Soil. I used it because we I couldn't find any BioTerra Plus as it is now not allowed to be imported due to sterilization issues. I was told Happy Frog was comparable and that I should use a ferilized soil, so I went with that. I don't even think that you need nutes if you are using the fertilized soil. I am pretty sure that if I just added water to them when they were dry, they would do their thing. Thus negating the need for the nutrients, lol. The other problem is that the water retention is terrible. On my newest set going into veg and from here on out, I believe, I cut the soil with Pro-Mix in a 1:1 ratio. The water retention is much better, but now I will have to retweak my nutrient mix.

So basically ya that is it, any ideas? I am thinking that when I go into bloom with these I will have leeched enough of the nutrients in the soil to safely use the BioFlores without burning them again. When I start veg with my 1:1 ratio plants, should I let them use the nutes in the soil for a week and then add my BioVega in after that? Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
what are our option for mycorrhizal fungi?
http://www.bioag.com/oregonorderpage.html
VAM- Endo MixTM: A superior mycorrhizal fungi product made by top US researchers with over twenty years applied experience. VAM-Endo mix contains 7 different strains and 158 propagules per gram. Shop and compare! Improves transplant success, increases absorption of water and nutrients and enhances plant growth. Use in a variety of applications including dry broadcast for turf and farms or add to liquid for hydroponic, irrigation, and hand-watering applications. Use for seed treatments, clones/cuttings, and fortification after making compost tea.

For prices and sizes click the Buy Now link and you will be redirected to the order cart.
From my sources this is the best myco product. And the other myco products are re-labeled and more expensive versions of this product.
 

RPsmoke420

Active Member
Bioboost doesnt do much alone. It is plant hormones. BioBoost allows your plants to do more, but the plants need to have the "building blocks" to make these complex terpenoids, that the bioboost encourages.
Exactly. It's an elicitor of sorts. I would think it would still be beneficial to use with other nutrients though, and not only Canna specific.

Boosters comprise a large family of products and they come in various types: growth boosters, flowering boosters, rooting boosters and so on. The technical term is actually elicitors, and most of the time they are natural extracts from plants. A large number of plants synthesize molecules that are not directly linked to their metabolism. Some of these molecules are useful for plant survival—for instance, they can give the plant a bitter taste, making them less palatable for grazing animals, or they can help the plant survive temperature fluctuations. They are also the chemical weapons used by plants in their never-ending fight for space, light and food. Although the benefit for the plant is clear in the case of many of these booster molecules, the reason why the plant spends energy to manufacture some of them—referred to under the generic name of secondary metabolites—is actually far from obvious. These include essential oils, tannins, alkaloids, latex, glycosides, terpens and many others. These secondary metabolites provide us with a number of medicines, essential oils and resins, as well as tannins for leather, natural insecticides, spices and flavors for the kitchen and much more. Nature provides us with thousands of these compounds and a single plant species can produce a large variety of them. It is among the secondary metabolites that we find the building blocks for the boosters, which are extracted from one plant or another according to the desired effect. Here is a simple example that anybody can try: willow contains molecules that will help a cutting during the rooting stage. Cut some young twigs of willow about four inches long and soak them in water for a few days. You can then use that water as a root booster by watering your cuttings with it or by soaking the stem of cuttings in that water before putting them in place. You will be amazed how efficient the maceration can be! According to the plant that you choose for extraction as well as the process used, you can achieve a large spectrum of effects. Generally speaking, not only do boosters increase a plant's intake capacity for nutritional elements but can also help to move them inside the plant. Boosters can also promote the growth of a vigorous root system, improving the general health of the plant as well as its capacity to fight harmful fungi and pathogens. On top of this internal effect, boosters also play a part in the surroundings of the plant, tending to favor the development of beneficial micro-organisms in the root zone. Elicitors are still a novelty in the agricultural world, however. At first, they were used primarily by greenhouse growers, nurseries and plant collectors on plants, which generated a large added value, but they are now slowly starting to gain ground in field agriculture. Although they can be expensive, in many cases the economic benefits of using elicitors largely offsets their cost, and it is regulations rather than price that are slowing down research progress. At the same time, it is a sad truth that lobbies from large chemical groups are not keen to see natural elicitors coming on the market and displacing some of their own products.
 

beeznutz

Active Member
thx Matt....
iv checked the site and it seems that it's not OMRI, also not much info as to where the ingredients are from so do you have any info on that? I also sent them an email inquring about OMRI and whether it is vegan based so will see what they have to say about it.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
thx Matt....
iv checked the site and it seems that it's not OMRI, also not much info as to where the ingredients are from so do you have any info on that? I also sent them an email inquring about OMRI and whether it is vegan based so will see what they have to say about it.
not sure any of the myco-inoculants are OMRI.
This product came highly recommended by a couple professionals in the compost tea industry.
 

RPsmoke420

Active Member

sharpshoota

Active Member
hey matt,
i just picked up a bottle of mayan mycrozyme. i got the biggest one they had and its still the smallest bottle ive seen, lol.

How should i feed this? it must be super concentrated... and i remember you told me it wasnt much of a zyme so if you could go into some more detail that would be great, and im sure HN would love you for whatever u post lol
 
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