Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Wolverine97

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I picked up some Diamond Black, BioBud, and Thrive Alive B1 to add into the mix. The Diamond Black says to add a TBS/gal to the mix, but not how often. I have seen at other places that it should only be used once a month. Whats the general consensus?

I also need to go pick up some more mycorrhizae. I have been using Plant Success soluble mycorrhizae and was thinking of getting something more comprehensive. Something that give the microbes, but also gives other added benefits. I was thinking of checking out either Mykos 30, Subculture M and B, or Great White Mycorhizzae. I was also thinking of some Earth Juice Microblast. Any thoughts on any of these?

And that Hash looked insane Matt, lol.
I use the Diamond Black about once a week, sometimes every other week. The Bio Bud is great, but I wouldn't combine with the Bio Boost at the same time. I love Microblast, it's a great all around micronutrient, I use it once every three weeks or so.

On the mycorhizzae and other bennies; Great White is ok, but for mic's I greatly prefer Mykos from Xtreme Gardening, though I do use other innoculants to get a good trichoderma population as well.
 

NightbirdX

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Thanks for the great info. I'll probably go with the Microblast and Mykos. What is wrong with the BioBud and the BioBoost? I was told that the BioBud and the Thrive Alive basically make a sort of Organic Hardener for the buds, and a PK boost in early Bud, which was kinda what I was looking for.
 

Wolverine97

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Thanks for the great info. I'll probably go with the Microblast and Mykos. What is wrong with the BioBud and the BioBoost? I was told that the BioBud and the Thrive Alive basically make a sort of Organic Hardener for the buds, and a PK boost in early Bud, which was kinda what I was looking for.
Nothing wrong with them, I just wouldn't mix the two since they both accomplish the same thing and there could be potential antagonism between them.
 

NightbirdX

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Hmm okay. So I guess I'll use the BioBud for early bloom until I start integrating the BioBoost into the mix at week 2-3?
 

S.V.T.

Active Member
I picked up some Diamond Black, BioBud, and Thrive Alive B1 to add into the mix. The Diamond Black says to add a TBS/gal to the mix, but not how often. I have seen at other places that it should only be used once a month. Whats the general consensus?

I also need to go pick up some more mycorrhizae. I have been using Plant Success soluble mycorrhizae and was thinking of getting something more comprehensive. Something that give the microbes, but also gives other added benefits. I was thinking of checking out either Mykos 30, Subculture M and B, or Great White Mycorhizzae. I was also thinking of some Earth Juice Microblast. Any thoughts on any of these?

And that Hash looked insane Matt, lol.
I use a couple of the products you mention above. The thrive alive b-1 I use 1ml/gallon every watering that I feed through veg and until the second or third week of flowering. After that I ramp it up to 3ml/gallon for the fruiting stage and cut it out at week 7/8. It's worked great. I also soak my rooting cubes in it for a day or so before taking cuttings.

I've been using the Mykos (not the mykos 30) and it's worked wonders in my garden. In addition to the mykos I use vital earth's glacier rock dust (trace elements) and have found this combination to be amazing.
 

Wolverine97

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Hmm okay. So I guess I'll use the BioBud for early bloom until I start integrating the BioBoost into the mix at week 2-3?
I guess that might work, but I'm honestly not 100% sure. They both do the same thing (stimulate flowering response and supposedly allow for more efficient use of nutrients), so I'd be inclined to go with one or the other. Myself, I use Bio Bud and love it, especially for less than half the price of Bio Boost.
 

beeznutz

Active Member
I guess that might work, but I'm honestly not 100% sure. They both do the same thing (stimulate flowering response and supposedly allow for more efficient use of nutrients), so I'd be inclined to go with one or the other. Myself, I use Bio Bud and love it, especially for less than half the price of Bio Boost.
you know, i would love to get the bioboost but at almost $100 for 1L for a sugary product that i don't even know what's inside [i have yet to find a list of the ingredients]....don't know man, i think i'll stick with the biobud.
 

Wolverine97

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you know, i would love to get the bioboost but at almost $100 for 1L for a sugary product that i don't even know what's inside [i have yet to find a list of the ingredients]....don't know man, i think i'll stick with the biobud.
I agree, that's what I was trying to say.
 

Wolverine97

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hey what's ur take on the BioBud? do u use it throughout flowering and how much of it?
i'm 1 month flowering and pushing it at 5ml/gl......i'm thinking going even more soon....
Is this a serious question? I like it, a lot. I run it at 5ml/gal and that seems to do very well in my setup.

Edit: not trying to sound like a dick (which I do sometimes), but I've been pimping that shit all through this thread. I love the stuff, and the whole GO lineup.
 

beeznutz

Active Member
Is this a serious question? I like it, a lot. I run it at 5ml/gal and that seems to do very well in my setup.

Edit: not trying to sound like a dick (which I do sometimes), but I've been pimping that shit all through this thread. I love the stuff, and the whole GO lineup.
k, cool..... yeah, I guess you have been pimping it a bit ;)
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Hey Matt, how important do you think the exp. date on the BioBoost is? I mean, obviously it's there for a reason but I think I might have some left after the date, should I toss it, would I be good for a couple weeks? Maybe I should keep it in the fridge? I've never had fertilizers with an exp. date before.............
My rep contacted Canna, they claim the Bio line is good for a year after expiration :/
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
you know, i would love to get the bioboost but at almost $100 for 1L for a sugary product that i don't even know what's inside [i have yet to find a list of the ingredients]....don't know man, i think i'll stick with the biobud.
yeah, it's a big leap of faith.

Y'all were talking about inoculants. I'm using www.BioAg.com myco. It's whole spores instead of fragments and has twice the shelf life. It's also just species that work with Cannabis spp. (whereas Great White works with a broad range of plants ie conifer trees). Dr Faust and Dr Zadow (who own and run BioAg) will answer questions right away, and they are open about helping indoor medical marijuana gardens. Whereas Canna will only respond to me directly when I threaten them using the power of this thread :) and you can't mention cannabis :roll:
 

Wolverine97

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yeah, it's a big leap of faith.

Y'all were talking about inoculants. I'm using www.BioAg.com myco. It's whole spores instead of fragments and has twice the shelf life. It's also just species that work with Cannabis spp. (whereas Great White works with a broad range of plants ie conifer trees). Dr Faust and Dr Zadow (who own and run BioAg) will answer questions right away, and they are open about helping indoor medical marijuana gardens. Whereas Canna will only respond to me directly when I threaten them using the power of this thread :) and you can't mention cannabis :roll:
BioAg makes good stuff for sure. Xtreme Gardening also uses whole spores, not propagules in their Mykos which is much better overall. Even with only one species in there I'm getting much better results from their Mykos than I ever got using Great White.
 

jethead

Active Member
Hey Matt and eveyone, I just bought Gen. Org. Go Box and will be using it for 4 clones I got on May 11 which I planted right away. I watered only and today I fed with 1/2 strength of what the feed chart says. I was wondering if and when I go up to full strength , do I continue to use the chart all the way through the grow ? Thans very much for the support. This is my first organic grow and I am looking forward to see how it turns out some tastey strains I'm growing. ( Afwreck, Purple TrainWreck, Purple OG Kush and Sour Diesel. Thanks again.
Peace, jethead
 
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