Vegan Organic Green Crack = Vegan Crack
- Thread starter Matt Rize
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mrorganics
Active Member
Great lookin grow man and awesome tunes.
mrorganics
Active Member
Hey I read on u n kushmans site that you don't need to flush using veganics. My question is using the general organics line which is veganic except the fish, and growing in fox farm ocean forest do I need to flush because I've been using my nutes on heavy but going 2 feedings to 1 straight water with no burn I'm thinking I can just feed only till harvest and get away with it and some great tasting shit?
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
First off I have to say that you are referring to his site. I'm not his partner, he really needs to change that.
Flush is a funny term so I want to use more specific language. I use plain, pH adjusted, water the last week to 14 days depending on the flower cycle length. Even with my plant based (vegan organic) nutes. I'm a big fan of advanced yellowing by harvest, a controversial topic.
mrorganics
Active Member
Haha I just visited it the other day and you were mentioned sorry man...lookin for a new partner? I'm just jokin but I do wanna pack up my bags and growtent and head out to cali this winter or new mexico, I like the weight your allowed legally in nm its more inline with my goals lol. And that's cool I asked another forum guy the same question cuz he uses GO and he said about the same thing so thanks man. And when u say to 28th that's the day your girls are on? I also wanna bring up something I saw on the site about yield being comparable to hydro cuz of the nutrient availability. With your experience (I'm assuming you have a bunch) how does bud size and overall yield compare between the 2? People are always bashing yield on organics, personally I grew organic cuz I don't think I have ever had organic pot and I really wanted to try it and its so easy, I'm just wondering about the yield? Oh and one more thing sorry I'm rambling but do you know the diff between the cannabio line and general organics? Would it be worth the money to get the canna line or would my grow be too similar to justify spending the extra moolah? If you don't want me to ask questions like this on ur journal let me know. Thanks a lot man
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
hey, ask ?s all day. I love it.
GO and Biocanna are pretty different. GO and BioBizz are practically the same. I can't say whether it's worth it until i do a a side by side GO versus Biocanna. For now I'm biocanna because my garden is pretty small and I'm not spending too much per round.
I find that organic yields are less than chem, but the quality if hands down better.
I say 28th, that means the date. I started flower on the 1st to make it easy. Almost done! I have pics to upload! 40 days in on a 45 to 50 day strain.
growsho
Member
Everything looks great man, I'm just starting my first grow and want to acquire any and all information I can, haha. Since you said you like being asked questions, I'll ask one. Could you explain your "chiropractic" techniques for me, and maybe give me a picture of what the knots look like next time you're taking some photos? I definitely want to start experimenting with some sativas in the future but am kind of afraid of the height, this seems like it might be a good way to keep them down instead of topping/fimming.
keep it up
keep it up
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
the knots are a common stress training technique. you break the inner part of the stems, without damaging the outer. the plant then overcompensates for the damage, and repairs itself stronger than before, many times stronger. I usually do this right below my lollipop (the top part of the branch where the flowers will grow). I also top/fim. I do both, topping early, then breaking to make knots slowly until 2 weeds into flower. The fimming creates more leaders, the chiropractic knots are after the fimming to increase the strength of the plants structure. I'm hoping to find a happy medium with this training and topping to the point where I won't have to stake and tomato cage the plants to hold the buds up.Everything looks great man, I'm just starting my first grow and want to acquire any and all information I can, haha. Since you said you like being asked questions, I'll ask one. Could you explain your "chiropractic" techniques for me, and maybe give me a picture of what the knots look like next time you're taking some photos? I definitely want to start experimenting with some sativas in the future but am kind of afraid of the height, this seems like it might be a good way to keep them down instead of topping/fimming.
keep it up
growsho
Member
Alright sweet thanks, I'll have to give it a try. I guess I just don't know if I like the idea of topping/fimming, I obviously plan to experiment with it before coming to a conclusion, but want to find alternatives to compare it to. I think I read somewhere that topping doesn't make new colas but rather allows the lower branches to grow upwards more, so even though those buds are a little bigger you have still lost your potent main cola. Any thoughts on this? I feel like I might be making this up, haha, what have you found in your experiences with topping? I have a 4'x4'x7' high tent, but only a single 600w ballast for now so I think once I start growing sativas some training might be required because of the reduced light penetration.
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upthearsenal
Well-Known Member
So is it better to suppercrop at a higher internode? What I noticed with one of my sativas was that when I did it on the lower part of a long branch (10in+) it didn't seem to work as well. I got a nice knot but maybe it would support the bud better if it was closer I suppose. I've never done it in flowering though, only mid to late veg.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
This green crack is heavy indica, short and squat. So there wasn't too many choices in terms of where I could train. Right below the buds is where I like to, but on the taller plants, you can increase the strength all the way down. You have to do the training early enough, once the stems get too old they don't like to form knuckles. And too young they won't knuckle either. Dude, killer looking grow journal.
upthearsenal
Well-Known Member
Right on, thanks man. I guess I sort of figured that, still need more practice with this technique and my particular strains. and thanks for the compliment, means a lot.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
More than halfway thru harvest. Looking really nice. I'll post a crap ton of pics asap. I grew this in reaction to PM issues last round. That means instead of growing one huge cola per 6 branches, I instead grew 4 or five popcorn buds on 12ish branches. I have seen ZERO PM. This round is being harvested over the course of almost a week... and it's taking forever because of the structure. Day 47 she was at my personal peak. The trichomes had just started showing up amber instead of cloudy. Now, day 50, she is uber oily and about 20% amber trichome heads. The hash is going to be excellent, I can tell already.
upthearsenal
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Happy 420 Matt, hope yours was a good one.
mrorganics
Active Member
Can't wait for pics man, it already looks really oily in the pic at the top of this page, do you dry branches or entire plant, what's your harvest teqniques and dry/cure times and do you trim pre or post dry?
mrorganics
Active Member
on discovery? And ive I've never had bubble hash should I buy some bags? Are they worth it for smaller grows like mine?