bro.. they vegged under a T-5 6 lamp shop light, for a couple-few months and thats where they are now.... i didnt keep track cuz i only have 1 HPS atm and shes not done flowering so i had to keep them under the other light til i cut this big bitch down... but they are just going to BE WAY BIGGER, sister said 1 hour and shes here so expect pics....