Veg and Flower simultaneously on one bulb.

bigbull52

Active Member
keep reading, you find out that within like 3 days of switching to HPS he switched BACK to CMH because HPS was BURNING HIS PLANTS. nute burn. you shouldnt realy switch from CMH to anything else halfway thru, as he found out the hard way.

Where did he say he switched.. i didnt see that part.
 

jaubry777

Member
Where did he say he switched.. i didnt see that part.

  • Yeah it may come around, I just keep kicking myself in the but for not flushing sooner .. she went from drinking 1.3 gallons of water a day to a half gallon.. roots have been damaged we will see how it go's over the next week if she starts to drink a gallon a day again i will start to intoduce nutrients again but not till she can at least drink her normal amount of water.. also have switched back to ceramic meatal hylide bulb in hopes of healing her..​

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/344359-pineapple-express-g13-labs-seed-19.html
 

jaubry777

Member

  • "I really like CMH.. Plants overall health was better then just using HPS as a matter a fact I had no nute burn till I switched to HPS for a week.. and within 2 days I had some ill looking leaves after running the CMH they are starting to look better.. they also run much cooler then hps.."




 

bigbull52

Active Member
Sorry to say, but i dont believe changing the lights is going to cause NUTE burn.......

maybe light burn...? lol

Keep RIU up to date on the grow..
 

bmeat

New Member
that bulb has a high c.r.i. rating, and a lot of lumen output.

although the color is 4k. i was asking if i could buy 4-5k bulbs for veg and flower, since its between the 2k and 7k spectrum and was called a moron becuase of it.

obviously it works, but do you think results would be better with two bulbs from the two extremes of the spectrum?
 

bmeat

New Member
There is no such thing as full spectrum light with artificial lighting, only broad spectrum.

No single bulb of any sort is capable of emitting full spectrum.
HPS or MH are fine for all stages of growth.

Cheers and happy growing
except for led, which uses different color temp bulbs in one unit.
 

Bigby

Well-Known Member
u can call tech support and have an actual conversation with Tom Lordon, he runs that side of their business. real answers from a dude who has a $300,000 light spectrometer and ample time to do research on nothing more than GOOD lighting for people who need it.
A dude who is trying to build a business. You seem very trusting of what he says, and very dismissive and arrogant towards what anyone else says against it.

If the "research has already been done" then why did you start this thread? Were you simply trolling? And if you believe it works with such confidence, why are you baiting people and arguing against them? Again, just looks like trolling to me.
 

jaubry777

Member
except for led, which uses different color temp bulbs in one unit.
led is just a headache in my opinion, unless each diode is individually wired, if one goes out all the diodes along that strip go out. and then what, you gotta send your light in for repair? Ceramic Metal Halide is nice because it stays cooler. with just a lil fan i have temps of 75 degrees and 60-70% humidity. the company i order bulbs from is only company to pre burn every bulb, and theyre warrantied for 18 months. very handy.
 

jaubry777

Member
A dude who is trying to build a business. You seem very trusting of what he says, and very dismissive and arrogant towards what anyone else says against it.

If the "research has already been done" then why did you start this thread? Were you simply trolling? And if you believe it works with such confidence, why are you baiting people and arguing against them? Again, just looks like trolling to me.

lmao hes already got a well established business run by his father. he runs the horticulture side of it. check em out they are actually truly legit and only concerned with results and people like us. ive had 2 hour long conversations with the man and he's awesome.


should be more than obvious this thread was started to share a concept. something that is being done right now. not here to defend the bulb or what i know works. nobody bothered to reply on the concept they just started attacking the light. great job folks!
 

bmeat

New Member
LEDs are lots of smaller lights. Does not count..

Thats the same as a 4 way splitter using 3-1 5000k-2700k.. the "LAMP" is a "Full spectrum lamp"
i hear ya..lets say i have 6 bulb spots. i run 4 daylights and 2 soft white in veg, and then vice versa in flower.

still though, whats the deal with 4-5k!?

"that bulb has a high c.r.i. rating, and a lot of lumen output.

although the color is 4k. i was asking if i could buy 4-5k bulbs for veg and flower, since its right in the middle of the spectrum, and was called a moron for asking.

obviously it works, but do you think results would be better with two bulbs from the two extremes of the spectrum?"
 

jaubry777

Member
i hear ya..lets say i have 6 bulb spots. i run 4 daylights and 2 soft white in veg, and then vice versa in flower.

still though, whats the deal with 4-5k!?

"that bulb has a high c.r.i. rating, and a lot of lumen output.

although the color is 4k. i was asking if i could buy 4-5k bulbs for veg and flower, since its right in the middle of the spectrum, and was called a moron for asking.

obviously it works, but do you think results would be better with two bulbs from the two extremes of the spectrum?"
lemme first say bmeat, u and i seem to have a lot in common on this site and i dunno y u have such a hated reputation. your comments are much appreciated! i dunno too much about the technical side of lumens or 4-5k, 10k etc... what i can tell you is that you should look into alternating lights. if you've seen any of the heath robinson style setups with multiple lights hanging next to (not above) the plants, people do some amazing things have one set of lights stay on the full 12 hours, and having 1 extra set of lights that comes on for the first 6 of those twelve hours on one side of the plant, and another set of lights hanging directly opposite that the other side of the plant that come on for the last 6 of 12 hours. helps to stimulate auxins like a mofo and ive been wanting to experiment with a single plant cfl setup in my fireplace.
 

jaubry777

Member
I forgot that science isn't universal.
i forgot you could talk to plants cuz you're god. obviously you know exactly what and when they like! why is someone like you even on this site? should be making millions off your ultimate grow guide.
 

bigbull52

Active Member
lemme first say bmeat, u and i seem to have a lot in common on this site and i dunno y u have such a hated reputation. your comments are much appreciated! i dunno too much about the technical side of lumens or 4-5k, 10k etc... what i can tell you is that you should look into alternating lights. if you've seen any of the heath robinson style setups with multiple lights hanging next to (not above) the plants, people do some amazing things have one set of lights stay on the full 12 hours, and having 1 extra set of lights that comes on for the first 6 of those twelve hours on one side of the plant, and another set of lights hanging directly opposite that the other side of the plant that come on for the last 6 of 12 hours. helps to stimulate auxins like a mofo and ive been wanting to experiment with a single plant cfl setup in my fireplace.
Sorry, but this statement right here showed me how dumb this post is...

Your trying to grow weed and dont even no what 5000k is in reference too...?

Good luck...
 

GOD HERE

Well-Known Member
i forgot you could talk to plants cuz you're god. obviously you know exactly what and when they like! why is someone like you even on this site? should be making millions off your ultimate grow guide.
I would, but playing with little trolls like you is too fun.
 

navyfighter04

Active Member
lemme first say bmeat, u and i seem to have a lot in common on this site and i dunno y u have such a hated reputation. your comments are much appreciated! i dunno too much about the technical side of lumens or 4-5k, 10k etc...

OMG...you are just like bmeat. STUPID...and you admit it. You obviuosly have no fucking clue...we didnt need you to tell that to us. See what happens when you come on here acting like an ass. I hope you continue to use bmeats advice so you plants look like his....E.G.

You start this thread to ask about MH lights and a setup. WHY??? You were completely set on these lights and this set up well before you started it. Not to mention you claim you did all the research, but then say you dont no about lumens...... Then you say go ahead and call the company. HAA. They will tell you what you want to hear to get you to buy their product. Treat others on the site like shit, and see what you get. A hijacked thread where no one answers. The only reason you agree with bmaet is because no one else agrees with you. Dont you wonder why everyone is telling you one thing and repeats it. We do know what we are talking about and you obviously dont. please buy this light, build this set-up, and take bmeats advice...You deserve it buddy. And if its such a good set up, then show us pics of your friends set up and yield from his grow....proof is everything....
 

navyfighter04

Active Member
led is just a headache in my opinion, unless each diode is individually wired, if one goes out all the diodes along that strip go out. and then what, you gotta send your light in for repair? Ceramic Metal Halide is nice because it stays cooler. with just a lil fan i have temps of 75 degrees and 60-70% humidity. the company i order bulbs from is only company to pre burn every bulb, and theyre warrantied for 18 months. very handy.

Diodes are placed on the Cathode side of an LED, so EVERY LED on the panel has a diode. If one went out, it wouldnt put them all out. Shows how little you really know..
 
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