various probs

Hi im new to forums in general.
im using 600w d/spectrum air cooled lamp in 1.4mtr tent (light-16/. This is stored in a small room with no ventilation/window. I have cut a hole in wall and am drawing air from another room. i have a small oscilating fan and used a humidifier in early stages of seedling to before early flowering.

Basically i followed a guide on humidity keeping within humidity levels.Switched to a dehumidifier during flowering to keep humidity levels more stable as plants were maturing. Ocasionally the humidity fell to 30.My tempreture is 85-98 farenhite (30-34 deg). nutriants used were ionics.

feed program was started on
1/4 strength and worked up to full strength by week 3 then on to full bloom. Added stims as recomended twice per week to the feed

problem 1
im growing 20 lowriders(white russian).
which have all stunted growth and leaves turned yellow and dyeing. I relised here that i screwed the nuts up for theese. im using ripen to try save something but think they are facked. im into week 8 and have around 1-2 weeks left.
Picture 1-4 is of lowriders- please someone advise whether to dump them or keep them.They are begining to show crystals now.

During week 3 i re-planted 3 into big 3 gal buckets and fed them every second day with 1 litre of ionic grow and stim mixed to manufact grow chart then on to flowering feed. No problems here- Now into week 8 and trychomes/crystals are massive.
picture 5-7 is of 3gal lowriders- please advise on health of this plant as buds look wispy.


Now the main one. I got swiss outdoor seeds given and tried to grow them.
I have 3 in 3 gal pots and we dont know squat about them. They have been veging for 9 weeks and are 6-12inches from light and showing no signs of white hair. Leaves are turning yellow browning and drying up on lower half of plant and dying. Other than that when i first spotted it i flushed plant with plain 6.5 ph water. I then went back to just under full strength grow nuitriant. i add grow stim to feed twice a week(10mls per 10 ltr).

picture 8-11 is of swiiss planties.please advise

My lowriders are on week 8 and have around 10-14 days to go. Should i wait and after lowriders are complete then change from 16/8 to 12/12 for the swiss.
Anyone please advise on pictures above as all info would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks from a depressed grower
ps I know the pots with lr's in it are small but my mate has same size of pot and his are the nearly the same size as my big ones.


Required info for feeding with nuits
pots are 8" and filled with a good mixed dutch soil and permalite - After making up the nuit mix,-How many mls do you feed each pot.
I have Ionics grow bloom and boost
and their root,grow,bloom stims to go with them also per the Ionic grow chart i have Nytrozyme and silicon and superthrive.
I have studied the chart and i dont know if im misunderstanding something
but my plants are drooping and withering into 8th week of veg.Some leaves are turning yellow and dying from bottom to middle of plant but pre flowering looks good all over. I flushed plant with 6.5 ph water
for 3 days (fed twice water in this period).Then went back to grow chart and reduced amounts slightly
and checked ph and all was fine. again the leaves seem to be dying quicker now. Im feeding around a ltr per 4 gal bucket of soil,(stims added to feed twice a week) under a 600w cooled light in a 1.4mtr tent with ventilation.Have kept within humidity
levels right through but temps have been between 87-98 deg. Have had to feed them each day when lights come on (18/6) to stop soil drying out to bone dry levels and stop humidity droping to low. also using a tower fan to try cool tent but is a bit strong, so have used a small oscilating fan to move the air in tent. Urgently need advice.
Photo's attached.

holy shit that is alot to read and try to help you with. I can try but it is gonna take a while. off the bat sounds like your nute levels were to high to begin with.

cheers for the help here.

I have raised my lights to the max.
I used a 24 hour flush on them for 2 days last week then reduced nuit levels slightly
My LR's are on ripen and only have 17 days left (pics 1-4) started ripen on 25/12. Crowns have started to pick up a bit but leaves are fucked.There is some new growth appearing.So i think you are corect i will get a little from those.

AS for Pics 5-7 they at moment are on 1 ltr bloom/boost (no stims)They were due for stims today but i have not done this and as you advise Do you reckon just flush with ph water for last 14-17 days.(theese look good in 4gal buckets.mix is 50mls bloom and 10 mls boost per 10 ltr.

And Pics 8-11 LoL, Yeah i know they are big. At present cant do much about changing my light to 12/12 as the LR'S have two weeks left. I will bend them over with some weights. What ratio of nutes do you recomend for theese swiss when i flower them if i start feeding them with just ph water for two weeks.i only have ionics.

Sorry if im repeating myself but just getting it straight in my hashead.

Thanks for the help

5-7 - yes flush-see about maybe adding molasses to the water-cut all nutes/stims

8-11-I wouldnt bend them or stress them at all before flowering, considering u have 600 watts so u should have enough lumens-use the same nutes for now but do back off the ppms-switch to bloom in 2-3 weeks-maybe a little sooner-back off the stims as well- I would not not nute them-they are going to need- you can flush before the real bloom cycle begins-

bro u gott a do something with this heat-it is killing u-and what is ur humidity? I think you said you have a humidifer but it could be making things worse-what r u using to measure the RH?

the tips are curling because your plants are getting so dried out due to the high temperatures and low humidity. Its pretty amazing that your plants have survived this long in those conditions. With that said, I wouldn't make any drastic changes because that will clearly stress the plants too much. If you can keep your temperatures at 85 I think you'll be just fine.

maybe you could have learned the basics of keeping a plant alive before u started ur major operation

well Im gonna give u a +rep for those realtively unaffected girls and an E for effort.

seriously.. how do u fuck up a lowryder cross lmao

just what we need...a low poster being a dick.

yeah just what we need, a new grower growing too many plants than they can cope with then coming here and asking us to clean up his big pile of unresearched shit!!!

ive had better results on a fucking windowsill

damn dude, chill the flock out. he asked for help, that's all. did ur mama teach u if u aint got anything good to say than dont say anything at all?
he has had to done quite a bit of reasearch he just missed one of the most critical steps-heat and humidity. that's all. sure it is a big one. and personally I dont see how he missed it. just no need to tee off on him. think about it. he has a failed crop. he has some new ones that could turn out nice. he needs encouragement not disregard.

yeah she did teach me that but she also taught me to grow only a few easy to grow plants at first and then move up to bigger things gradually

i'll put money on it that its the de-humidifier causing 99% of the problems

fo sho, coupled with the 100 degree mohava desert heat. did she really teach u to only grow a few plants?

yeah i learned everything from my hippy mom and dad

pepsicola -piss off or be helpfull! As for learning to grow a plant first. THIS IS IT... A PRACTICE RUN before i do a whole basement.(got to learn to walk before i run) But Thanks for nout

right back to reality LOL.

Cheers Smokeybandit 22

What is ppms mean?
The swiss ones i will flush in a weeks time with phd water or 24hour flush but how long will i flush them for before going to bloom.

Im using a thermo hygrometer to measure temp/rh
The humidifier can be set to 40/50 or at 60 rh. But not sure about using this.(i did at the start when my humidity was at 20 when i first set up).

Checked plants today - The small LR's are begining to glisten which im amazed at them recovering.This ripen must be workin.The big ones (3) at least those are putting a smile on my face. The swiss plants smaller leaves are turning yellow which i presume is the heat/humidity- so i raised the humidity a bit last night went up to 48 when lights on and 78 when lights went off.But they look big and mostly healthy. Will watch the yellowing on theese to see if improves.
Have managed to get heat down to around 88-90 when i leave top of tent open and tower fan on full and plants moved well forward.

Anyway Thanks again and again.

When my LR's are out im moving tent to big room with window and will add another intake fan to suck in the fresh air.May add an exhaust fan at top to extract heat- what do you think. question- can i put those swiss under an envirolight while i move setup (around 1hour) then move them back.

Thanks man i hope you have a great new year. Now for us scottish we are off to party.
Will get back in the early newyear and let you know how its going.

ppm's + parts per milliom of total disolved salts-check ur nute level-mostly for hydro but a good ppm meter is always helful-or at least a cheap digital one for 45.00

u say the swiss plant smaller leaves-do you mean on top of bottom of plant?
u wanna flush according to the flushing rules and immediately follow up with 1/4 dosage feeding when completed with flush. I would keep them on the veg nutes dialed back to 1/2 and slowly start adding the bloom nutes at 1/4 and work ur way up while working way down on veg nutes during forst three weeks. they cant be wihtout food for too long. if u r watering everyday b/c of the heat make sure u r nuting only every 3rd time-can alternate between 2 and 3 times.
def an exhaust fan will help. fresh air is also very important. if I can make a suggestion, it may be worth your effort and 150.00 to buy a co2 tank and regulator and use this to help the plants thrive better in this heat.
she can actually put the plants in 24 hours of darkness before u flower but a couple hours with out light is more than fine.
and I would suggest doing some more research on controlling ur humidity to combat the heat. the air can hold more moisture with higher temps so i would be switching those humbers u have for RH and get it to 60 or higher during the day and 60 or lower at night.

post som epics of those yellow leafs on the swiss ones as this is the most crucuial time in it's life. also, u should really take some nice healthy clones from them-they can give up about 5 each or more and u should be able to get at least 1/4 to grow. clones require very little of anything for 2 -3 weeks and basically maintenance free.

if u bloom these gals right u can easily make up for what the Lr's did not yield.

ignore my advice on Rh levels-keep what u have-too high with the heat will do more damage