Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

I've witnessed real miracles happen, right in front of my very eyes, the very second I questioned god of his existence. Things I wouldn't expect anyone to believe, except a few friends who seen it too. I've seen real demons. The devil himself (probably a projection of my own demons at the time) manifest right in the middle of the room, through a portal.

I never will again, or have a need to question any of it, or the existence of a supreme being that loves us. I've attained supernatural powers at times, especially when protecting my children, when I asked for it the most. Life is amazing, and I know without a doubt that there is a force that will protect you, especially when you stand up for innocent people and children. I appreciate this god so much, and know that everything will work out exactly the way it does for a reason most cannot comprehend.

I barely ever went to church, or have I read the Bible in its entirety BTW. I wouldn't consider myself religeous, but I beleive in god, and Christ like consciousness.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Describing yourself as a Christian means you believe in supernatural beings, magical thinking, atheists believe in natural explanations for phenomena. Morality or ethics is not derived from religion, but from civil society, the basic rules are the same across cultures and religions. It was the arising of civil society that civilized Christians, or they would still be burning people at the stake.

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Atheism and materialistic humanism/rationalism don’t quite map together. Lotta atheists read horoscopes.

cannabineer said:

actually, gun violence is 15x gun defense

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Actually, there is no empirical data on defense, only estimates. I assume you are using the low parameter of 500k defensive uses per year.

High end is 3+ million per year. Likely much higher.

Let people believe what they want to believe, I'm all good with that. I don't really judge anyone for anything. Not even those pushing an evil vaccine agenda, and targeting children for profits.. I'm not even really bothered by the rampant crime, or even people with guns anymore. Or anything of that nature, especially death. There is literally a bubble of protection surrounding me, thanks to god. Everything is perfectly balanced, and by grand design. I know darkness will never overcome the light, and accept both sides at most times, as I strive to balance myself everyday.

Like cockroach, I know my bloodline will be around, even while many die off from radioactive nuclear waste, which they can't seem to clean up properly. Pumping kids full of expiriments against the sniffles seems to be more important than the larger issues at hand..

cannabineer said:

Atheism and materialistic humanism/rationalism don’t quite map together. Lotta atheists read horoscopes.

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Do they believe horoscopes though?
Without getting into semantics, when someone describes themselves as an atheist, they eschew belief all supernatural phenomena, even things like luck or fate are described as probabilities. There are atheist and secular humanist, agnostics too, atheists who are "spiritual", but who have recontextualized the meaning away from the supernatural. There is a spectrum of traditional nonbelievers these days, not all of them are rational, just not as conditioned as they once were in the past, when alternative explanations were fewer and less accessible. The social support the internet and social media provide works for atheists, LGBTQ and other minorities, as well as for conspiracy theorists

ActionianJacksonian said:

Actually, there is no empirical data on defense, only estimates. I assume you are using the low parameter of 500k defensive uses per year.

High end is 3+ million per year. Likely much higher.

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No.

Drop That Sound said:

There is literally a bubble of protection surrounding me, thanks to god.

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What is the test protocol to verify/falsify that proposition?

cannabineer said:

What is the test protocol to verify/falsify that proposition?

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One must deviate from the protocol to obtain such a circular cloud of judgement that surrounds them.

Drop That Sound said:

One must deviate from the protocol to obtain such a circular cloud of judgement that surrounds them.

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If yer dancing and gesticulating wildly stark naked while ranting like a madman its gonna draw a crowd in the real world, and those surrounding you are gonna judge you to be nuts. As it is in reality, let be so here, Amen.

Sooner or later the cops are gonna show up and drag ya away...

Drop That Sound said:

One must deviate from the protocol to obtain such a circular cloud of judgement that surrounds them.

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nice to see you admitting that religious faith is, at day’s end, a circular cloud of judgment.

cannabineer said:

No.

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Yes.

Those are the numbers from the 2013 study ordered by the CDC and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council.

There are others of course.

Remember that little meme going around a few years back :
"You're 60 times more likely kill or injure yourself or a family member with a gun in your home than stop a criminal"?

It's from memory so I'm sure I didn't get it exactly right.

That study included suicides which it admitted should not be counted and called for data on defensive uses to be included later.

If you remove the suicide and include the defensive data it should read something like:

"You're 700 billion Jillian times more likely to stop a criminal in your home than injure yourself or a family member".

@hanimmal
@Fogdog
maybe a year ago, one of you posted numbers that ran roughly:

suicides by gun 29 thousand
deaths by gun violence, about the same
defensive use gun deaths about 1800

got the reference handy? Thanks

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@hanimmal
@Fogdog
maybe a year ago, one of you posted numbers that ran roughly:

suicides by gun 29 thousand
deaths by gun violence, about the same
defensive use gun deaths about 1800

got the reference handy? Thanks

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Not me man sorry.

cannabineer said:

@hanimmal
@Fogdog
maybe a year ago, one of you posted numbers that ran roughly:

suicides by gun 29 thousand
deaths by gun violence, about the same
defensive use gun deaths about 1800

got the reference handy? Thanks

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You're only focused on death, how dark.

I have used a firearm defensively 3 times. One was reported, 2 were not. Noone died. I should have killed one, he had a sccy pointed at my face, but I'm not a killer. He looked very scared and when confronted with the same he ran.

ActionianJacksonian said:

You're only focused on death, how dark.

I have used a firearm defensively 3 times. One was reported, 2 were not. Noone died. I should have killed one, he had a sccy pointed at my face, but I'm not a killer. He looked very scared and when confronted with the same he ran.

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I’m not a killer either, but if someone had a gat in my face… I’d smoke em’ I know some of you big town people don’t have experience with handling guns on a daily basis, but rest assured, if you’re in a grocery store, or restaurant, 8 out of 10 are packin’ I think this is why our gun violence is lower than most. We can open carry, but nobody does. This keeps the mystery open to would be criminals. They have an 80% chance of dying.

ActionianJacksonian said:

You're only focused on death, how dark.

I have used a firearm defensively 3 times. One was reported, 2 were not. Noone died. I should have killed one, he had a sccy pointed at my face, but I'm not a killer. He looked very scared and when confronted with the same he ran.

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I do not recall if it was deaths or deaths+injuries.

what is a sccy?

cannabineer said:

I do not recall if it was deaths or deaths+injuries.

what is a sccy?

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It’s a 9mm and .380 gun company.

DoubleAtotheRON said:

It’s a 9mm

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Huh. Never heard of it.
Then again, I stopped paying attention around ‘03. Revolvers were more my thing; no brass loss issues at the range, and they shot an amazing range of loads that would give an autoloader indigestion.