Va. brings back Confederate month after 8 years.

CrackerJax

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MLK would bitch slap Rev. Wright up and down the aisle of his church.....

Tell me I'm wrong......

If you are following Wright... you are NOT following King.

Farrakhan Jackson, Wright, all in direct opposition to the "dream" ... pssssttt....and they KNOW it too.

MLK was indeed a great man.....one of our very best. His legacy...his dream has been subverted and turned into something King would not recognize nor approve of.

They have killed Kings dream...and destroyed the blacks BEST chance.
 

londonfog

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MLK would bitch slap Rev. Wright up and down the aisle of his church.....

Tell me I'm wrong......

If you are following Wright... you are NOT following King.

Farrakhan Jackson, Wright, all in direct opposition to the "dream" ... pssssttt....and they KNOW it too.

MLK was indeed a great man.....one of our very best. His legacy...his dream has been subverted and turned into something King would not recognize nor approve of.

They have killed Kings dream...and destroyed the blacks BEST chance.
Actually King believed in the non-violent approach, so no he would not have bitch slapped anyone. It amazes me that you can even comment on what King would have done...It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt Abraham Lincoln
 

medicineman

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It's pretty clear after reading this whole thread there is a divide, I'm guessing it is still North VS south. Must be a lot of Southerners on this site, but come on now, even a blind person could see the civil war was basically fought over slavery. Having to give up ones free labor, which must have been very profitable to slave owners, who By The Way, were the leading figures of Southern government in those years, Would most certainly be met with resistance, even leading to seccession, and ultimately war. It was definently about the Benjamins. Southerners in general were pretty fed up with the northern states bullying them over commodities prices, and once secession had been declared, they willingly joined the confederate Army. Brother against brother, it was a sad state of affairs.
 

ink the world

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I dont care why people think we fought the war, i dont care about the whole "racial" issues either.

I grew up in New England, and have traveled and spent time all over the country. I notice 1 difference and someone correct me if Im wrong please, but it seems like some in the South still believe the war rages on. Most of the people up here never talk about the civil war and when they do it is more like "what a shame, brother fighting brother" Its looked on as a sad part of our history. People in the South seem to take some kind of pride in the Civil War.

I dont understand why people would celebrate getting their asses kicked in a war. Whats the celebration all about?
 

CrackerJax

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Actually King believed in the non-violent approach, so no he would not have bitch slapped anyone. It amazes me that you can even comment on what King would have done...It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt Abraham Lincoln

It's an expression genius. And way to miss the ENTIRE point .... again.
 

londonfog

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It's an expression genius. And way to miss the ENTIRE point .... again.
Maybe you should have used a better expression...like Dr.King would have took him to "church" for talking like that or Rev.King would have prayed for him for speaking in that manner...using violence in reference to King lets me know YOU don't get the point...
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Again...it's just an expression... :roll:

The point was actually that the black civil right s movement has been hijacked.

Sorry you couldn't follow that simple thought.....
 

fitch303

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I try not to copy and paste articles but cnn had a good relevant story that some of you should enjoy.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/14/rawls.confederate.history/index.html?hpt=C1
Why we should study Confederate history



Richmond, Virginia (CNN) -- "I'm a big history buff," President Obama said in an interview with ABC News" George Stephanopoulos. "And I think that understanding the history of the Confederacy and understanding the history of the Civil War is something that every American and every young American should be part of."
I am sometimes asked the same question that Mr. Stephanopoulos put to President Obama: Why study Confederate history? And I agree with the president's response.
As we approach the 150th anniversary of the Civil War, we look back to its centennial in the 1960s. A lot has happened in this country since then, and our appreciation of the lessons of history has changed with the times.
One constant has been the importance of the Civil War. It remains as the most important era of American history, a time when America withstood its biggest challenges to a constitutional democracy which then was still viewed as an experiment in a new form of government. The crucible of war defined the nation as we know it today, as we became "indivisible" and "with liberty and justice for all" for the first time.
During the 1960s, we Americans looked at the war as it occurred on the battlefields, because the conduct and course of the war dominated every single moment of every day. And the Confederate soldiers have historically captured our fascination even more than the Union soldiers.
Perhaps it is the gallantry and dash of leaders like Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson or J.E.B. Stuart. Or perhaps it was the common enlisted men in the Confederate ranks, whose valor and courage -- in the face of tremendous privation and against overwhelming odds -- makes them stand out in world history as one of the best bodies of soldiers ever known.
If the fascination with soldiers continues from the 1960s to today, what has changed? Today, the study of Confederate history is much more "inclusive" -- to use the word of choice for many state's 150th anniversary commissions -- as we look more deeply into the past. Today we ask different questions of history and I think we get better answers. Let me list just a few of those questions.
What about slavery? We did not talk much about it in the 1960s. Today, we cannot study the Confederacy without studying 40 percent of its population. So now we look long and hard at this aspect of American history, including its existence and importance in the North. We see so clearly today that it was a wrong, so we need to ask why so many people 150 years ago did not see it as wrong and why several of the important Christian denominations split apart over this issue before the country itself split.
What about the slaves themselves? Why did many take advantage of the first opportunity to escape to freedom while others remained "loyal" to the South? And what about the 400,000 African-Americans in the South who were free long before Abraham Lincoln came on the scene?
iReporter: Civil War history could have been "teachable moment"
What about the Southerners who remained loyal to the Union and chose to fight in blue, rather than gray? What about the thousands of immigrants who "escaped" the wars of Europe yet enlisted in both armies to demonstrate their loyalty to their new country?
At the opposite end of the spectrum, what about the Native Americans who had been here long before any Europeans, yet allied with the Confederacy? The last Confederate brigade to surrender was composed entirely of Native Americans and commanded by Brigadier General Stand Watie, a full-blooded Cherokee.
What about the very important Jewish community in the South? Many served in the ranks while others saw civilian service, such as Judah Benjamin, who had three different Cabinet posts, or Phoebe Pember, who became the head nurse at Chimborazo, the biggest hospital in the world.
And what about the women of the South? The war thrust them into new positions of responsibility and many continued after the war to lead public enterprises that engendered self-esteem and respect.
We Americans -- from native Americans to those who have ancestors who wore the blue or gray to those who are descended from slaves to those who have recently come to our shores -- want to know ourselves. We want to understand why our country is different from the others around the world.
This is why millions of Americans read so many books about the Civil War or visit the battlefields or come to museums like The Museum of the Confederacy so that they can see first hand the ingredients that formed us. And this is why so many foreigners come to America to visit those same sites in order to understand why we are who we are.
The fact is that we must know the Civil War if we are to know America. And to know the Civil War, we must know and understand the Confederacy -- in all of its diversity.
 

londonfog

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Again...it's just an expression... :roll:

The point was actually that the black civil right s movement has been hijacked.

Sorry you couldn't follow that simple thought.....
Learn to use the correct expressions when trying to make a point..I gave you examples...


ROFL@ white/pink man telling me that the Civil Rights movement has been hijacked...by who????
 
The Confederate states were fighting for the right to govern themselves ,not just for slavery. Them Democrats should have paid more attention in history class.The bottom line is that in this country you can't be proud off being white without being viewed as racist. Instead we are treated as though we should be ashamed
 

CrackerJax

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The American Civil War was a replication of the American Revolutionary war. It was about taxation and representation and about which were more in control of things..the central power in Washington or the individual states.
The Union was Britain, and the Confederates were the US Colonies.

Britain won this time around and quite obviously KING OBAMA approves... :lol:
 

ink the world

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The Confederate states were fighting for the right to govern themselves ,not just for slavery. Them Democrats should have paid more attention in history class.The bottom line is that in this country you can't be proud off being white without being viewed as racist. Instead we are treated as though we should be ashamed

So this whole thing is about white pride?

I wish someone from the South would answer my original question:

I grew up in New England, and have traveled and spent time all over the country. I notice 1 difference and someone correct me if Im wrong please, but it seems like some in the South still believe the war rages on. Most of the people up here never talk about the civil war and when they do it is more like "what a shame, brother fighting brother" Its looked on as a sad part of our history. People in the South seem to take some kind of pride in the Civil War.

I dont understand why people would celebrate getting their asses kicked in a war. Whats the celebration all about?
 

Mindmelted

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So this whole thing is about white pride?

I wish someone from the South would answer my original question:

I grew up in New England, and have traveled and spent time all over the country. I notice 1 difference and someone correct me if Im wrong please, but it seems like some in the South still believe the war rages on. Most of the people up here never talk about the civil war and when they do it is more like "what a shame, brother fighting brother" Its looked on as a sad part of our history. People in the South seem to take some kind of pride in the Civil War.

I dont understand why people would celebrate getting their asses kicked in a war. Whats the celebration all about?

You are very delusional.

The south did lose but did not get their asses kicked.

They where out gunned and out manned and lasted way longer than the yankee scum thought.
 

ink the world

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LOL, like I said in my earlier post some in the South are STILL fighting the war,, THAT my friend is delusional.

And that still doesnt answer my question, what exactly are you celebrating?
 

Mindmelted

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LOL, like I said in my earlier post some in the South are STILL fighting the war,, THAT my friend is delusional.

And that still doesnt answer my question, what exactly are you celebrating?

You keep saying that idiot.

I am not fighting any war,Just tried of you and your kinds always saying you had slaves and all that bullshit.

Every fucking nation at one time had slaves period :finger::finger::finger::finger:

I think you got to much ink in your stupid head.

You got tats huh,Really original and a individual huh :finger::finger::finger:
 

DocDoom85

Active Member
I'll try to take a stab at it although I'll probably get something wrong.

I'm German and I'm proud of my heritage but sometimes people bring up the nazi thing which is understandable but one could be German and not a nazi just as one could be a confederate and not be racist. Besides, only ill advised people think the civil war was about slaves. Yes AFTER certain things were set in motion did the federal government really start to care about that issue because they knew everyone had a fight with states rights. So they picked the next divisive issue which would guarantee at least half the country would take it's side......slavery.
Im german Two,And very proud Of my hertage,I have famly that fought and died In ww1 ww2 on the german side,Im not a nazi,I have a black GF and jewish freinds,But Alot of times As a child/teen I was branded a NAZi lover cause Of my german Accent (Accents gone Now),german famly,Upsets me very much
 

ink the world

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You keep saying that idiot.

I am not fighting any war,Just tried of you and your kinds always saying you had slaves and all that bullshit.

Every fucking nation at one time had slaves period :finger::finger::finger::finger:

I think you got to much ink in your stupid head.

You got tats huh,Really original and a individual huh :finger::finger::finger:

LOL whats up w/ the insults? I asked a question and you insult me and still never answer the question.

You then use "you and your kind" and "yankee scum" and then even more laughable "saying you had slaves and all that bullshit"

What you so angry about? Losing the war? Because Im "yankee scum?"

Uhmm I NEVER said you had slaves or anyone else. In fact I NEVER even used the word "slavery"or mentioned slavery in a single post.., I actually said in my first post "i dont care about the racial issue"

You then insult me because of my name and my career. Yeah, thats a good one there, I pull in $100 an hour when I tattoo and get 40% from the tattooist and piercer that I employ......I get paid well to do something I love, Im a happy person. .....maybe thats why I can have a discussion without resorting to insults and acting like an angry child.

Read what I actually posted dude, your post about what I said is delusional.
 

londonfog

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Mindmelted has already revealed his true"color". I guess he wants to live in the past..Sorry that time has past my friend.. Come along our get left behind
 
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