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Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I read 78-82F is the temperature to shoot for. I've been putting them in a wet baggie wrapped in paper towel. I get like maybe 1 out of 5 seeds crack and put out the root. I just bought some distilled water, maybe its my tap water pH? I have a bluelab soil ph pen that I can adjust the pH if need be. If I can get them to put out the root, I can get them to take off. Just not sure what it takes to make that happen. I give them a week and check every day, just the seeds don't do anything. I know its something I'm doing wrong, just not sure what. Trying to sprout some Blueberries N Chocolate Feminized btw
 
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NukaKola

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Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I read 78-82F is the temperature to shoot for. I've been putting them in a wet baggie wrapped in paper towel. I get like maybe 1 out of 5 seeds crack and put out the root. I just bought some distilled water, maybe its my tap water pH? I have a bluelab soil ph pen that I can adjust the pH if need be. If I can get them to put out the root, I can get them to take off. Just not sure what it takes to make that happen. I give them a week and check every day, just the seeds don't do anything. I know its something I'm doing wrong, just not sure what. Trying to sprout some Blueberries N Chocolate Feminized btw
I feel like people overcomplicate the germinating process. I literally pop the seeds into 16oz solo cups of coco and have like a 98% success rate. Less is more. I used to fuss with soaking the seeds in shot glasses until they sank or germinating in paper towels etc but I don't think it's necessary.
 

Boosky

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Really?? You want me to pick from 33 cuts ??? OK...top 2 would be Chocolate Diesel and BOO. lol. Apologies,34...forgot about Cherry Pie cut. Dang!!! looked closer an it seems as if I forgot about the Purple Urkle cut,,,,,,so 35....lol. Please stop asking me........hahaha!!!!
Chocolate Cherry Pie? I don't need anymore seeds right now but I will buy this if released, for sure!
 
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Boosky

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Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I read 78-82F is the temperature to shoot for. I've been putting them in a wet baggie wrapped in paper towel. I get like maybe 1 out of 5 seeds crack and put out the root. I just bought some distilled water, maybe its my tap water pH? I have a bluelab soil ph pen that I can adjust the pH if need be. If I can get them to put out the root, I can get them to take off. Just not sure what it takes to make that happen. I give them a week and check every day, just the seeds don't do anything. I know its something I'm doing wrong, just not sure what. Trying to sprout some Blueberries N Chocolate Feminized btw
Scuff 'em first.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Thank you for responding. I'm gonna do this, but I don't want to order a bunch of sizes that will not sell.
Also that.... adult size large.

Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I read 78-82F is the temperature to shoot for. I've been putting them in a wet baggie wrapped in paper towel. I get like maybe 1 out of 5 seeds crack and put out the root. I just bought some distilled water, maybe its my tap water pH? I have a bluelab soil ph pen that I can adjust the pH if need be. If I can get them to put out the root, I can get them to take off. Just not sure what it takes to make that happen. I give them a week and check every day, just the seeds don't do anything. I know its something I'm doing wrong, just not sure what. Trying to sprout some Blueberries N Chocolate Feminized btw
I feel like people overcomplicate the germinating process. I literally pop the seeds into 16oz solo cups of coco and have like a 98% success rate. Less is more. I used to fuss with soaking the seeds in shot glasses until they sank or germinating in paper towels etc but I don't think it's necessary.
I second this... keep it simple. I use rapid rooters in a small humidity tray and have a near 100% success rate. The whole soak, then paper towel then plant thing has always seemed to be too many steps to me, and having to handle the seed after the taproot comes out is just asking for trouble... grab some plugs or stick em straight in the medium with a cup over them until they crack

If you are gonna stick to the paper towel method, make sure it's damp, not wet. You can drown seeds.
 
Must be I've been drowning them. I'll try the rapid rooters. I have to treat all my water (with a little vinegar) as the pH is around 8. Should I aim for 6.5 pH like I do with my mature plants (in soil)? I bought some distilled in case my water is the culprit. Its got a lot of calcium and iron bacteria from a well and the system exchanges it for sodium and chlorinates it (and then removes the chlorine), and the sodium ppm is up there (not sure exactly). Also my house is in the 67-72F and around 30% humidity this time of year. Should I do something artificial or can they grow ok in that? Thanks for all the replies guys, I appreciate the help!!
 

Useful Seeds

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Sorry, wasnt meaning to put you on the spot. I always like to hear what people like about certain cuts. I blame it on the bubba. I wasnt trying to be intrusive
I know you weren't being intrusive my friend. Nor put me on the spot, it's just tough to pick...lol. I have all of them for good reasons.

Chocolate Cherry Pie? I don't need anymore seeds right now but I will buy this if released, for sure!
Yep, that will be a nice one.

I don't expect to see it done but, shirt size large tall.
Shirts were ordered today actually :bigjoint: My Etsy store will be UsefulGear. I'm getting it all set up.
 

NukaKola

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Must be I've been drowning them. I'll try the rapid rooters. I have to treat all my water (with a little vinegar) as the pH is around 8. Should I aim for 6.5 pH like I do with my mature plants (in soil)? I bought some distilled in case my water is the culprit. Its got a lot of calcium and iron bacteria from a well and the system exchanges it for sodium and chlorinates it (and then removes the chlorine), and the sodium ppm is up there (not sure exactly). Also my house is in the 67-72F and around 30% humidity this time of year. Should I do something artificial or can they grow ok in that? Thanks for all the replies guys, I appreciate the help!!
I use tap for the first 2 weeks without any ph'ing or adding nutrients and never had any problems. My tap is 440ppm and over 8PH, I use it in my aero cloner as well. I also don't use a humidity dome, it is hard to maintain a target RH without fluctuation. I run the room 80-85F & 70% RH. Overwatering and damping-off is likely your issue. That is why a very porous medium such as coco, rapid rooters, or promix hp (peat/perlite) are great for starting seeds. Avoid moisture-retaining mediums like dense soils or rockwool unless you are experienced using them.
 

ChrispyCritter

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Large to X-large depending on the maker and materials... I like 'em roomy!

And, great idea on not making them scream weed, I can't wear any of the GLG shirts in public, lol!
I don't want to wear something that looks like it came from that kiosk at the mall that sells the t-shirts and hoodies with GIANT pot leaves or Got Pot? on them. These wil be cool and clever. Only those who know will know!
 

Useful Seeds

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I don't want to wear something that looks like it came from that kiosk at the mall that sells the t-shirts and hoodies with GIANT pot leaves or Got Pot? on them. These wil be cool and clever. Only those who know will know!
I'm with ya !!! That's why I decided to go this route. We will see how this goes, looking at the possibility of hoodies and baseball caps down the road. Also gonna look into price on ground shipping with tracking, that way if ya ordered a shirt I could throw ya in one of these cool Useful Seeds Bic lighters for free.
Lighters.JPG
 

Rurumo

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Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these? Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I read 78-82F is the temperature to shoot for. I've been putting them in a wet baggie wrapped in paper towel. I get like maybe 1 out of 5 seeds crack and put out the root. I just bought some distilled water, maybe its my tap water pH? I have a bluelab soil ph pen that I can adjust the pH if need be. If I can get them to put out the root, I can get them to take off. Just not sure what it takes to make that happen. I give them a week and check every day, just the seeds don't do anything. I know its something I'm doing wrong, just not sure what. Trying to sprout some Blueberries N Chocolate Feminized btw
Lots of terrible germination info out there, esp "the paper towel method." I like root riot cubes a lot if you are using trays/heat mats-but keep an eye on your temps if you use a mat, even with a thermostat. This will get you on the right track https://www.mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Germination-Guide
 

Useful Seeds

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Must be I've been drowning them. I'll try the rapid rooters. I have to treat all my water (with a little vinegar) as the pH is around 8. Should I aim for 6.5 pH like I do with my mature plants (in soil)? I bought some distilled in case my water is the culprit. Its got a lot of calcium and iron bacteria from a well and the system exchanges it for sodium and chlorinates it (and then removes the chlorine), and the sodium ppm is up there (not sure exactly). Also my house is in the 67-72F and around 30% humidity this time of year. Should I do something artificial or can they grow ok in that? Thanks for all the replies guys, I appreciate the help!!
I appreciate the support, and am saddened you are having issues with germination. While most breeders shun discussing poor germ rates "it must be your fault", I look at it in a different light. I can't germ test EVERY seed, if I did I would have none to sell.....lol. Even if it was an issue on your end, no one will ever know !!! I want you to grow my seeds, I want you to experience the Blueberries n Chocolate.And after you get to enjoy the Blueberries n Chocolate, maybe you will purchase a pack of something else. Everyone here knows that I genuinely care about them, and know that I appreciate them giving up precious garden space to run my gear.

With that said, if you send me a pm I would gladly send ya a 6 pack of replacements if you are in the USA.
 

Rivendell

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Anyone got a foolproof method for germinating these?
I'm a straight into soil kinda guy, and very rarely have a issue with getting seeds to sprout. I have never understood where the soak in a cup of water or in wet paper towels mantra originated from other than possibly trying to sprout significantly older seeds. Seeds are perfectly evolved to sprout in soil, I see no need to override that many years of evolution. Not nocking anyone, just my two cents.
 

mindriot

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I'm a straight into soil kinda guy, and very rarely have a issue with getting seeds to sprout. I have never understood where the soak in a cup of water or in wet paper towels mantra originated from other than possibly trying to sprout significantly older seeds. Seeds are perfectly evolved to sprout in soil, I see no need to override that many years of evolution. Not nocking anyone, just my two cents.
A lot of people run hydro and other soil-less mediums.. we have to circumvent evolution sometimes
 
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meangreengrowinmachine

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I can make that happen, Blue BOO......lol


I know he used to send out some lighters, but told me that he doesn't anymore. Here is the info I have on the lighter topic. Some years ago there was a plane crash due to some faulty lithium batteries. When you go to the post office they ask you if there is anything liquid , fragile, perishable, perfume, mercury, lithium batteries, ect. They ask that because those items are only able to ship ground, not an airplanes. If someone is shipping lighters priority mail and one leaks, or causes an issue they will come for you in a huge way.

I am now looking into making up some vinyl stickers. I know it's not a Bic lighter, but I will come up with something.

Your friend

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What about a like poker for bowls that attaches to lighters or something similar? .. a piece of wood fhe approx. Size of a normal joint with a slightly sharpened point... honestly stickers are cool and all.. but something ... "useful" ;-) seems appropriate... just an idea!
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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I'm a straight into soil kinda guy, and very rarely have a issue with getting seeds to sprout. I have never understood where the soak in a cup of water or in wet paper towels mantra originated from other than possibly trying to sprout significantly older seeds. Seeds are perfectly evolved to sprout in soil, I see no need to override that many years of evolution. Not nocking anyone, just my two cents.
I used to be a paper towel guy.. i now do a a soak overnight then right into soil just a very small amount down point down.
 
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