helluvagrower
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Yes its the light i was bamboozled by bs amazon reviews haha
[URGENT] PLANTS ARE OUTGROWING TENT
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harrychilds
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jondamon
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Then that’s the first thing you need to address.
I’m using a 300w (actual draw) @MarsHydrofactory FC3000 over a 3x3 flowering footprint this time.
You’ll be lucky if that light of yours penetrates anything more than 10” into your plants.
For a 2x2 area you should be using around 150-200w of actual wattage LED’s.
any further vertical growth of your plants is just detracting from the penetration power of the GIIXER.
If you want to continue using the light next run then contemplate 1 plant trained into a 1.5x1.5ft scrog etc this should help you maximise the crappy light.
Jjgrow420
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Ya man I think this is the guy who told me I need a special strain to grow in dry environments. Then he said he doesn't even grow weed. Idk.
Flowki
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Humidity will drop if you defoliate a large portion of your foliage, assuming you had a large enough foliage to actually change the rh in the first place (when I say you, I don't mean you personally). Why you relate that to just yourself, your personal humidity preference, and your self defined satisfactory weight, I don't know. I get the feeling this is going to end up in big bud pics, so I'll cut to the chase. I've split an entire main stem by accident before, at flip. It still yielded much the same, to my astonishment. That does not prove defoliation wrong, but it does prove the plant can still perform, even if you are butchering it. Butchering it (even loli popping) comes with risks or changes to the way the plant or environment then behaves. You are ignoring those changes on purpose because I think you know the science behind it blows you out the water. The science might be wrong, so say why?, don't just ignore it. I'm fully open to learning.
You've conceded it does not increase yield, you do it for ''increased over all quality''. Are buds 30" away from the light as good as the buds 18" away from the same light?. Answer that question directly.
Plant respiration, leaf temps, and even light/drop off intensity are not belief concepts. Heavy defoliation fks with all 3 of them for a lot of growers.
There have been plenty of failed attempts on RIU to prove mass defoliation works. Some have done successful grows while heavy defoliating, but are not getting any suprising yield or quality.. nothing out of the ordinary at all. Yet mass defoliation is a ''skill'', so why learn a skill that offers no real reward for your mastery?.
Growing with Co2 has extensive guides and defined results as with, scrog, sog, vertical growing, lst, hydro, sip, drip, blumats, nft, even aquaponics. Mass defoliation has been argued over for years now, yet there is still no tried and tested, definitive defoliation guide that all agree on as acceptably proven. Defoliators are the religious group of growers. I'm not mocking religion here, but that's what it's like.
Do you have a guide on defoliation?.
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Flowki
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Does your biological communism start and finish at ''all strains are equal'', or are all ginger people coincidently bad at the sun?. I don't grow weed, neither do you.
Jjgrow420
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Lol gingers? Communism? I thought this was a weed forum.
I most def grow weed I'm smoking some I grew right now. And I defoliated it.
I defoliate in crammed environments. It will give you less larf and allow you to grow longer colas rather than shading the entire bottoms out. Some strains love it some strains hate it. I don't go as crazy as some and strip off all the leaves but I do pull alot of them and I find it makes the buds develop better generally speaking. (Indoors only)
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Jjgrow420
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I liked yours I'm bored too. Taking a break from getting my salmon float fishing gear set up for Monday.
Jjgrow420
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I love it man. Fishing the great lakes for some chinnies and coho (Atlantic too but fairly rare). It could be windy and raining cold as fuck and I'm out there casting away. The tug is the drug!
Flowki
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So I need a special strain to defoliate?.
What strains love it and what strains hate it?.
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hotrodharley
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Hello? What the hell? There really can be too much of a good thing.
helluvagrower
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So would the mars hydro ts1000 be a good replacement?
jondamon
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Seems like it would YES. As it’s 150w panel.
BUT
What’s your extraction system and exhaust ducting like?
do you have a carbon filter and fan?
If so what are they?
Sorry if this has already been said but I’m not sure I saw it any of the posts.
Jjgrow420
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Now your a defoliation communist
If you weren't really looking for a comeback you'd see what I wrote was 'some like it some don't' you can defoliate any strain even special strains meant to grow in dry environments...lol
Flowki
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No you said some strains love it and some hate it. That is very strong terminology, about as strong as it gets, so it is surely based on your solid findings. So what strains love it and what strains hate it?.
For the record, are you saying some strains don't do better in hot arid condition's?.