URB natural

Stoned Cold Bulldog

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How soon can I put my clones in soil?
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well, by now you have already stuck that plant. Yes, it could be planted as is. Yet, you'll get a better start/plant if you wait for more roots to come before planting. the advise of now from an experienced grower was a bit hasty and i explain why. It pays to do more legit homework than to just take the advice of strangers who mean well but often leave out specifics.
 

Stoned Cold Bulldog

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Lol wish I got paid for it lol, I just fell in love with it once I used it and wrote what I saw my plants do. That’s also why I added my photos I’m not the best grower just a diy kind of guy lol
if a side by side is done it should be shown. imho just saying here's the URB results with no control/other plants to compare is lame imho. I'm not spending loot based on that type of fuzzy science even if the person does mean well.

another note on this urb product. i came looking because FARMER BIRDLEY said he used it as a seed soak for 30 min. before he germinates. i can't say i have confidence in a 30 minute soak that going to make a significant difference.

everyone is chasing products to gain an advantage. yet, far too many do so simply based on the hype from the seller. or quite often from a stranger saying it really works that doesn't offer any legit proof other than their words.

Monsanto spent 40 million to try to duplicate the product lol. now if that's not a red flag of fuckery i don't know what. so do what you want cause u will anyway and u have extra money to experiment or waste. ijs
 

lisa222

Member
A long time grower that helps me learn about pressing, cloning, sexing etc etc told me about URB and that he would not grow w/o it. Because of the expense he only uses in flower. So I waited until I went into flower - OMG - you can see and your plants have got to love you for it. After seeing the results I am going to use in veg too. I use less than they suggest but use it every time I water. It is a product that you can visually see helps your plants
 

radiant Rudy

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A long time grower that helps me learn about pressing, cloning, sexing etc etc told me about URB and that he would not grow w/o it. Because of the expense he only uses in flower. So I waited until I went into flower - OMG - you can see and your plants have got to love you for it. After seeing the results I am going to use in veg too. I use less than they suggest but use it every time I water. It is a product that you can visually see helps your plants
you can buy suma grow direct but smallest size is 64 oz i think. Pretty sure it is the same as URB but less expensive.

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abdulhamd

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Most of these products are not worth the cost of the packaging. I looked up URB and saw that it's basically just humic acid and some bacteria that is probably already present in most soils. But it was the 87.99% inert ingredients "could be anything plus water" that is pretty common with most of these kinds of products. Then the website is like an infomercial complete with testimonials. They don't even tell you what's in the product. I had to look for a vendor online that had a picture of the label. A manufacturer with a legitimate product would have that on their website. Instead they have photo's and testimonials like the rest of the snake oil out there. $60 a liter. Good grief.
True and most of them are bugs in a jug magic they proclaim. Wonder why they boast about unfounded magical results.
 

abdulhamd

New Member
It's not worth it. Save your money.

"Its the specific ratio, consortium and the humalite derived humate suspension that makes this product complete and different."

That sounds like marketing verbage from the manufacturer. You can buy 5 pounds of soluble humic acid for $15. That will last you a hundred times longer than this overpriced product.

I could give sugar pills to a dozen people with headaches and half will say it stopped the pain. It's called the placebo effect.
True. Humic acid itself can sometimes help make soil more pliable and release nutrients. Just looks like sumagrow relabeled and sold as urb or what ever. Had similar issues and shifted to using a mix of humic posder in water plus a small dose of micronutrients. That worked better than any of this crap and only costed me about 2 dollars (one spoon of humic acid, half a t-spoon micronutrient mix and half a t-spoon of OMRI listed NPK in two gallons of water) to make two gallons.
 

abdulhamd

New Member
Yeah I was message their rep on ig and he got defensive because I was curious of how many cfus of a certain trichoderma they had in their product. I was told monsato spent $40 million to try and replicate the tech they use to make it and also tried to buy it from them, they declined
Not sure if I should laugh at this or cry. Monsanto offering to buy urb or sumagrow - huh, what. BS at its height. They get defensive cause they dont know what they are talking about and create more lies. Did some research after they gave a similar response to me and it turns out they lost their license to make what ever they are making from Michigan State University long time back and they are not even supposed to make anything like that. Than you have to question the science behind dumping microbes in humic acid. Acela Biotek (https://www.acelabiotek.com/) is the owner of the license and rights and they informed me that the original product with scientific data to back it up is manufactured by them in California.
 

abdulhamd

New Member
if a side by side is done it should be shown. imho just saying here's the URB results with no control/other plants to compare is lame imho. I'm not spending loot based on that type of fuzzy science even if the person does mean well.

another note on this urb product. i came looking because FARMER BIRDLEY said he used it as a seed soak for 30 min. before he germinates. i can't say i have confidence in a 30 minute soak that going to make a significant difference.

everyone is chasing products to gain an advantage. yet, far too many do so simply based on the hype from the seller. or quite often from a stranger saying it really works that doesn't offer any legit proof other than their words.

Monsanto spent 40 million to try to duplicate the product lol. now if that's not a red flag of fuckery i don't know what. so do what you want cause u will anyway and u have extra money to experiment or waste. ijs
True and funny - red flag of fuckery. urb abd iits parent comapny sumagrow seem to have a long history of fuckery. Acela Biotek a california based company claims these guys are quacks and they are not even supposed to make any product like that. It seems they messed up big time and lost their manufacturing license from Michigan State University and what they are doing may be just backyard quackery.
 

radiant Rudy

Well-Known Member
True and most of them are bugs in a jug magic they proclaim. Wonder why they boast about unfounded magical results.
True and funny - red flag of fuckery. urb abd iits parent comapny sumagrow seem to have a long history of fuckery. Acela Biotek a california based company claims these guys are quacks and they are not even supposed to make any product like that. It seems they messed up big time and lost their manufacturing license from Michigan State University and what they are doing may be just backyard quackery.
True. Humic acid itself can sometimes help make soil more pliable and release nutrients. Just looks like sumagrow relabeled and sold as urb or what ever. Had similar issues and shifted to using a mix of humic posder in water plus a small dose of micronutrients. That worked better than any of this crap and only costed me about 2 dollars (one spoon of humic acid, half a t-spoon micronutrient mix and half a t-spoon of OMRI listed NPK in two gallons of water) to make two gallons.
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I HAD TO REPORT YOU DAY ONE. HAVING AN IN-THREAD MELT DOWN AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SHITTING YOURSELF, NO THAT IS AGAINST TOS.

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The jill clapperton pod goes into detail elucidating potential effects of various microbial consortia and also explains concerns with nutrient immobilization resulting from over feeding of sugars. I no longer follow the practice of repeated inoculation coupled with mollasses/humate drenches aimed at cultivating microbes. I made this adjustment after a eureka moment reflecting on my plants whilst listening to the pod.
 
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