Updated Pics! three days into veg 18/6 cfl

i have two plants indoors the first ones name is cowabunga and the other is funkcomadena the strain in unknown the seeds came from some real high quality mids total legit mid but anyways cowabunga sprouted nov 1 and funky sprouted the 6th they are under 6 100w cfls 6500k each. i just fertilized for the first time two days ago with 20 20 20. cowabunga came out and its fan leaves were deforms if you look at the first pic (have more pics on another post) you can see the fans are deformed. funky came out a little later and stretched but i solved that problem within two days so its fine both stems are looking healthy and getting thicker. the sevens on cowabunga are coming out and looking spiraled any advice? the sevens are also coming out of funky they seem to look good. olease tell me how they look and how i am doing

does anyone know why they look like this?

mowogrow said:

i just fertilized for the first time two days ago with 20 20 20.

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You should not be using any nutrients at this point. Seedlings are too sensitive to be given nutrients at this young age. Usually, you want to give them water only for the first 3 weeks of their life. Otherwise you will damage them and stunt their growth. Also, they look like they are overwatered. How often are you watering them?

are they still considered seedlings if they sprouted three weeks ago? i was watering them about everyday but i haven't at all today the soil isnt real dry but it feels pretty dry more than half way down

mowogrow said:

are they still considered seedlings if they sprouted three weeks ago? i was watering them about everyday but i haven't at all today the soil isnt real dry but it feels pretty dry more than half way down

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Yeah, your plants are still seedlings. I am confused tho. In your first post you said they are on the 3rd day of vegging. So which is it... 3 days, or 3 weeks?

You are watering them way too much. You should allow the soil to almost completely dry out before watering them again. You want to water them heavily, thoroughly saturating the soil, then let them completely dry out. Doing this will allow more oxygen to reach the root zone, and will encourage the roots to spread out in search of water, completely colonizing the soil. If you continue watering them the way you have been, the roots stay bunched up at the bottom of the container where there is always water. They have no incentive to spread out since all the water they need is at the bottom. This causes premature root-binding, root-rot, and slow growth. Don't be afraid to give them 3-4 days between waterings. Then when you do water them, soak them so that water starts flowing from the bottom drainage holes. Then wait for the soil to dry out again, another 3-4 days, before repeating.

thanks for the watering advice! they sprouted on nov 1 then on nov 6 so i figured that the so called "seedling stage" was over i transplanted them on thurs. they have been under 18/6 light since they sprouted

You should also change to a 24/0 light schedule. I know you're going to hear people talk about how plants need a "rest" period, and that 18/6 is best, but the facts do not support that. Plants are not like humans in that they do not need to sleep or rest. The photosynthesis process will continue for as long as there is light available. By maintaining a 24/0 light schedule, your plants will veg about 30% faster than on an 18/6 schedule. Again, others may disagree but what I'm telling you is backed up by scientific fact. Super grower, Ed Rosenthal, has this argument all the time and he insists that what I am saying is true. Plus, my own experiments have backed this.

i can def understand what your saying but i have heard that less light creates more females that was from jorge cervantes......also is it possible to have too many lumens? or too high k

Whether a seed is female or male is completely dependent on genetics. Stress can cause hermies on otherwise female plants, but 24hrs/day of light will not cause males or other stress problems. I've been using that light schedule for over 10 years and have never had a problem. And my veg growth rate is at least 30% better than 18/6. And don't worry about too many lumens. The sun provides about 10,000 lumens per sq.ft., and unless you're running several thousand watts of HID light, you won't come near that. Heat is the biggest concern with excessive light. You just gotta make sure you keep it cool enough so your plants don't burn up.

can i change to 24/7 at this point

Yeah, you can switch to 24/0 with no problems. And seriously, don't worry about it causing stress. I promise you it won't. The only thing you'll notice is faster growth.

thats good ill do that it sounds dumb not to do it does it increase overall harvest since the plant would be bigger once it goes to 12/12?

Correct.... A plant vegged for 30 days on a 24/0 light schedule will be bigger than the same plant vegged for 30 days on a 18/6 schedule. This means you can have a bigger plant going into flowering equaling more buds, or you can veg it for a shorter time period giving you less total time to harvest.

so since my planted sprouted on nov 1 how long should i keep the 24/0 going i figured about a month or so but not sure..

mowogrow said:

i have two plants indoors the first ones name is cowabunga and the other is funkcomadena the strain in unknown the seeds came from some real high quality mids total legit mid but anyways cowabunga sprouted nov 1 and funky sprouted the 6th they are under 6 100w cfls 6500k each. i just fertilized for the first time two days ago with 20 20 20. cowabunga came out and its fan leaves were deforms if you look at the first pic (have more pics on another post) you can see the fans are deformed. funky came out a little later and stretched but i solved that problem within two days so its fine both stems are looking healthy and getting thicker. the sevens on cowabunga are coming out and looking spiraled any advice? the sevens are also coming out of funky they seem to look good. olease tell me how they look and how i am doing

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theres no way in hell those plants are only 3 days old in ur very first post of this thread.

socom3riot said:

theres no way in hell those plants are only 3 days old in ur very first post of this thread.

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He said that it sprouted Nov 1.

Dude, i like 20 go 24/0 during cloning, rooting, but when it comes to veggin 18/6 is not bad man. Don't think that you have to go 24.....On another note, you should be getting ready to put some Light strength nutes. Whatver the instructions say, use like 1/3 of it for the first week.

Nobody said that 18/6 was "bad". It's just an unnecessary waste of time. There is no reason not to run a 24/0 schedule. It promotes faster growth and has no negative aspects. If you can improve your photosynthesis rate by 30% by switching to 24/0, why stay on 18/6. Like I said, the science is on my side and I have yet to hear one fact-based argument for maintaining an 18/6 schedule. If you know something I don't, please share it. I am here to learn and help others learn, so if you've got factual knowledge about it then let us know.

Hell, i just went to 24/0. Sounded like fun after reading you this. I am at week 3 almost at 18/6. Get to spend more time now in tent.

okay so a new update already lol i just checked em and it looks like at the bottom of the stems it looks like little bumps but not noticable unless you look REAL close they appear to do kinda white....thoughts?