Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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Snak
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Collie with all the time you spent furiously punching your keyboard, you could have been reading a book that teaches you to grow your plants more successfully.
That would actually be a positive- what you are doing here right now is not helping anyone out, yourself included.
That would actually be a positive- what you are doing here right now is not helping anyone out, yourself included.
Hassan
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what he doesnt realize is that masks of ip adresses can be banned also, so it doesnt matter if his ip is static. Its people like him that fuck stuff up for other people on his network
Whoever said something about snitching, this isn't the fourth grade and this kind of behaviour doesnt fly here
Whoever said something about snitching, this isn't the fourth grade and this kind of behaviour doesnt fly here
Uncle Ben
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If you have a comment about topping, then let's hear it.
Admin is on it. Much thanks.
Let's get back to the subject at hand, growing some good smoke.
Gracias,
Tio
captain chronizzle
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i just wanted to share a story.
long before times of static ip adresses, masked static ip, and pm's, forums with threads and posts. i learned to top.
i remember like yesterday, we went to this spot to smoke and happened upon another smoker(cool spot, close by). that smoker had a few beers and we had a fat sack of weed, so we just chilled. talkin, and talkin, time went by. we talked about cars, girls, and most importantly marijuana. turns out this guy had a brother that was quite experienced. in fact, this guy used to help his brother every year for a short season. this guy told me all sorts of tricks. i completely forgot all but one. he told me to pinch above 3 to 4 internodes. yes, he spoke words, and my mind imagined images of said plant structures. i had no pictures, posts,replies. i remember, i tried this different ways, many times. after a few years, i knew what i was doing. now if time permits, i continue to top, after the first time. i like 12 tops, you have to tie them up well!
I wish i could have had the internet back then and be able to "search", and find this thread. and some people dont appreciate the help? what has our world come to?
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long before times of static ip adresses, masked static ip, and pm's, forums with threads and posts. i learned to top.
i remember like yesterday, we went to this spot to smoke and happened upon another smoker(cool spot, close by). that smoker had a few beers and we had a fat sack of weed, so we just chilled. talkin, and talkin, time went by. we talked about cars, girls, and most importantly marijuana. turns out this guy had a brother that was quite experienced. in fact, this guy used to help his brother every year for a short season. this guy told me all sorts of tricks. i completely forgot all but one. he told me to pinch above 3 to 4 internodes. yes, he spoke words, and my mind imagined images of said plant structures. i had no pictures, posts,replies. i remember, i tried this different ways, many times. after a few years, i knew what i was doing. now if time permits, i continue to top, after the first time. i like 12 tops, you have to tie them up well!
I wish i could have had the internet back then and be able to "search", and find this thread. and some people dont appreciate the help? what has our world come to?
my .02
Uncle Ben
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Howdy, thanks for sharing that story. Brings back memories. There are alot of growers (myself included) that grew pot long before the internet.
There are many ways to train your plants. My thread is about converting one main cola (central leader) into 4. Topping above the say......4th node, maybe 7th will get you a bushy plant but not new, dominant central leaders. I'm not saying that's good or bad, your end product is your call. I'm just trying to distinguish between the two.
Grow hard,
UB
NLOverOntario
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i have heard that you get better yield if you simply bend the tops of the plants and continue to tie them down so that all the tops are equal distance to the light and therefore think they are the top. With them growing horizontally. Wouldn't that yield a lot higher?
I thought this was a good pic so I figured I would whore it you to ya UB.
Day 28, you can see all 4 shoots. It's the most compact and smallest out of my 4 plants.
Speaking of plants, in the last 4 days they have exploded, growing about 6 inches, they have grown so fast I have cut a week off veg and flipped them to 12/12 last night. The tallest one is 20-22 inches, with the shortest being 17-18 inches.
Thanks again UB, the babies look amazing, absolutely amazing.
Day 28, you can see all 4 shoots. It's the most compact and smallest out of my 4 plants.
Speaking of plants, in the last 4 days they have exploded, growing about 6 inches, they have grown so fast I have cut a week off veg and flipped them to 12/12 last night. The tallest one is 20-22 inches, with the shortest being 17-18 inches.
Thanks again UB, the babies look amazing, absolutely amazing.
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Uncle Ben
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In theory, perhaps. In practice, you never know until you try it. The 4 main colas I've done are pretty fat top to bottom.
Ah pimp dat.
Looking good guy, quite a success story!
Keep 'em green,
UB
Uncle Ben
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Really never gave it any thought, I just do it when its vigor ramps up. Perhaps 2 weeks old, 3-6 nodes.
nikk
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hmmm,for a second i thought i reinvented the game...oh well,touche
Here is my understanding of why UB's method works in laymans terms:
You grow your plants healthily for 2-3 weeks so that a healthy root system can build up.... remember most of the work during the early stages in happening below ground and not above it for your viewing pleasure!!!
Your wanting at least 5 nodes IMHO.. this ensures that as this growth stage has been reached, that your root system is healthy and ready to provide the energy for the next step.
Now... here is the bit that ppl seem to be getting confused with.. the 2nd true node.
If you look at any standard "topping" photo you will the see the 2 "Pottential" shoots above the origin of the fan leaves. What you are looking for here is a "Pottential" 4 shoots or lower branches.
So count up from the base of your babies and find those 4 pottential bottom branches and make your cut (root as a clone if you want at this point).
What happens now is a rapid redirection of the hormones and energies of the plant. As there are now only 4 "Pottential" branches on the plant.. and your plant has a very healthy root system bellow the surface.. you will see a rapid growth rate on the those branches and 4 main thick branches will take place of the single main stem.
Then just watch them fly!!!!
Nice one UB!!!!
You grow your plants healthily for 2-3 weeks so that a healthy root system can build up.... remember most of the work during the early stages in happening below ground and not above it for your viewing pleasure!!!
Your wanting at least 5 nodes IMHO.. this ensures that as this growth stage has been reached, that your root system is healthy and ready to provide the energy for the next step.
Now... here is the bit that ppl seem to be getting confused with.. the 2nd true node.
If you look at any standard "topping" photo you will the see the 2 "Pottential" shoots above the origin of the fan leaves. What you are looking for here is a "Pottential" 4 shoots or lower branches.
So count up from the base of your babies and find those 4 pottential bottom branches and make your cut (root as a clone if you want at this point).
What happens now is a rapid redirection of the hormones and energies of the plant. As there are now only 4 "Pottential" branches on the plant.. and your plant has a very healthy root system bellow the surface.. you will see a rapid growth rate on the those branches and 4 main thick branches will take place of the single main stem.
Then just watch them fly!!!!
Nice one UB!!!!
Whew! Read the entire 1157 posts before I chimed in. I was tempted to pipe up earlier with several questions, but as I read through the thread, all my questions were answered (at least for now).
Too bad OP can't separate the wheat from the chaff. Could probably condense the whole thread to a few pages of some very useful and accessible info.
That said, excellent read Uncle Ben. Very inspiring and an eye opener for my first indoor grow. I've looked at sog, scrog, fim, single stalk, lollipop and other methods but this is the most simple and concise method I've seen.
My seedlings are just starting their 3rd week and are pushing their 6th leaf sets. I'm planning on topping and re-canning this weekend. Of course I'll wait for the proper moon phase and an incoming tide
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I've been looking for the Spin out spray but can't find it. The link you posted is dead. Can anyone steer me to a vendor?
Have you ever used the Smart pots? I'm thinking a Smart Pot might achieve similar results if I can't find the paint. Local growers here in the pacific nw say the air pruning of the roots increases the yield substantially. I'd appreciate your opinion.
Here's a link to the manufacturer. http://www.smartpots.com/
Too bad OP can't separate the wheat from the chaff. Could probably condense the whole thread to a few pages of some very useful and accessible info.
That said, excellent read Uncle Ben. Very inspiring and an eye opener for my first indoor grow. I've looked at sog, scrog, fim, single stalk, lollipop and other methods but this is the most simple and concise method I've seen.
My seedlings are just starting their 3rd week and are pushing their 6th leaf sets. I'm planning on topping and re-canning this weekend. Of course I'll wait for the proper moon phase and an incoming tide
. I've been looking for the Spin out spray but can't find it. The link you posted is dead. Can anyone steer me to a vendor?
Have you ever used the Smart pots? I'm thinking a Smart Pot might achieve similar results if I can't find the paint. Local growers here in the pacific nw say the air pruning of the roots increases the yield substantially. I'd appreciate your opinion.
Here's a link to the manufacturer. http://www.smartpots.com/
Uncle Ben
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swazifarmer
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UB you legend. Just topped my plants saw this thread around a week ago and was looking everywhere for it today. The knowledge you shared was excellent I don't even have to ask you questions after reading all the other posts pure class
I'm using smart pots and my babys are doing amazing, I got pics some posts back, not to many.
I started them from seed in 5 gallon pots (probably only about 3 gallons of soil though) and they are just thriving. I have 4 in smart pots and 1 in a regular plastic one. The smart pots dry out a lot quick and the plants seem to be a lot happier. I have been watering every other day in the start and sometimes have been watering 2 on 1 off because of theym drying out where the plastic pot one I'm watering every 3 or 4 days.
I'd definately recommend them to any grower over plastic.
This is only my first grow so take my advice for what its worth but look at my pics some posts back and judge for yourself. I flipped my lights to 12/12 after 28 days and my plants are 18-22 inches tall.
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