Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Uncle Ben

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born2killspam said:
Take a look at the pic I linked to in post 296.. If done 'properly' as per that pic, you're just missing the actual node..
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Above or below?

monkz said:
hey UB how my plants are 5weeks in veg, thanx for all the help btw,
i topped them like you said so how much longer do i wait till i flower coz they look small now since theres only 2 nodes..
will the yield be small if i flower now?
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Your call like merahoon said. The more the foliage, the more the bud.

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WOW.. guys.. this is by far the best and most informative post / thread line i have read (and i read a lot) the multitude of topics touched on and the simple and precise explanations are above and beyond. I have grown in the past with different methods .. soil / hydro , indoors / outdoors .. and will be again in the future.

UB and born2killspam wow.. thanks for your patients and more from the repeat questions .. I just finished reading every post from page one to thirty three .. you guys rock . and everyone else here who has posted some great ideas and information. By far one of the best threads
 
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If done according to the pic you're cutting just above the youngest developed node.. You aren't actually removing a node, only the apical meristem.. This allows the four new outputs from the two youngest nodes to grow, and prevents the spacing growth between those two youngest nodes from developing..
Topping at the second node is different in the sense that the internode distance was given an opportunity to develop, your colas grow from two distinct levels..
 
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cca580 said:
WOW.. guys.. this is by far the best and most informative post / thread line i have read (and i read a lot) the multitude of topics touched on and the simple and precise explanations are above and beyond. I have grown in the past with different methods .. soil / hydro , indoors / outdoors .. and will be again in the future.
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Nice bunch of folks, eh? Thanks for playing along.

UB and born2killspam wow.. thanks for your patients...
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So far this old doc has had no lawsuits. Can't raise 'em from the dead, just a dose of experience based on no-spin is all it takes.

..... and more from the repeat questions .. I just finished reading every post from page one to thirty three .. you guys rock . and everyone else here who has posted some great ideas and information. By far one of the best threads
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Wow! That's alot of reading! Here's more if ya got the stomach. I'll not get into the nasty politics of what went down, just refer you to this thread for informational purposes only. My approach is simply stated in post #2.
https://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=33786

Make it a great day......
 
Uncle Ben

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born2killspam said:
If done according to the pic you're cutting just above the youngest developed node.. You aren't actually removing a node, only the apical meristem.. This allows the four new outputs from the two youngest nodes to grow, and prevents the spacing growth between those two youngest nodes from developing..
Topping at the second node is different in the sense that the internode distance was given an opportunity to develop, your colas grow from two distinct levels..
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Well said brudder, thanks for the input.

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born2killspam

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Thats why I was so impressed with your height uniformity on your 4 cola tops.. I couldn't tell which were from the upper node, and which were from the first node..
 
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born2killspam said:
Thats why I was so impressed with your height uniformity on your 4 cola tops.. I couldn't tell which were from the upper node, and which were from the first node..
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I have done this a bunch of times and have found that the end results (size and finished colas height) are pretty uniform. For starts, when you do da dirty deed (repeat dat 10 times) da internodes of node 1 and 2 are usually only inches apart, plus the apical dominance thingie aka "distribution of the auxins" is also very uniform. That translates into simultaneous foliar output from the two node sites. You would think that node #2 would automatically be the dominant point on the plant but it doesn't work out that way.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
I have done this a bunch of times and have found that the end results (size and finished colas height) are pretty uniform. For starts, when you do da dirty deed (repeat dat 10 times) da internodes of node 1 and 2 are usually only inches apart, plus the apical dominance thingie aka "distribution of the auxins" is also very uniform. That translates into simultaneous foliar output from the two node sites. You would think that node #2 would automatically be the dominant point on the plant but it doesn't work out that way.
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How diverse is your strain experience with this??
 
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GrowingGreenGiant said:
im high as poop right now and i tried to read your reply, honestly i have no idea what you just said.
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Proper botanical jargon really does help to get a point across.. Its tough to find a happy medium that properly defines the anatomy, and is understandable to everybody..
But the terms are easy to google, and knowing them really helps when you're trying to pull usable info from scientific sources etc..
 
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born2killspam

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If you know what a node is (bulbous areas where branching occurs), then all nodes are true except the very lowest where those rounded seedling leaves grew.. The first true node is next above that..
 
monkz

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yo UB,
iv started growing Snow White, theyre currently sprouting in peat pots,
i was wondering if white strains respond well to topping?
and btw i topped my big bud plant so that i get 16 tops, well see what happens when i put it in flowering ;)
 
Uncle Ben

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monkz said:
yo UB,
iv started growing Snow White, theyre currently sprouting in peat pots,
i was wondering if white strains respond well to topping?
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Strain doesn't matter. If it's cannabis, it will do it to it. ;)

and btw i topped my big bud plant so that i get 16 tops, well see what happens when i put it in flowering ;)
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You'll get a bushy plant consisting of alot of small colas, not 4 main colas.

As an aside, how big are those peat pots and are they the kind with thin walls or chunky?

Have fun,
UB
 
monkz

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they the ones with thin walls, so to get the best response im assuming its just topping to get 4 colas then?
 
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