Thats what i figured, thanks. My room is 9ft tall so not really worried about height issues, just tryin to up the yield as usual. So far with this grow all i've do is take some clones and trim a little down low. I tell you what these are some pretty girls. My last grow i did the lst thing to the side of the bucket, bending all the stuff looking for light down. It worked out so so but i wasnt all that impressed so i just let these girls go by themselves. Sometimes less is more huh? Hey when is the "ideal" time to top?