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vanofwar

Active Member
So I have started... just started growing. Um I have implemented two growing procedures at the moment; direct planting into soil (which I have question about soil) and placing them in a damp paper towel for three days and plant when they're rooting.

1st which method works better? I have gotten mixed opinions from my friends.

2nd I am getting store (Wal-Mart) bout soil for my plants, is that ok?

3rd I am using one 18" florescent light for 4 plaints is that enough? I have 2 store bout "plant" bulbs and 2 lamps if need be.

I would like thank you for any answers I may receive and I hope my plants grow to be the best they can be.... now if you don’t mined I am baked as hell right now and obviously pretending to be smart....

I'll love yah but fuck yah,:hump:
----------------------- Holden, van k
 

Empyrean421

Active Member
Make sure you do tons of research as you grow... From this site and others. All your questions require a fair amount of decision wieghing on your part. I will give you my opinions quick though.

I used the towel method. This is easier as you can tell what ones are still alive and you wont be wasting your time with soil. Some say you can put them in a glass of water and whatever ones sink are ok to plant. I would rather see a tail though... That way I know for sure they are alive

Your best soil is SunGrow 4, I dont know if they sell it in your area but its good stuff. You want to use soil that has no nutrients in it. That way you can regulate it yourself and you know you wont over fert. If you have a nursery around your location just go in there and find someone that knows what they are talking about and say " What do you recomend for indoor plants that has a good drainage " Make sure you are at a nursery, they will have the good stuff.

Your lights will not be enough. You need to research lights a lot and this is where your hardest decision comes. HPS/MH (High pressure Sodium/Metal Halide) are your best lights but most expensive. They will give your Fastest growth and best yield. The next option is Florescent lighting. One kind is CFL's (Compact Florescents). These are those little spiral lights you can plug into any lamp. You can also use straight florescent lights but from what I understand those REALLY suck (what you are using now.) Unless you get the t-5's Those look pretty good.

Like I said research man. Lots of it.

P.S. Don't feel bad im pretty ripped myself too
 

mogie

Well-Known Member
Miracle Grow finally came out with a product that isn't total poop. It's their all natural potting mix. Paper towel method for germinating but put in a zip lock bag so they don't dry out. Here is some info on floros.


What are compact fluorescents and how can I use them for growing?

Contributed by: Burramys Parvus
Thanks to: 11leafedleaf
Submitted: 03-25-2003
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BASIC INFORMATION
Compact fluorescents are close relatives of the 4ft tube fluorescents, commonly used in shops and schools for their white, soft light that does not cast any defined shadows. These lights are long tubes, usually 4ft long, filled with a gas that releases a photon of light when excited by electricity. The electricity is passed through the tube from the metal sections at either end, thus exciting the gas within and releasing photons of light. These lights must have a 'starter' which gets the light going initially, unlike incandescent which can just be turned on and off without one. Regular fluorescents usually emit 18w of light per tube, and cannot be plugged straight into a wall socket.

Compact fluorescents, on the other hand, are made for use in regular light sockets, and can easily be installed by anyone with basic handyman skills. Compact fluorescents are usually around 8inches long (not including the ballast, which usually adds about 3 inches to the total length) and emit minimal amounts of heat from the globe itself. Most of the heat emitted from a compact fluorescent comes from the ballast. These lights are usually between 8w and 27w, although some variation may occur between brands and uses.

The main reason people choose CF's over regular fluoro's is their compact ability! They are very 'movable' and can be positioned almost everywhere. They put out MUCH more light than their bigger cousins, while using only a fraction of the space.

Some of the many varieties of compact fluorescents.









Image contributed by: Locutus


NON-CULTIVATION USE OF COMPACT FLUORESCENTS

If you're running a large grow setup, and you're concerned about the spike in electricity, replace your regular light bulbs with compact fluoro’s around the house! They give off the same light, using only a fraction of the electricity. If you're running a HID light, and the electricity increase could kill you financially, or you're just worried about LEO, it might be a good idea to replace incandescent with compact fluoro’s. As an example, a 100w incandescent uses most of its energy giving off heat. If you replace all these 100w incandescent bulbs with ~20w energy saving compact fluoro's, you can dramatically reduce your energy bill, and help the environment at the same time. In fact, I recommend changing all your lights to CF's regardless of your growing situation, as they will save you $$ in the long-term, and save the environment.

The advantage with these lights is that the conversion from incandescent isn't complicated! Simply un-screw the old bulb, and screw in a compact fluoro! Done! You're on your way to energy saving paradise!


THE USE OF FLUORO'S FOR GROWING CANNABIS

Every grower has, or still uses these lights. Although they don’t even come close to the results from a HID light, they do however provide a cheap alternative for a newbie 'dabbling' in the fine art of growing. Instead of spending hundreds of dollars on an HID light, a newbie can purchase a compact fluorescent for a few bucks, and still have money for a coffee on the way home.

These lights are also excellent for starting seedlings and clones, as their cool light will not dry out the soil as fast as an HID. They have a low intensity, and are gentle on newly germinated seedlings, and are great for clones as they wont dry them out or give them too much of an early blast.

Compact fluoro's are also great for stealth grows, as they can be kept about 1 inch from the plants, and do not require extensive heat ventilation due to their warm operating temperature.


WHERE CAN I PURCHASE THESE LIGHTS?

Most lighting stores will sell them, but watch out, prices are very different depending on what type of shop you get them at! As lighting shops only sell lighting equipment, their prices can either be high or low, it really depends on the type of lighting shop it is. A designer lighting shop may end up being much more expensive, as they tend to be more directed towards the upper-class designer type customer, which extra $$ to spend. Hardware’s sell them, but their variety of lights is usually limited. Electricians, and assorted electrical shops will sell them, and this is most likely where you will get the best range and the best prices. My advice to you is, shop around! You wont regret it when you can save around 30% per light.


WHICH TYPE OF COMPACT FLUORESCENT LIGHT TO CHOOSE

For anyone growing cannabis, it is pointless to buy a weak light. Given the option of 8w, 15w and 27w, you would be stupid not to buy the 27watt, as they are more or less the same price. Compare the lumen output of each of the bulbs, different 27w bulbs may have different lumen outputs (depending on the manufacturer) and as with everything, the more lumens the better. You will also be given 2 options, the screw method of fitting, or the bayonet method (push and turn). My preference is the bayonet fitting. Make sure that you choose the right one for your socket! Also, do not choose a regular compact fluoro. Pick the one with the energy saving feature (will be explained why later on in the document). Now, for vegetative growth you should choose the 'cool white' light. This is also acceptable for flowering, but a 'warm white' light will be better as it is stronger in the red end of the light spectrum which is more suitable for flowering.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Sometimes your seeds will pop within 24 hrs. If you leave them too long the roots will bury themselves into the towels. Best to check every 12 hours, also to make sure the towels haven't dried out.

In the glass of water method you merely wait until the seeds sink, when they sink this means they have absorbed enough water and are ready to germinate. At this stage you gently pop open the seed yourself to reveal the root.

You could do both, leave them in the water for a few hours and then transfer to the towels if you're not too confident about popping the seeds yourself... I'm not!

Also remember to keep the seed in a nice dark place at around room temperature.
 

lando421

Well-Known Member
The paper towel method is much more effective... You have a visual idea of the progress of your seeds, and can plant them when your satisfied with the root growth... Planting them asap is just a frustrating waiting game :). Reinforce yourself with some early results !

As for the lighting, you should do some reading on the color spectrum's of CFL's and learn which you want or would prefer throughout the stages of growth.
Sorry to say though, you need some major improvements on your lighting situation when they get bigger.
Also make sure your lights are nice and close to the plant (as long as they aren't too hot!)
 

vanofwar

Active Member
Thanks so much turns out that i have several compact florescent lights around the house. Ha ha. ya the direct planting is a bitch, But thankfully I only planted a few and used as I said other methods to see what works for me. Thanks once again!

one more question um, my seeds that i placed in the cup of water have sunk down to the bottom... now what as he said i should pop them but how?
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Did they sink of their own accord, or did you help them? If they sank on their own (usually after 24 hrs) you gently squeeze the shell between thumb and forefinger till it cracks open. As I said, I don't like doing this, so after they sink I put them between the wet towels and they usually pop on their own after a couple of hours.

If you helped them by prodding them to make them sink then this is no good, and if I were you I'd definitely put them between the towels.
 
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