Endur0xX
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one more!!!Subscribed !!!...thanks for doing this..
**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*
- Thread starter WeJuana
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I'm going to get this thing rolling. All 3 of these moms came from the same mother plant, cut at the same time, fed with the same nutes, under the same light to date, and are really similar in size to make it even better.
I took an extra cutting which is in the cloner, so instead of transplanting these form their 3 gallon pots to larger, I will just start over with the clone and turn it into another mother
This first run of flowering may also show a difference in yield between pots, as I am using 5 and 7 gallon smart pots for the comparison grow, and these are in 3 gallon standard plastic pots.
This means all vegging will be done under the same light in a different tent before the plants are entered into their respectable LED flower tents.
Going to 12-12 on Friday in their own tents, flushing hard until then.
kevin murphy
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very nice thread im subbed....
Scrogreen
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I agree. We all know led's can veg. Get right to the test with flowering. I like the way you think!!! Also what light will you be using to veg the plants?I'm going to get this thing rolling. All 3 of these moms came from the same mother plant, cut at the same time, fed with the same nutes, under the same light to date, and are really similar in size to make it even better.
I took an extra cutting which is in the cloner, so instead of transplanting these form their 3 gallon pots to larger, I will just start over with the clone and turn it into another mother
This first run of flowering may also show a difference in yield between pots, as I am using 5 and 7 gallon smart pots for the comparison grow, and these are in 3 gallon standard plastic pots.
This means all vegging will be done under the same light in a different tent before the plants are entered into their respectable LED flower tents.
Going to 12-12 on Friday in their own tents, flushing hard until then.
I'll be using Blackstar LED's to veg, since I already have spares laying around.
Kaptain Kron
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i love the blackstar spectrum such a nice lookin color lol
Beefbisquit
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I have 2 Blackstars from 2011 - a 100W and a 180W going right now.
Very anxious to see the comparisons!
Subbed, +REP!
Very anxious to see the comparisons!
Subbed, +REP!
davoswavos
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This should be a great grow but I strongly suggest going with optimum light height for each light because they will all be different I know with the blackstar during flower you can work your way down to about 8 inches with most strains without bleaching and you will be getting the most out of the light at 55" the spectrum will be great but the intensity not so good. This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to nock your grow just trying to help.
Hey davos! I don't at all take that as a knock to the grow, I actually really appreciate your feedback. The reason I decided to keep them all one height (55") is because I want this to be a perpetual grow, meaning I will need the lights raised for the larger plants, such as the mothers I am about to enter in the tent.
If the results start to seem like they are adversely effected by the height of the light, I will compensate and adjust the grow by setting the lights at optimum levels.
Thanks so much again for the input, don't hesitate to add your comments if you have them.
Kaptain Kron
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Spectrum>intensity all DAY, thats what LED's are all about man. They make some intense LED's like really intense but spectrum is always going to win over intesity, thats why with a 200 watt draw panel with a good spectrum you can generally pull equal to a 400 watt hps. Im runnin 156 watts right now and pulling just a few ounces less than when i was on a 400w hps. 
davoswavos
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I agree with you that spectrum is important but you need to find a good balance to not sacrifice yield the only lights I know of that need to be over 4' high are the glh v1's and v2's and these lights have been updated because they were too intense and not very user friendly. they are now doing it more like the blackstars and running the 3w diods at like half power so you can have them closer.Spectrum>intensity all DAY, thats what LED's are all about man. They make some intense LED's like really intense but spectrum is always going to win over intesity, thats why with a 200 watt draw panel with a good spectrum you can generally pull equal to a 400 watt hps. Im runnin 156 watts right now and pulling just a few ounces less than when i was on a 400w hps.
PrezDickie
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subscribed! working up to my first grow, and just to admit any bias i've got a blackstar 180w just because budget + quaility fit my needs. love that your approaching this from a facts only perspective. the more info we can provide the growing community about LED the better. what kind of info about the mother plants will you provide before putting them into their 3 individual test tents? weight of each before flower? height? number of prospective bud sites? just curious, the more data sets about pre and post flowering the more indepth the comparison will be thanks for all the work you put into this, i'll be following with high interest!
thanks for all the work you put into this, i'll be following with high interest!@davos - Keep in mind the 55" height is distance from the floor. The mothers I enter into the comparison tents will put the lights 24" from the canopy with their current size, and that's before stretch.
@Prez - Welcome! I like and respect your honesty haha. I dont have a scale large enough to weigh the plants, but what I will try to do is give a video update of the mothers when the lights kick on, so yall can get a feel for how similar they are in size.
What I am going to do to offset the minute difference in size is put the largest looking plant with the least wattage light, middle with middle, and smallest with the most wattage light.
Height is estimated 30-31".. but I will give an updated measurement when lights kick on.
@Prez - Welcome! I like and respect your honesty haha. I dont have a scale large enough to weigh the plants, but what I will try to do is give a video update of the mothers when the lights kick on, so yall can get a feel for how similar they are in size.
What I am going to do to offset the minute difference in size is put the largest looking plant with the least wattage light, middle with middle, and smallest with the most wattage light.
Height is estimated 30-31".. but I will give an updated measurement when lights kick on.
PuffPuffPassed
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sub'd +rep! cool ass grow man!!
Kaptain Kron
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as a matter of fact the gen 1s you could have closer its only the gen 2's that have the issue with needing mass height and its about 24 inches ideally.
PSUAGRO.
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So you are NOT transplanting the moms to larger pots??????did i read this correctly?
I'm going to get this thing rolling. All 3 of these moms came from the same mother plant, cut at the same time, fed with the same nutes, under the same light to date, and are really similar in size to make it even better.
I took an extra cutting which is in the cloner, so instead of transplanting these form their 3 gallon pots to larger, I will just start over with the clone and turn it into another mother
This first run of flowering may also show a difference in yield between pots, as I am using 5 and 7 gallon smart pots for the comparison grow, and these are in 3 gallon standard plastic pots.
This means all vegging will be done under the same light in a different tent before the plants are entered into their respectable LED flower tents.
Going to 12-12 on Friday in their own tents, flushing hard until then.
Correct. All 3 of these were taken from the same mother, so they are all of the same genes. Instead of transplanting the 3 into bigger pots, I'm just going to flower them.
I took a clone which will just be put into a bigger pot when it's ready, and will be new my LA Con mom.
The clones coming up out of the clone machine are the same LA Con strain, so now we get to see if the yield will be effected with 3 gallon plastic pots vs 5/7 gallon smart pots in addition to comparing the lights.
Kaptain Kron
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oh it shall be affected sir, this i promise u, roots = fruits, for example i just had a jilly bean that looked like a fuckin elephant turd in a party cup, a frosty danky elephant turd lol smelled so kill, chopped it a lil late for extra amber as it gives it a bit more body stone on top of the giddy social high it has, and the thing was all fluff and leaf, reason being is lack of root space, it was healthy as can be and blasted in trichomes but just so leafy and undense and i've ran this same cut outside in large pots no problem as well as inside hydro and soil no problem so its a pretty proven fact a smaller pot size is gonna yield less. There are ways to increase but your keepin yourself on a pretty strict regiment and i like it. good for research. Im liking the small variables you've thrown in now keep up the good work man.
good for research. Im liking the small variables you've thrown in now keep up the good work man. I agree, I think pot size will matter.. I'm just wondering to what point.oh it shall be affected sir, this i promise u, roots = fruits, for example i just had a jilly bean that looked like a fuckin elephant turd in a party cup, a frosty danky elephant turd lol smelled so kill, chopped it a lil late for extra amber as it gives it a bit more body stone on top of the giddy social high it has, and the thing was all fluff and leaf, reason being is lack of root space, it was healthy as can be and blasted in trichomes but just so leafy and undense and i've ran this same cut outside in large pots no problem as well as inside hydro and soil no problem so its a pretty proven fact a smaller pot size is gonna yield less. There are ways to increase but your keepin yourself on a pretty strict regiment and i like it.
So first harvest will be the 3 gal, and then once these clones are done, I will be putting 2 clones per tent using smart pots, one in a 5 gallon and one in a 7 gallon, and we will see what the difference is there as well.
anotherdaymusic
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wish you would have gotten an advanced led diamond series... its what i have coming in the mail haha.