Uh what todo about this seed?

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
Ive never not had a seed germinate on their own. Seems like a pointless step to me. Only time i germinate in paper towel is if im buying reg seeds or bagseed so i dont waste a cube.

Always has worked for me... I just prefer to know where my tap root is so I can take it to soil with the tap down. I use gentle tweezers to do this. It's like doing 100 operations in an afternoon.... Yeah, I got that kind of time on my hands. We pay about $11 bucks a seed, so you gotta take the steps... but I don't really even like to run seeds... I prefer cloning, much more predictable. But!.. you gotta run the seeds to find the phenos, blah blah blah.

Millo · Apr 28, 2021

lusidghost said:
I've never used soil, so you're probably right. He's using rockwool. That's what I've always used until recently switching to Rapid Rooters.

I thought people used it for clones only?

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Always has worked for me... I just prefer to know where my tap root is so I can take it to soil with the tap down. I use gentle tweezers to do this. It's like doing 100 operations in an afternoon.... Yeah, I got that kind of time on my hands. We pay about $11 bucks a seed, so you gotta take the steps... but I don't really even like to run seeds... I prefer cloning, much more predictable.

More often than not a seed will find its way. If youre that worried about orientation you can just plant pointy side up. I just feel moving from paper towel and then inserting is more dangerous than just planting the seed. Then again you may run into problems like this with my method. Out of 100s of seeds this is only the second time its happened.

Millo · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
My only issue with soil is its harder to transplant and doesnt hold as much oxygen, also doesnt stay wet as long.

No need to transplant if you plant them in one of THOSE

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
More often than not a seed will find its way. If youre that worried about orientation you can just plant pointy side up. I just feel moving from paper towel and then inserting is more dangerous than just planting the seed. Then again you may run into problems like this with my method. Out of 100s of seeds this is only the second time its happened.

That's why I find it interesting.

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

DoubleAtotheRON said:
That's why I find it interesting.

I think the shell got stuck on rockwool or it may have been too deep. ‍

either way i only need 8 out of 10 seeds to make it so if i lose 2 ill live.

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

DoubleAtotheRON said:
That's why I find it interesting.

Also i agree clones from here on out. Just need to make one a mother.

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
I think the shell got stuck on rockwool or it may have been too deep. ‍ either way i only need 8 out of 10 seeds to make it so if i lose 2 ill live.

I hear ya.... If it were me, I would have thrown it in the trash, but i run 100 at a time, so this will be fun to see if it makes it. I've had some that would not shed the shell, and I said fuck it, and let it go.... low and behold it broke through... and it was about 2 inches tall.

lusidghost · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
I used rapidrooter for clones but i like rockwool for seeds. Not sure why guess no point fixin it if it aint broken. These cubes had preset holes so not sure maybe it was too deep i usually make my own holes but i liked these cubes more. ‍ part of me wants to dig it out but part of me doesnt wanna risk it ‍

I think it got his shell stuck and it's growing face down ass up.

I mostly cloned with the little cubes,, but I always used macro plugs for seeds. I liked them because it was easy access to the roots. I always transplanted them into a 4x2 rockwool cubes, then into a coco or a rockwool slab or whatever I was using as the final medium.

I switched to Rapid Rooters before I realized I was planting the seeds too deeply. I may go back to the macro plugs, but out of 30 Rapid Rooter'd seeds I only lost two and both just failed to germinate. They seem to dry out really fast though. Next time I think I'm going to set them in a cloner controlled by one of these so that I don't over or underwater them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184CG9K0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=AARY1ZSUT9VPR&psc=1

lusidghost · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
Also i agree clones from here on out. Just need to make one a mother.

I'm in the same boat. I'm currently pheno hunting and can't wait to get back to cloning from a few reliable mothers. I have two more seeds runs and then I should be good until I get tired of smoking the same stains a few years from now.

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

lusidghost said:
I think it got his shell stuck and it's growing face down ass up.

I mostly cloned with the little cubes,, but I always used macro plugs for seeds. I liked them because it was easy access to the roots. I always transplanted them into a 4x2 rockwool cubes, then into a coco or a rockwool slab or whatever I was using as the final medium.

I switched to Rapid Rooters before I realized I was planting the seeds too deeply. I may go back to the macro plugs, but out of 30 Rapid Rooter'd seeds I only lost two and both just failed to germinate. They seem to dry out really fast though. Next time I think I'm going to set them in a cloner controlled by one of these so that I don't over or underwater them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184CG9K0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=AARY1ZSUT9VPR&psc=1

I got a thermostat setup like that.. I think it's a 2x4ft... works great with RR.. just make sure the channels stay full, and dome it at 83ish degrees till you see roots, then start opening up some vents.

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

DoubleAtotheRON said:
I hear ya.... If it were me, I would have thrown it in the trash, but i run 100 at a time, so this will be fun to see if it makes it. I've had some that would not shed the shell, and I said fuck it, and let it go.... low and behold it broke through... and it was about 2 inches tall.

If they werent 10$ a seed id be more apt to throw it out ‍

i dont do bagseed or regseed only top end fems from trusted companies. Plus i need 8 of these to survive to be moved outside in june. Dont have time to clone them.

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

lusidghost said:
I think it got his shell stuck and it's growing face down ass up.

I mostly cloned with the little cubes,, but I always used macro plugs for seeds. I liked them because it was easy access to the roots. I always transplanted them into a 4x2 rockwool cubes, then into a coco or a rockwool slab or whatever I was using as the final medium.

I switched to Rapid Rooters before I realized I was planting the seeds too deeply. I may go back to the macro plugs, but out of 30 Rapid Rooter'd seeds I only lost two and both just failed to germinate. They seem to dry out really fast though. Next time I think I'm going to set them in a cloner controlled by one of these so that I don't over or underwater them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184CG9K0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=AARY1ZSUT9VPR&psc=1

Ya it looks like it. Kinda making me want to operate now... i dont want it to grow upside down lol

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

lusidghost said:
I think it got his shell stuck and it's growing face down ass up.

I mostly cloned with the little cubes,, but I always used macro plugs for seeds. I liked them because it was easy access to the roots. I always transplanted them into a 4x2 rockwool cubes, then into a coco or a rockwool slab or whatever I was using as the final medium.

I switched to Rapid Rooters before I realized I was planting the seeds too deeply. I may go back to the macro plugs, but out of 30 Rapid Rooter'd seeds I only lost two and both just failed to germinate. They seem to dry out really fast though. Next time I think I'm going to set them in a cloner controlled by one of these so that I don't over or underwater them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184CG9K0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=AARY1ZSUT9VPR&psc=1

If you look close you can see the head of the seedling just sitting there it literally would take little effort to lift it out im debating

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
Ya it looks like it. Kinda making me want to operate now... i dont want it to grow upside down lol

Give it 24 hours man!.. it won't die in 24 hours.. post a pic tomorrow.... which i guess is today. Anywho.. give it another 16 hours or so.

lusidghost · Apr 28, 2021

Cigarz said:
If you look close you can see the head of the seedling just sitting there it literally would take little effort to lift it out im debating

Be careful moving it, the little stem can be brittle. I would give it an opening to escape on its own and wait to see if it needs further assistance tomorrow.

lusidghost · Apr 28, 2021

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Give it 24 hours man!.. it won't die in 24 hours.. post a pic tomorrow.... which i guess is today. Anywho.. give it another 16 hours or so.

This a fair. I'd kind of like to see what it does too.

Cigarz · Apr 28, 2021

lusidghost said:
This a fair. I'd kind of like to see what it does too.

Fiiiine!

Lordhooha · Apr 28, 2021

go go kid said:
if it were me, i would take a razor blade and cut the head out, but others may say just leave it

Only the strong survive!!

DoubleAtotheRON · Apr 28, 2021

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Uh what todo about this seed?

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