Twisted leaves and deformed growth (pics attached)

I have cutting from three strains, the Exodus Cheese seems to have the worst symptoms, although none of the three look great. I'm using home depot buckets (with holes drilled in the bottom) filled with B'Cuzz Mix and Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow and Bloom Ph Perfect. (I originally started with Advanced Nutrients Ph Perfect grow but switch to sensi because I didn't have the micro nutrient bottle for the 3 part line.

When I got the Sensi Grow I flushed with half strength and they looked better at first. Now I'm starting to see more twisted leaves again. I just switched them to flowering the other day. Temp has been in the 70s at night and about 84 during the day. RH has been around 30-40%. Both the flowering and veg plants have been getting ppm of about 700-800 of the respective nutes.

Someone mentioned the twisting might be strain specific, but it seems like all 3 strains are experiencing deformed growth, just some worse than others. Also getting rust spots (bottom left of 2nd picture) which eventually turn into completely brown leaves (as seen in the third picture). I'm assuming this is related to the twisting somehow. Sorry for the HPS pics, don't have another source of light to use right now.



Tho following pictures are of the plants still in veg:


Any ideas? Do i just need to add more CalMag and flush again? Thank you in advance for the help!

This is the exodus cheese in veg:

You can see how a lot of the leaves are twisting right as they begin to grow, some are hardly growing at all.

looks like some kind of weird reveg?only time I seen it

thumper - yea, that's the only time I've seen anything similar to this, but these plants were showing these signs well before I switched over (and the veg plants that haven't been switch are also twisting). Not sure what to do

The brown spots may be a sign of CalMag issue. The twisting looks like mine on my revegging plants. I'm curious as to the cause of yours.

The twisting does remind me of reveg issues, but the problem was happening before I switched them to flower. Also, the vegging plants that are in 24 hours of light are twisting bad, so im confused. Can't find any other threads/pics of plants twisting quite like that

Broad mites can cause the new growth to twist like that. I hope it's not but I would take a good look with 100x magnification or better. Is it primarily the new growth that's twisting and have you seen any pests or pests damage?

Crab Pot said:

Broad mites can cause the new growth to twist like that. I hope it's not but I would take a good look with 100x magnification or better. Is it primarily the new growth that's twisting and have you seen any pests or pests damage?

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i 2nd this guys opinion.

I've only had experience with spider mites. I'll have to rush order a 100x loop. I'd say its mostly the new growth that's twisting. Or at least the new growth twists the worst. All I have for pests is Azamax, but I've heard that doesn't do much good for broad mites. Have you had experience w/ broad mites? Any way to diagnose before my loop gets here?

Thanks for your help!

anticrom said:

I've only had experience with spider mites. I'll have to rush order a 100x loop. I'd say its mostly the new growth that's twisting. Or at least the new growth twists the worst. All I have for pests is Azamax, but I've heard that doesn't do much good for broad mites. Have you had experience w/ broad mites? Any way to diagnose before my loop gets here?

Thanks for your help!

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It could be Advanced Nutrients. Forums been flooded with plant problems from people using AN.

a mongo frog said:

It could be Advanced Nutrients. Forums been flooded with plant problems from people using AN.

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I believe it but with only 700-800ppm?


Broad-mites are a bitch and I know most lose their gardens over them but I see where some have won the war with NukeEm' (OMRI). I don't have any personal experience with them but I found this:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/broad-mites.524214/

I c u hane a lot of 3 finger leaves also.if it was me I would dumpem find better cuts

Are any of the leaves half green and half yellow? Also are any of the leaves turning ninety degrees? If so, definitely broad mites. Get nuke em asap. It's the only thing that works, trust me. I had em for a year before I knew what was going on.