Twisted growth - Leaves look like throwing stars!

toostonedto

Active Member
This is the only plant out of my nine that really look like this. It's like one half of the leaf didn't form properly, causing the leaf to twist sideways. The new growth seems to be ok, but I'm not sure what is going on. They were stressed a couple times over the last month moving from their first 2 temporary homes to this final one. They've been stress free for a week now.

Plants are over a month old (from when seed sprouted) and I'm sure they are under size. But I figure they lost a couple weeks total recovering from transplant stress.

Nutes are Technaflora Boost and Grow, Thrive Alive Red, Sugar Daddy, Cal-Mag, Superthrive, a little bit of Rhizatonic, Pro-Tekt and SM-90.

My light is 400mh Digilux on a Lumatek ballast in a Radiant hood.

Air temps 72-74(22-24c) and Rez temps are 64-66.

Any ideas? Anything to worry about?

Thanks
 

Attachments

toostonedto

Active Member
Well I dunno, seems some of the new growth seems to still be doing it, and now the plant next to it seems to be showing the same thing(it might have been like this for a while, but I just noticed it on this plant).

I'm still adjusting pH to 5.5 before going to sleep, and still finding it around 6.0-6.2 when I wake up.

Anyways, here are pics taken today of the second plant showing weird growth
 

Attachments

toostonedto

Active Member
And here is close up pics of that original plant. I took a good close up of one of the worst leaves, so you can see how half the leaf is shriveled up, causing the twist

...and a group shot taken today
 

Attachments

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
did you wash your rock real good before using it? Ive read that hydrotron can wack your Ph levels for awile till it
stablizes. although I use it and have never had this issue. it also looks like some over watering how often do you
flood?
 

toostonedto

Active Member
Hey thanks for the help. Yup I washed the rocks real good..lots of shit comes off them! And I was watering every 6hrs for 10minutes, but I've taken it back to 7hrs to see if that makes a difference.

I'm leaning towards an over nute and maybe over watering. But I'm not seeing any nute burn, and some plants and leaves are a lighter green, so I don't think I'm burning them. My EC is 1.1(550ppm .5 scale)
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Hmm i can't say for sure that its nute burn but if it was soil id say a light nute burn you had for a while. Its in hydro so don't listen to me because there could be ph humidity probs as well or somthing else. Leaves can twist like that with nute burn and yellowing but probably somthing else too in hydro. Purple stems, stunted growth, plants looking like they need a drink when they get plenty, could be slight over nute. If you at least kept the ppm and nutes the same wouldnt the plants get to the point where they could handle that nute strength and start showing new growth? When did you last adjust the strength of the nutes. P.s. i have no experience of hydro so sorry.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
well alot of the upper leaves look fine the ones that are weird looking are on the lower
part and as you know plant leaves once damaged stay that way. so watch the new
growth. ive got plants that size and are at 700ppm at .5 and no sign of burn. do you
have a fan blowing right on them?
 

toostonedto

Active Member
Thanks for the PPM reference Hellraizer. These are 70% Sativa 30% Indica, so I think they're light feeders. And yup I got a fan blowing them on low(which is still plenty strong)

Well upon further reading, I have found out that Thrive Alive and Superthrive are very similar, and since I'm using both I might be over doing it. I've found people complaining of mutated growth from too much B-1 and hormones.

So I'm doing a rez change in the next couple days when I get my H202, and will cut out the Superthrive, and use less Thrive Alive and see how that goes.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
well the reason I men the fan is sometime to much wind can burn leaves and sometimes you can get wierd
growth!! its a thought/idea.
 

toostonedto

Active Member
well the reason I men the fan is sometime to much wind can burn leaves and sometimes you can get wierd
growth!! its a thought/idea.
Hmmm, that's interesting because I've thought the same thing, but wasn't sure. But now that you say that, I'll have to rethink my setup and see if I can rearrange my fan.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
this seems to happen to me with small plants and not with the larger ones. I tend to have large amount of air moving in the top of my tent
by doing this there a light amount of air movement in the botton of the tent. but just enough to keep each plant moving.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

Well-Known Member
I am sorry, but I highly doubt that is wind burn or stress. What are you useing to read PH and PPM? how long are you going between rez changes? Are you adding Nutrients when you top off the Rez?
 

SCARHOLE

Well-Known Member
This grow I got one plant like that, its 2 sisiters look good an healthy, but shes a tard.
Photo0302.jpg
I guess its just gentetic, if all the plants dont look like that?
 

devilh212

Member
sorry know this is an old post. this is tobacco mosaic virus. u got it now u always gonna hav it unless u strip everything, kill everything, sulphur burner bleach bleach bleach sulphur burner and start again. transmits from tobacco where it stays dormant for up to 2 yrs after the harvest... is shit take it from experience.
 

welshwizzard

Well-Known Member
Never come across TMV in any I've ever seen on the go to be honest. Lots of growers smoke next to their plants with no ill effects.
 

devilh212

Member
its not from smoking next to them its touch. how many people can say they havent forgot to wash theri hands before and after going in the tent. read up on it man its brutal. genetic virus that cripples growth, warped disfigured leaves with marbling down one side of each finger or some fingers on a leaf. you will notice it the worst in summer when the plants r hotter and under stress, it spreads through the library, one plant touching the next and so on, and then you spend all of winter growing the shitty stuff with tmv all over it out then it gets a bit better, and then summer starts over again. no cure no nothing. tis what it is, best chop chop chop disinfect sulhpur burner, new tent new pots etc etc etc and then start all over again. i know man ive just had to do it, and didnt do it well enough and now its back. its ball sack man
 

welshwizzard

Well-Known Member
And what I'm saying is they smoke around while touching their plants. I have seen stuff that looks like it and turns out it's not.

If you have had it, unlucky man. Just dont think the OP has it.
 

devilh212

Member
fair enough man i think you are wrong as anything though. some plants are more resitant. not all tobacco has it in it. fucking russian roulette.
 
Top