turning air pump off for 30min every 2hrs? what do u guys think?

Same page except we use ac also. Didn’t see much yield decrease either when I stopped the co2 just a back that wasn’t screaming why why as I brought the bottles in

Justkickinit420 said:

Same page except we use ac also. Didn’t see much yield decrease either when I stopped the co2 just a back that wasn’t screaming why why as I brought the bottles in

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i tried co2 as well. didn't see enough improvement to justify the cost for my little grow. i do fine with just clean Colorado air.

rkymtnman said:

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Thanks for the link man! But I'll keep my airstones, someone else will find the link useful.

Wastei said:

Thanks for the link man! But I'll keep my airstones, someone else will find the link useful.

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i grow in Waterfarms: so I use both a waterfall and then add an airstone later when the roots hit the lower res. Got both bases covered!

Wastei said:

Waterfalls works really well. Aquarium pumps will cause temperature to rise and are prone to breaking. Same goes for venturis.

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A venturi by itself will only break if it is constructed wrong.
There are no moving parts, or something electronic or mechanical in a venturi.
Then you could also say 'airtube is prone to breaking'

When I had an airpump it broke down within an month. Perhaps it wasn't the best one I bought.
But I think the chances that an air pump or an aquarium pump breaks down, are about the same.
Everything with mechanics or electronics inside can break down.

About the heat.... probably.
But I thought that compressed air is also bringing in some heat in the res. I know to little about this, I have to admit.

Every systems has its pro's and con's.

I also grow in waterfarms or diy WFs with hydroton... No air stones or water falls in my water.. I've found they are just not needed in a WF.. I've added a couple mods to circulate water from a remote reservoir, without using an electric water pump.. 10 liters of hydroton under a 24/7 dripring adds all the o2 the plant needs.. Since the o2 is added at the interface of water and air, the hydroton has more than enough surface area to add the dissolved..o2.. Here's a couple plants that used only the 24/7 dripring to grow ...

mytwhyt said:

No air stones or water falls in my water.

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not to nitpick, but the water coming out of the drip ring and dripping into the bottom res is a waterfall. i add airstones to my WFs when the roots hit the lower res.

That's not a nitpick? Since when did dripping become a waterfall... Granted water does fall from the dripring to the hydroton.. But I don't believe that's the definition commonly used to describe a waterfall.. I could be wrong, the english language is constantly changing. By the way I run the bucket/basket at least an inch in the water.. No dripping there, just a constant flow through the hydroton..

mytwhyt said:

I've added a couple mods to circulate water from a remote reservoir, without using an electric water pump.. 1

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Interesting!
How do you circulate water without an electric pump?

mytwhyt said:

Granted water does fall from the dripring to the hydroton

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but then it drips from the hydroton into the lower res. water falling into the lower res.

How can it drip from the bottom of the basket if the bottom of the basket is in the water? I haven't bought into the common practice of keeping the basket above the water.. Show where in nature roots need that air space.. Maybe if you're doing a Kraty

Keesje, The GH dripring is an air lift water pump.. First thought of by a German in 1797 The GH dripring will move 5-6 gal an hour in a regular unmodified WF, from the bottom bucket to the hydroton on the top..
The pvc standing water column connected to the reservoir is what makes this setup work.. The water in the grow igloo, and the reservoir, and the water column are all the same level.. The top of the water column is 6-7 inches higher than the water level.. The drip ring will remove 5-6 gal an hour from the water column, which is then replaced from the reservoir... With the dripring adding 5-6 gal an hour to the grow Igloo, gravity will return the water, at the same rate, to the reservoir.. This link is a new project I'm starting, it will help explain how the dripring can be configured differently to circulate water from the reservoir..

mytwhyt said:

How can it drip from the bottom of the basket if the bottom of the basket is in the water?

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like you said, maybe your version of the English language is different than mine.

mytwhyt said:

That's not a nitpick? Since when did dripping become a waterfall... Granted water does fall from the dripring to the hydroton.. But I don't believe that's the definition commonly used to describe a waterfall.. I could be wrong, the english language is constantly changing. By the way I run the bucket/basket at least an inch in the water.. No dripping there, just a constant flow through the hydroton..

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When I ran Hydro Halo Drip rings, which come with risers, the rings were ~ 5" above the media. The 5" rings have ~ 20 holes,: I consider each hole to be a mini-waterfall that splashes onto the media, which in my case was lava rock which has lots of nooks and crannies.

Prior to just using an elbow splashing a stream of nute solution into a net pot filled with rock and platonic solids, I tried using one of the drip rings, but the weight was an issue causing it to droop, too close to the stones. Every method has its issues to resolve

For me anytime water is “falling” back to the res from any point above the res is making water fall...

JKI, Have to agree with that.. Falling water is falling water.. It rained yesterday and I had a water fall in my living room.. It sure as hell wasn't a waterfall, I put a pan under it..
The waterfalls described here, by those who use them, are mostly of the classic type.. If you use a sprinkler head, it is by definition a water fall, maybe even a fancy waterfall.. To conflate dripping water, with waterfalls, is just wall pissing, i.e. trolling..
That would be you PN, you're just pissed because I've remarked on your repeated failures and the useless assertions you've posted over the years on THCF..

Darknes01 said:

So i have my air pump turning off for 30 min every 2hrs to give it some rest.
I was wondering what you guys think about this? also i was thinking maybe when it turns off it would give the roots some time to rest.
do u guys think this is a good idea or a bad idea?
should it be on all the time? or say off less frequent or more frequent?
i have everything automated so its easy to set whatever parameter i want.

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why ?

Darknes01 said:

So i have my air pump turning off for 30 min every 2hrs to give it some rest.
I was wondering what you guys think about this? also i was thinking maybe when it turns off it would give the roots some time to rest.
do u guys think this is a good idea or a bad idea?
should it be on all the time? or say off less frequent or more frequent?
i have everything automated so its easy to set whatever parameter i want.

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here ill throw a plastic bag over your head for 2 hours at a time and see how that goes ?

OP in regards to the cycling of your air pump I would suggest against doing so. It will allow the stones and part of the lines to become saturated in water. This will speed up the clogging of your stones making them less efficient over time

Justkickinit420 said:

You really think it has no effect?

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CO2 and o2 levels are independent of each other so yes I really think it will do nothing except an almost unmeasurable amount of ph drop

CO2 makes a difference only when the rest of the environment is specifically dialed in for its use.

This is 10 days growth. I had to go away on a family emergency and my kid looked after them when I was gone. The day I left was flip day but since I was not going to be there I didn't want to leave her with that since she has no idea how anything works I forgot to lower the CO2 to 500ppm instead of 1200ppm. By the time I got back 10 days later I was fucked and have to cut this grow down but non the less here are the pics.