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ttystikk

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I think you meant alluded.

I'm only posting this because you seem like a thoughtful gentleman, capable of eschewing all butthurtedness, which is not a word at all. bongsmilie Also because I'm a fussy little bitch.


A. Vertical is better than horizontal, and nobody claimed vertical trellis was a new idea.
2) You're doing vertical poorly.
c: What are you going on about? (Please don't reply)
IV - Do you self-aggrandize or name-drop much? (Never mind)
Lol cracked me right up this morning!
 

ttystikk

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LOL! Smart woman! Bet she goes spastic when they mention Terpinator........ But there is no better product...............at parting a grower from his money!
She was very knowledgeable and asked me plenty of questions about our corner of the ag industry. It's clear she would like to be more involved in it but also (rightly, IMHO) feels like it isn't her job to supply rudimentary growing knowledge to recalcitrant young punks who are rolling their eyes at her cuz- cuz- cuz- they read this thing in Rosebud last year and it MUST be right! ..and her HALF CENTURY of experience in agronomy counts for nothing. o_O

You want to know why more ag firms aren't getting involved in cannabis? Because they know the average pot grower is an arrogant moron and they got no time for that. WE are the newcomers, the idiots- and the sooner this industry figures that out the better off we'll be.
 

pop22

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Yeah, I figured that out a long time ago. It makes me sad all the growers who take the word of cannabis nute companies and false experts for granted. They don't lie to us right?.............

And then "experts" like Jorge continue to propagate (pun intended..lol ) garden myths rather than admit he was wrong ( and all the "experts" do it! ).

Any chance you know Read Spear? He has a book called Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered. Its an excellent book minus all the bullshit. I'd like to see more people read it. His work is based on science. And he hates garden myths........



She was very knowledgeable and asked me plenty of questions about our corner of the ag industry. It's clear she would like to be more involved in it but also (rightly, IMHO) feels like it isn't her job to supply rudimentary growing knowledge to recalcitrant young punks who are rolling their eyes at her cuz- cuz- cuz- they read this thing in Rosebud last year and it MUST be right! ..and her HALF CENTURY of experience in agronomy counts for nothing. o_O

You want to know why more ag firms aren't getting involved in cannabis? Because they know the average pot grower is an arrogant moron and they got no time for that. WE are the newcomers, the idiots- and the sooner this industry figures that out the better off we'll be.
 

ttystikk

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Yeah, I figured that out a long time ago. It makes me sad all the growers who take the word of cannabis nute companies and false experts for granted. They don't lie to us right?.............

And then "experts" like Jorge continue to propagate (pun intended..lol ) garden myths rather than admit he was wrong ( and all the "experts" do it! ).

Any chance you know Read Spear? He has a book called Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered. Its an excellent book minus all the bullshit. I'd like to see more people read it. His work is based on science. And he hates garden myths........
I haven't seen that book, I'll look for it.

The experts and nute companies in this industry lie because they're profiting by doing so... and until the average grower becomes knowledgeable enough to see these lies for what they are, it will continue to be.
 

mmjmon

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VEG
2g/gal 5-11-26 mix with micros
2g/gal calcium nitrate (used to be 3)
1g/gal epsom salt

BLOOM
As above, plus;
.5g/gal MKP

EC and pH to taste and feed copiously!

Hi,
I noticed the calcium nitrate is now 2 grams instead of the 3. Are you dropping the amount of calcium nitrate at flip? Or, did you find everything works better using the 2 grams throughout veg and bloom?

Have you seen this done in soil at all?

thanks
 

Michael Huntherz

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Yeah, I figured that out a long time ago. It makes me sad all the growers who take the word of cannabis nute companies and false experts for granted. They don't lie to us right?.............

And then "experts" like Jorge continue to propagate (pun intended..lol ) garden myths rather than admit he was wrong ( and all the "experts" do it! ).

Any chance you know Read Spear? He has a book called Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered. Its an excellent book minus all the bullshit. I'd like to see more people read it. His work is based on science. And he hates garden myths........
I just bought that book on Kindle per your recommendation, it looks great!
 

ttystikk

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Hi,
I noticed the calcium nitrate is now 2 grams instead of the 3. Are you dropping the amount of calcium nitrate at flip? Or, did you find everything works better using the 2 grams throughout veg and bloom?

Have you seen this done in soil at all?

thanks
The change came about because I noticed a little canoeing and because the manufacturer's recommendations say so.

I'm currently in Tupur Royal Gold, a soilless mix with coco, perlite and forest litter. I'm very happy with how it's working.
 

ttystikk

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I bought both of the guy's books, and in the first few pages of each I can tell he's not on some sort of religious crusade, and he understands that science is real. So that's pretty cool...I will file a book report when I'm done with them. :rolleyes:
...and don't be late or I'll make you sit in detention. Lol, j/k- besides, once one reaches adulthood, the prospect of a quiet place to be for a few minutes ceases to have deterrent value!
 

Michael Huntherz

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Thank you and glad you like it! Nice to see science supported grow info.
The first book, "Small Spaces Huge Yields" is short, and seems fully contained and updated within "Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered." I'm happy to have bought them both, the guy seems to be really thoughtful, and profits from his books are dedicated to ending prohibition. His claims about his local tap-water quality makes me think he might live in Fort Collins. Everyone I've met from that town is chill as fuck. ;) I've read 85% of the book now, it isn't long. If you are interested in the botany aspect, Section 1 will refresh your understanding of taxonomy, plant anatomy and physiology, photosynthesis, and nutrition. Section 2 is the practical guide to growing good weed. I'm skeptical of the usefulness of "duoponics," that's the part of the book I skipped, but I intend to read it in detail today. I'm surprised he doesn't seem to give much mention of passive DTW coco or similar methods. He does own a soil company, so maybe I shouldn't be. Section 3 is back to the science, with a discussion of basic genetic inheritance, a beginner's guide to selective breeding, some fascinating stuff about soil chemistry and compost teas, a delightfully nerdy discussion on how to measure light properly (my favorite part aside from the plant biology section) and some other bits and bobs about nutrition and cloning. There's a lot of great references listed throughout, and it is a thoroughly researched piece of work. I can't say I learned an amazing amount from it, but the stuff I did learn was pretty darn cool. Well worth the $10 for an electronic copy. I would happily own a dead-tree version of it.
 

pop22

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I actually use a variation of duoponics, I call it soilponics. Here it is in action. IOts merely a DIY bottom watered system and it works quite well. This is a 20 gallon pot: Notice the tomato clone in the background. She became half of my garden tomato crop!

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The first book, "Small Spaces Huge Yields" is short, and seems fully contained and updated within "Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered." I'm happy to have bought them both, the guy seems to be really thoughtful, and profits from his books are dedicated to ending prohibition. His claims about his local tap-water quality makes me think he might live in Fort Collins. Everyone I've met from that town is chill as fuck. ;) I've read 85% of the book now, it isn't long. If you are interested in the botany aspect, Section 1 will refresh your understanding of taxonomy, plant anatomy and physiology, photosynthesis, and nutrition. Section 2 is the practical guide to growing good weed. I'm skeptical of the usefulness of "duoponics," that's the part of the book I skipped, but I intend to read it in detail today. I'm surprised he doesn't seem to give much mention of passive DTW coco or similar methods. He does own a soil company, so maybe I shouldn't be. Section 3 is back to the science, with a discussion of basic genetic inheritance, a beginner's guide to selective breeding, some fascinating stuff about soil chemistry and compost teas, a delightfully nerdy discussion on how to measure light properly (my favorite part aside from the plant biology section) and some other bits and bobs about nutrition and cloning. There's a lot of great references listed throughout, and it is a thoroughly researched piece of work. I can't say I learned an amazing amount from it, but the stuff I did learn was pretty darn cool. Well worth the $10 for an electronic copy. I would happily own a dead-tree version of it.
 

ttystikk

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The first book, "Small Spaces Huge Yields" is short, and seems fully contained and updated within "Marijuana Cultivation Reconsidered." I'm happy to have bought them both, the guy seems to be really thoughtful, and profits from his books are dedicated to ending prohibition. His claims about his local tap-water quality makes me think he might live in Fort Collins. Everyone I've met from that town is chill as fuck. ;) I've read 85% of the book now, it isn't long. If you are interested in the botany aspect, Section 1 will refresh your understanding of taxonomy, plant anatomy and physiology, photosynthesis, and nutrition. Section 2 is the practical guide to growing good weed. I'm skeptical of the usefulness of "duoponics," that's the part of the book I skipped, but I intend to read it in detail today. I'm surprised he doesn't seem to give much mention of passive DTW coco or similar methods. He does own a soil company, so maybe I shouldn't be. Section 3 is back to the science, with a discussion of basic genetic inheritance, a beginner's guide to selective breeding, some fascinating stuff about soil chemistry and compost teas, a delightfully nerdy discussion on how to measure light properly (my favorite part aside from the plant biology section) and some other bits and bobs about nutrition and cloning. There's a lot of great references listed throughout, and it is a thoroughly researched piece of work. I can't say I learned an amazing amount from it, but the stuff I did learn was pretty darn cool. Well worth the $10 for an electronic copy. I would happily own a dead-tree version of it.
I'm impressed, you must read a lot faster than I do lol

The section on duoponics sounds interesting, in large part because it may describe my current technique.
 

Michael Huntherz

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I'm impressed, you must read a lot faster than I do lol

The section on duoponics sounds interesting, in large part because it may describe my current technique.
I thought it seemed a good description of what Tupur and other coco media represents, as well. I just stayed up for a while reading last night because I slept all day for two days while I was sick. I do read fast, though, especially if the subject is familiar to me. If I was brand-new to growing I'd have read much more slowly.
 
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ttystikk

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I thought it seemed a good description of what Tupur is, as well. I just stayed up for a while reading last night because I slept all day for two days while I was sick. I do read fast, though, especially if the subject is familiar to me. If I was brand-new to growing I'd have read much more slowly.
I can't wait to hear what the author says about the approach.
 

Michael Huntherz

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I can't wait to hear what the author says about the approach.
Well, duoponics aka Jack Pots is not at all like dtw coco, its a perpetually wick-watered soil setup and the author's method uses 4 cubic feet of soil for one plant! I am sure one can grow monsters that way, but it seems a bit overwrought to me. I still like the book, but duoponics is not my jam. I might try the guy's soil, though. http://scientificsoils.com/

Blumats in soil has really worked well for my uses, I am hoping I can get Tupur similarly dialed in this run. I tried going down to 3 gallon fabric pots but I think they are a bit too small. I think 4*5 gallon smart pots is a solid setup for my 1.2 meter floor space and 600W hps. Until I retool my whole rig it seems like my best option, The more I strayed from it the less awesome my results have been.
 
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Vnsmkr

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Well, duoponics aka Jack Pots is not at all like dtw coco, its a perpetually watered soil setup and the author's setup uses 4 cubic feet of soil for one plant! I am sure one can grow monsters that way, but it seems a bit overwrought to me. I still like the book, but duoponics is not my jam. I might try the guy's soil, though. http://scientificsoils.com/

Blumats in soil has really worked well for my uses, I am hoping I can get Tupur similarly dialed in this run. I tried going down to 3 gallon fabric pots but I think they are a bit too small. I think 4*5 gallon smart pots is a solid setup for my 1.2 meter floor space and 600W hps. Until I retool my whole setup it seems like my best option, The more I strayed from it the less awesome my results have been.
5's probably be perfect....
 

Michael Huntherz

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The weird thing, to me, is that Mr. Read has a recipe for soil that uses quite a bit of coco coir, but no mention is made of coco as a base growing medium. The only mention of it, in either book, is in his soil recipe. Surprising, considering how popular it has become with folks I know. I did a search of the bigger book using the digital magic of Kindle, and the word 'coir' appears once, the string 'coco' appears nowhere.
 
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