TRUMP INDICTED
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Fogdog
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It's a cult. Or is it an abusive relationship?
Hard to tell the difference, though I think it's an abusive relationship. I keep trying to break the relationship off and he's not only still around but has become abusive and has started threatening me when I say he can't stay any longer.
www.huffpost.com
Hard to tell the difference, though I think it's an abusive relationship. I keep trying to break the relationship off and he's not only still around but has become abusive and has started threatening me when I say he can't stay any longer.
Sen. Lindsey Graham Says He’ll 'Absolutely' Still Support Trump Even If Convicted
The South Carolina politician shared his thoughts on Trump's criminal cases while appearing on CNN's "State of the Union."
BudmanTX
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makes me wonder what orange dumb dumb has over on Graham?It's a cult. Or is it an abusive relationship?
Hard to tell the difference, though I think it's an abusive relationship. I keep trying to break the relationship off and he's not only still around but has become abusive and has started threatening me when I say he can't stay any longer.
Sen. Lindsey Graham Says He’ll 'Absolutely' Still Support Trump Even If Convicted
The South Carolina politician shared his thoughts on Trump's criminal cases while appearing on CNN's "State of the Union."
compassionateExotic
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printer
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Just wants to hang onto power, does not mater if it is a danger to the country.
topcat
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Yeah, it's got to be big. Same with Cruz and more.
Fogdog
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For some it might be blackmail. A few are authoritarians who crave dominance and they are just riding the coattails of Trump waiting for their chance to take over for themselves. MGT, Gaetz and Himmler, for example. But most of the Republicans in Congress today, I believe its cowardice and fear of losing their seat in Congress. I think Mitch falls in the last category but would not be surprised if he's being blackmailed.
This doesn't sound like Mitch is being blackmailed:
McConnell: I’ll stay in the Senate and fight the GOP ‘isolationist movement’
The minority leader indicated that would still be a major priority for him until his term ends in 2026.
Herb & Suds
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H G Griffin
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Anyone else catch Popok's coke sniffle?
I noticed it a while back and since I've started paying attention, he does it most videos, including a few times in this one.
I noticed it a while back and since I've started paying attention, he does it most videos, including a few times in this one.
Fogdog
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looks to me like he's suffering from hay fever. Spring is in the air and doesn't always mean love is everywhere. Pollen is.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’ve lived all my life with a runny nose. Allergies. Back east Aug-Oct was a killer. Ragweed. Out here the principal species in the desert scrub is burro bush, a close relative of (three guesses and two don’t count.) Next eight weeks are gonna be fun fun fun.
Fogdog
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I'm lucky not to suffer from allergies like that suffered by others during the pollen season. Oregon is death to people who are sensitive to that. Though I'm fortunate enough to not suffer from it, I've many friends who do and Popok seems to be showing them. The reddish eyes, puffy face, the "coke sniff" and occasional wet hack. I've heard it's miserable and you have my condolences.
cannabineer
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Yeah, and I didn’t even get 30 minutes of feeling like a star and talking too fast out of it.
H G Griffin
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Fair enough. With him being a Noo Yawk lawyer, I just went with what Occam's Razor suggested.
cannabineer
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Fair enough. With him being a Noo Yawk lawyer, I just went with what Occam's Razor suggested.
Sir Napsalot
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I lived here 20 years before I got allergy symptoms, and then they were not severe, but definitely bothersome- Fluticasone has been helpful
compassionateExotic
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printer
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Hush money judge rules Trump violated gag order, warns of jail time
The judge overseeing former President Trump’s hush money case held him in contempt for violating a gag order nine times.
Judge Juan Merchan fined Trump $9,000 over his recent posts on Truth Social and campaign website attacking prospective jurors and prosecutors’ expected star witnesses, also warning the former president that additional violations could result in jail time.
“Defendant is hereby warned that the Court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it will impose an incarceratory punishment,” Merchan wrote in his ruling, ordering Trump to remove the offending posts from Truth Social and his campaign website.
At one point, a hearing on the matter grew heated between the judge and Trump’s attorney, where at one point Merchan told Todd Blanche that he was “losing all credibility” with the court.
Trump regularly rails against his perceived foes in his legal entanglements, leading his hush money judge, at prosecutors’ request, to place restrictions on Trump’s speech as the case headed to trial.
The former president is barred from making public statements about witnesses concerning their involvement in the case and jurors. Trump also cannot attack court staff, line prosecutors or their families as well as those of the judge and district attorney with the intent to materially interfere with the case.
Last week’s hearing came after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s (D) office claimed Trump violated the gag order 10 times in the days leading up to and during jury selection. They urged the judge to fine the former president $1,000 for each violation and demand he take the posts down.
“What happened here is precisely what this order was designed to prevent and this defendant doesn’t care,” Assistant District Attorney Chris Conroy said at last week’s hearing.
Most of the posts concerned Michael Cohen, Trump’s ex-fixer and personal lawyer who has since turned against his former boss and is expected to be a star witness for prosecutors.
Trump repeatedly reposted a New York Post op-ed authored by Jonathan Turley, a prominent legal commentator who has criticized prosecutors for bringing the hush money case, that cast Cohen as a “serial perjurer.”
In two of the 10 posts at issue, Trump went after Stormy Daniels, the porn actress paid the $130,000 hush payment at the center of the case. In one post, Trump called Daniels and Cohen “two sleaze bags.”
However, in the latter post, the judge determined the gag order was not violated, writing that the “tenuous correlation” to whether the comment was directly tied to two previous posts gave him “pause.”
The judge also found Trump violated the gag order when he quoted a Fox News host that “They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury.”
Trump has forcefully opposed the gag order, maintaining that it’s a violation of his First Amendment right to free speech and he’s merely responding to political attacks against him.
He has appealed the gag order, but it remains in effect for now.
Trump’s lawyers had also argued that many of the posts at issue were merely reposts of other people and not Trump’s own words. The judge rejected that argument, though he noted it appears to be a novel issue.
“It is counterintuitive and indeed absurd, to read the Expanded Order to not proscribe statements that Defendant intentionally selected and published to maximize exposure,” Merchan wrote.
“This is not to say that a repost will always be deemed a statement of the reposter, as context is directly relevant,” he added. “However, here, under the unique facts and circumstances of this case, the only credible finding is that the reposts constitute statements of the Defendant.”
Prosecutors have separately accused Trump of violating the gag order an additional four times. The judge has not yet ruled on that request. He could impose up to $1,000 fine per violation, the judge could order Trump to spend 30 days in jail. A hearing is set for Thursday to discuss those alleged violations.
Trump has faced gag orders — and fines — in his other legal matters.
In his New York civil fraud trial, the judge imposed a gag order on Trump that blocked him from making public remarks about court staff. The former president racked up $15,000 in fines for skirting that judge’s directive, and when Trump was asked to take the stand to explain himself, the judge determined that his testimony rang “hollow and untrue.”
Trump also faces a gag order in Washington, D.C. barring him from attacking key witnesses or prosecutors, minus Special Counsel Jack Smith, in his federal election interference case.
The judge overseeing former President Trump’s hush money case held him in contempt for violating a gag order nine times.
Judge Juan Merchan fined Trump $9,000 over his recent posts on Truth Social and campaign website attacking prospective jurors and prosecutors’ expected star witnesses, also warning the former president that additional violations could result in jail time.
“Defendant is hereby warned that the Court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it will impose an incarceratory punishment,” Merchan wrote in his ruling, ordering Trump to remove the offending posts from Truth Social and his campaign website.
At one point, a hearing on the matter grew heated between the judge and Trump’s attorney, where at one point Merchan told Todd Blanche that he was “losing all credibility” with the court.
Trump regularly rails against his perceived foes in his legal entanglements, leading his hush money judge, at prosecutors’ request, to place restrictions on Trump’s speech as the case headed to trial.
The former president is barred from making public statements about witnesses concerning their involvement in the case and jurors. Trump also cannot attack court staff, line prosecutors or their families as well as those of the judge and district attorney with the intent to materially interfere with the case.
Last week’s hearing came after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s (D) office claimed Trump violated the gag order 10 times in the days leading up to and during jury selection. They urged the judge to fine the former president $1,000 for each violation and demand he take the posts down.
“What happened here is precisely what this order was designed to prevent and this defendant doesn’t care,” Assistant District Attorney Chris Conroy said at last week’s hearing.
Most of the posts concerned Michael Cohen, Trump’s ex-fixer and personal lawyer who has since turned against his former boss and is expected to be a star witness for prosecutors.
Trump repeatedly reposted a New York Post op-ed authored by Jonathan Turley, a prominent legal commentator who has criticized prosecutors for bringing the hush money case, that cast Cohen as a “serial perjurer.”
In two of the 10 posts at issue, Trump went after Stormy Daniels, the porn actress paid the $130,000 hush payment at the center of the case. In one post, Trump called Daniels and Cohen “two sleaze bags.”
However, in the latter post, the judge determined the gag order was not violated, writing that the “tenuous correlation” to whether the comment was directly tied to two previous posts gave him “pause.”
The judge also found Trump violated the gag order when he quoted a Fox News host that “They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury.”
Trump has forcefully opposed the gag order, maintaining that it’s a violation of his First Amendment right to free speech and he’s merely responding to political attacks against him.
He has appealed the gag order, but it remains in effect for now.
Trump’s lawyers had also argued that many of the posts at issue were merely reposts of other people and not Trump’s own words. The judge rejected that argument, though he noted it appears to be a novel issue.
“It is counterintuitive and indeed absurd, to read the Expanded Order to not proscribe statements that Defendant intentionally selected and published to maximize exposure,” Merchan wrote.
“This is not to say that a repost will always be deemed a statement of the reposter, as context is directly relevant,” he added. “However, here, under the unique facts and circumstances of this case, the only credible finding is that the reposts constitute statements of the Defendant.”
Prosecutors have separately accused Trump of violating the gag order an additional four times. The judge has not yet ruled on that request. He could impose up to $1,000 fine per violation, the judge could order Trump to spend 30 days in jail. A hearing is set for Thursday to discuss those alleged violations.
Trump has faced gag orders — and fines — in his other legal matters.
In his New York civil fraud trial, the judge imposed a gag order on Trump that blocked him from making public remarks about court staff. The former president racked up $15,000 in fines for skirting that judge’s directive, and when Trump was asked to take the stand to explain himself, the judge determined that his testimony rang “hollow and untrue.”
Trump also faces a gag order in Washington, D.C. barring him from attacking key witnesses or prosecutors, minus Special Counsel Jack Smith, in his federal election interference case.
BudmanTX
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ya beat me to it....let me see if i can find the judges order
they should have put in the clink for 8hrs today and fined him, this way he can get used to his new surroundings if he screws up again...
BudmanTX
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Wow Merchan wasn't taking any shit with this one:
Court Dock: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2024/04/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf
" In those circumstances,
it would be preferable if the Court could impose a fine more commensurate with the wealth of the
contemnor. In some cases that might be a $2,500 fine, in other cases it might be a fine of $150,000.
Because this Coum is not cloaked with such discretion, it must therefore consider whether in some
instances, jail may be a necessary punishment"
guess that means he wanted to hit him for more, but because under NY law he couldn't.....interesting...
"THEREFORE, Defendant is hereby warned that the Court will not tolerate continued
will full violations of its lawful orders and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances,
it will impose an incarceratory punishment; and it is hereby"
"ORDERED, that Defendant pay a $1,000 fine for each of the nine violations of this Court's
lawful order by the close of business on Friday, May 3, 2024; and it is further"
"ORDERED that Defendant remove the seven offending posts from Defendant's Truth
Social account and the two offending posts from his campaign website by 2:15pm Tuesday, April
30,2024"
so 9k for what he did, and he still got 4 left for Merchan to rule on, and if he does it again it's JAIL?????
with this, also Merchan is allowing the orange dumb shit to go to Barron Graduation? hmm who wants to start the pot that he won't and he will go golfing instead, i mean he didn't go to any other graduation for his children, so why just Baron? Also Eric the asshole in the court with him today as well......awww he's got support, and it's not just depends.......
Court Dock: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2024/04/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf
" In those circumstances,
it would be preferable if the Court could impose a fine more commensurate with the wealth of the
contemnor. In some cases that might be a $2,500 fine, in other cases it might be a fine of $150,000.
Because this Coum is not cloaked with such discretion, it must therefore consider whether in some
instances, jail may be a necessary punishment"
guess that means he wanted to hit him for more, but because under NY law he couldn't.....interesting...
"THEREFORE, Defendant is hereby warned that the Court will not tolerate continued
will full violations of its lawful orders and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances,
it will impose an incarceratory punishment; and it is hereby"
"ORDERED, that Defendant pay a $1,000 fine for each of the nine violations of this Court's
lawful order by the close of business on Friday, May 3, 2024; and it is further"
"ORDERED that Defendant remove the seven offending posts from Defendant's Truth
Social account and the two offending posts from his campaign website by 2:15pm Tuesday, April
30,2024"
so 9k for what he did, and he still got 4 left for Merchan to rule on, and if he does it again it's JAIL?????
with this, also Merchan is allowing the orange dumb shit to go to Barron Graduation? hmm who wants to start the pot that he won't and he will go golfing instead, i mean he didn't go to any other graduation for his children, so why just Baron? Also Eric the asshole in the court with him today as well......awww he's got support, and it's not just depends.......