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NLXSK1 said:
You have no evidence of the confrontation. You are making shit up.

The entire conversation has been documented to be Martin asking Zimmerman if he had a fucking problem and when Zimmerman said no, he attacked him.

Now, you can speculate all day but without any other evidence we have to assume what Zimmerman said is a correct accounting of the situation.

You cannot just make shit up and then charge him with what you assumed happened.
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you are making shit up.

that is zimmerman's tall tale and his tall tale alone.

martin's girlfriend, who was talking to martin on the phone one minute before the police showed up, tells a much different story.

given that zimmerman's tall tale is full of holes and contradicted by every single eyewitness, it would be more reasonable to conclude that martin's girlfriend is the one telling the truth and zimmerman is not.
 
UncleBuck said:
community watch means watch, not follow. community watch volunteers are instructed to NOT follow OR carry a firearm.
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Do you know if Zimmerman was actively doing community watch or was he just driving somewhere?

Do you feel that community watch volunteers should be prevented from carrying guns or other self defense items?

Nothing of what you provide makes any difference.

What zimmerman did was legal. His gun was legally registered.
 
NLXSK1 said:
IThe point that matters is by all physical evidence (broken nose, blood on back of head, etc.) that Travan attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman was in fear of his life.
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there is ZERO physical evidence of any of that.

notice on the surveillance video when the cops search zimmerman and touch his clothes? they wear gloves if there is blood around to avoid blood borne pathogens. FACT.

the fact that they did not wear gloves means no blood, even if they did take his clothes.

there is also zero evidence that martin attacked zimmerman, and given the long history of violence, aggression, and "snapping" that zimmerman has, it is more likely to conclude that zimmerman did the attacking and martin stood his ground.

how long does it take you to cover 200 yards?
 
NoDrama said:
Except Zimmerman wasn't acting as an official "watcher" on duty. He was going to the grocery store.
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so if he is on duty then he is neigborhood watch captian Z and when he is off duty hes just unemployed wife beater Z

i dont see a difference

giving my self the title of lord Samwell doesnt make me anything more than i am whenits jsut samwell
 
Samwell Seed Well said:
which witness says that martin was on top of zimmerman when he was shot
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The only eye witness said Travan was on top of Zimmerman when he went to call 911. Nobody witnessed the shot.

However, it is hard to believe that in the interim, Zimmerman somehow got loose and then shot Travan.
 
Mellowman2112 said:
He is the older and larger of the two. If he scared Martin into a preemptive defensive act he should not have resorted to pulling his gun out. He could clearly see it was a kid. IF he gets socked on the jaw a few times he had it coming for getting out of his car and closing on martin in a threatening manner. It's a very unfortunate situation that is being used as one more lever to take everyones guns away. Not to mention further divide the electorate. Once we lose our guns then the real tyrrany begins.
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name one erson whose gun was taken away or one piece of legislation that has been passed to even limit gun rights in any way whatsoever.

that's what i thought, NOTHING. just your conspiracy theories.
 
UncleBuck said:
name one erson whose gun was taken away or one piece of legislation that has been passed to even limit gun rights in any way whatsoever.

that's what i thought, NOTHING. just your conspiracy theories.
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Until recently you could not own a gun in the city of Chicago. It is a dangerous place for law abiding citizens.
 
NLXSK1 said:
Ok, put a 6'6" black man on top of you straddling you and beating you in the head and then show me how you run away from that...
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yeah, that would be believable if there were any injuries. no evidence of any, however, and a lot of evidence that there are no injuries.

what does race have to do with this, mr. original race baiter? do you just resort to that tactic when you keep getting called out on your loose grip of the facts?
 
let me get this right No dramma

you think martin was on top of zimmerman then zimmerman shot him and got zero blood on himself and then within seconds is on top of martin instead of martin on top of him dead and bloody

ya that makes sense
 

  • yeah, that would be believable if there were any injuries. no evidence of any, however, and a lot of evidence that there are no injuries.​


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You mean except for the police reports, the medical reports and an eye witness?

You keep excluding the information that does not support your allegations.

In addition, you keep ignoring the point that he didnt need to be seriously injured to be in fear of his life. I understand it destroys your argument but it makes you look like an idiot to not acknowledge it.
 
UncleBuck said:
tell that to NLXSK. he's the dummy that brought it up, i was just telling him what the rules of neighborhood watch are.
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Which he wasnt doing, which has no basis in law, etc...

Can you stir up a little more useless shit to cloud the issues?
 
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