trayvan martin

desert dude said:
I agree that eye witness accounts are unreliable but that is pretty much all we have at this point about the events that night, and the eye witness accounts are consistent with the police report and with Zimmer being treated by SFD immediately after the shooting. If you have something more convincing, then sing out.

Regarding the video, I just watched it and I agree that Zimmer looks unscathed. Why do you think officer Ayala said in his official report that Zimmer was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head and that the back of his shirt was wet? Why would the first officer on the scene lie about those facts? Why would paramedics from SFD treat Zimmer; are they lying too?

If you are claiming that all these people are lying, then that implies some sort of conspiracy to clear Zimmer. Don't you think it stretches the bounds of credibility to believe that a conspiracy could be arranged between at least four people (Austin, John, officer Ayala, and the SFD paramedic) in the few hours following the incident? If the SPD was conspiring to clear Zimmer, how does that fit with the lead investigator trying to coerce Austin Brown to change his statement so as to support a charge against Zimmer?
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unscathed. you said it.

you do realize that the SFD might have given him an aspirin and been on their way, right? that does count as "treating" him.

as far as why cops do what they do, i have no idea. i have no idea why they try to say a pound of mexican brick weed is $50,000 worth of drugs off the streets.
 
cliffey501 said:
He stood his ground.That video is a smear campaign LOL.
Did you notice that cop checking out the back of his head? Also he was treated by SFD before going to the police station.
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Really? Just because he was checked out doesn't mean he had any injuries. We don't know he was treated for jack shit. We do know they had a look at him. If they treated him for the injuries he claimed then he would have bandages SOMEWHERE and blood stains SOMEWHERE. He was clean as slate. Not a drop on him.
 
sync0s said:
Something tells me he wasn't asking about Zimmerman. It was another well masked advance on you, UB.
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hmmm I thought he was talking about Zimmerman as well...please explain the undercut if it was made..I do enjoy a good trolling ( but only when done by an expert )
 
UncleBuck said:
unscathed. you said it.

you do realize that the SFD might have given him an aspirin and been on their way, right? that does count as "treating" him.

as far as why cops do what they do, i have no idea. i have no idea why they try to say a pound of mexican brick weed is $50,000 worth of drugs off the streets.
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I admit that I don't know the extent of SFD's treatment of Zimmer and neither do you. So, you totally discount the police report filed by officer Ayala, he just happened to lie and his lie turned out to be consistent with the two eye witness statements?
 
cliffey501 said:
I don't know you tell me? either he enjoys staring at mens heads or he was observing his injuries.
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injuries not looking like smashed skull. Smash skull and you are on your way to ER. not seeing broken nose either...but I do see a little bitch who likes to ride around with a pistol to feel big and bad.
 
sync0s said:
Exactly the reason why political discussion on this topic is only consisted of spin and bias. Hence, why in the world is this thread 222 pages deep?
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because people keep adding to it...check out post #2220 for an example. :-o but its awesome because we can go all off topic..like this post # 2216:hug:
 
Carne Seca said:
No one said shit about the lead investigator trying to change Austin's statement. It was the police taking his statement. I've already said that. Jesus. How thick can you get?
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I read a separate story about Austin's mom a day or two ago. She said the lead investigator tried to coerce her son into changing his story because it contradicted how he (the lead investigator) saw this incident.
 
Carne Seca said:
for once we agree on something. :p
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are you seeing o'donnell?

the head honcho leaves his house on sunday evening, zimmerman's dad, a retired judge, lives in the next town over....he is implying that there may be a conspiracy.

this shit is getting more and more interesting.
 
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