Towards the end of veg. Feedback?

Ooh yea and dont cut branches ...

and get yourself a microcope if you dont have one .. 100x microcope so you can see when your thricoms are cloudy/amber so you know when to haverst ..

How long does a clone take to begin vegging.. a week or two? I'm thinking about just keeping the clones on the same schedule with these ladies.. gettin them hooked up to the 12/12 hps right when they begin vegging.. i bet i could pull maybe a quarter-half o off them that way right?

bratattack said:

What yield would I expect from a 600w hps? Also, if I vegged for another 4 weeks, would that cause a bigger yield?

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yea the longer Veg the bigger plant = bigger yild .. if you can cover it with your HPS boath in wide but mostly in dept ..


I did Veg 7 weeks on my plants from seed before I begon 12/12 and Im not going to do that agin .. way to big for my tast I will do 4-5 weeks this time ..

but it all depense .. if you have time and is in no hurry and if you belive your light can cover them (I would realy keep em low like you do then)

about a 600W vs 400W .. well unless you have to much to cover or cant get your 400W close enough ther schouldt be much of a diffrent ..
if you have a 400W I would just keep that .. it fine .. specialy with only 2 plants .. 4 could even work if you keep em small and low (I will do 4 on my new run ..but as I said .. only 4-5 weeks Veg) and a 600W also make much more heat .. so sumtimes I acctualy wish I had a 400W cool tube insted of a 600W pootlight with no air cooling ..

How shall I keep them low? tying down with string?

like you do .. its working .. right

but you cant realy do anything about the stretch it will do the fist two weeks of flowering (look at my pics)

the trick is to keep em as low as possible before you start on 12/12 and do all the triming (I will remove 1/4 of the bottom grow)

a net could work Im sure .. no experiance ther .. but yea its all about keeping them low and most importent .. keeping a even canorpy so you can provide strong light for all your bud sites .. and non or few is down below wher light wont be strong enough to produce good buds ..

Usually the way I do it is when ur plants start to show preflowers then switch em over to 12/12 but I thought I read urs r clones so u know they r female but yeah the longer u veg a plant the bigger it will get but also think of how much room u have to grow a plant can at least double in size during flowering. Do u have room to let ur plant grow 5'+, if not u can train it, the other thing I was gonna say to help ur yield instead of only running ur t5 lights during veg u could throw ur hps light up in there if u have one and set up ur t5 light on the side of ur plant. That is if it won't create too much heat in ur grow room, ur plant would still veg as long as its gettin more than 12hrs of light just adds another spectrum and would increase yield. And since Slipon was showin(j/k) off his I'll show what I got under my 400w.
U can kinda c how I trained my plant to keep it shorter, I supercropped and tied down all the branches. Couple pics I just uploaded jamaican bagseed, and bagseed afgoo(not too sure). Afgoo is startin to look frosty. Oh and watcha guys think bout that 3rd pic tha jamaican think its indica or sativa, I was thinkin indica.

dvs1038 said:

Usually the way I do it is when ur plants start to show preflowers then switch em over to 12/12 but I thought I read urs r clones so u know they r female but yeah the longer u veg a plant the bigger it will get but also think of how much room u have to grow a plant can at least double in size during flowering. Do u have room to let ur plant grow 5'+, if not u can train it, the other thing I was gonna say to help ur yield instead of only running ur t5 lights during veg u could throw ur hps light up in there if u have one and set up ur t5 light on the side of ur plant. That is if it won't create too much heat in ur grow room, ur plant would still veg as long as its gettin more than 12hrs of light just adds another spectrum and would increase yield. And since Slipon was showin(j/k) off his I'll show what I got under my 400w.
U can kinda c how I trained my plant to keep it shorter, I supercropped and tied down all the branches.

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nice plants

and yea I agree .. use the HPS for Veg a littel ... as dvs says ..

I do it aswell .. actualy I remove my T5HO .. but I do run my HPS a week more in Veg so to speak ..

when I switch from T5HO to HPS I keep running it 18/6 (I run seedlings 24/7 and young veg plants 20/4) and use a week or so to slowely turn over to 12/12 ..

I cut a hour a day or so .. so the plant dont get to much stress ..

boath a stronger light and in diffrent Kelvin is enough to stress em ..

to cut the time from 18 to 12 in one go at the same time will just stress em even more ..

and the week I runn my HPS also make my girls grow a lot .. like the strong light I guess

Ooh yea .. and a REALY good advice I also got ...and wish I had follow .. and will follow from now on ..

is to repot em before 12/12 .. maybe 10-12 days before so they have time to find its feed in the new pots ..
sucks to get a rootbound plant 2 weeks in to flowering ..

I did even take it a step future and made a soil mix specialy for that (flowering) with Epsom salt .. Bat guano with high P. .. kelp .. Lime .. aso.

I don't want to put it in an even bigger pot, it'll grow too large

well then you think like I did .. you learn I guess ..

it will get bigger .. if you like it or not .. a bigger pot just allow it to stay healthy after it made the stretch ..

bratattack said:

I don't want to put it in an even bigger pot, it'll grow too large

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Just cause u put ur plant into a larger pot doesn't mean its gonna start growing outta control. That is the best reason 4 growing indoors, u control the veg time which in turn controls the plant size, well that and training the plant.

How well do carbon filters work?
I'm going to try to hook up a carbon filter>duct>flange on air cooled reflector. Then take another duct and attach it to the other flange>high pressure fan

Would this work? What is the best set up?

Also, will this really remove the smell entirely? It is very strong now. Do I need to make sure the door seal is not only light proof but also air tight to prevent smell from getting out elsewhere?? or does the carbon filter take care of everything?

Also, 4" or 6" for a 400w hps? Is there much difference for a 3x3 closet?

yea .. mine do remove all odour ..

and yea .. need to make it as air tight as possible ..
and atlest make it so you keep a littel under/negativ presure in ther (need to see tent be pulld in a littel bit ..½ a inch maybe)..

so your sure all the air that ecape the room go through the filter ..

here is how it is surpose to be




if you run a cool tube ..

use a pice of tube and connect it between filter and cool tube and a pice of tube on the other side connectet to the ventilator that pull air out of the room ..

need to place it high ..

and a passiv intake near the floor ...

around twise the size (here you need to try and find the right size to keep underpresure)


hope this helps ?


Edit: and go for the big ventilator ..

6" as filter do take some of the presure off ..

go for one that you can turn up and down ..

the 40$ more for a nice 6" is a good investment .. specialy if you have high temps ..

dunno if you have a ventilator allready ?