Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Yeah the Rev's soil reeks like steer shit and seaweed. 32 large overflowing cups of steer shit compost he calls for. My wife thinks I am out of my mind. Do you put holes in the tubs? I have 2 tubs busting at the seams. I honestly can't believe the amount of stuff in this soil. I think six weeks cooking is the goal. I watered the top layer gently with about a gallon each to moisten them. I will turn this over tomorrow and possibly add another gallon and keep turning this over daily for 15 days. Then it will sit for a month. I am excited. I have a manure layer to mix up and some other things this week. I also have to mix up a "mellow mix" for young plants. Once this starts rolling it is going to be easy to maintain. It is honestly 3ish hours of work from set up to clean up. Could be way faster outside. I went back and forth. I mixed a bunch too. A solid hour of mixing in the compost roller and by shovel.

I figured the cost roughly like this. Perlite at $30, EWC $42, Coco $20, and Organic soil at $17. 2 cubic feet each cost an estimated $110.00. The amendments cost very roughly $50. I have a bunch left over of most but I need to get at least $50 of restock. 8 cft of material total. Seems like it will be hot.

Gandalf, are you wetting your soil mix down with an AACT?

st0wandgrow said:

Gandalf, are you wetting your soil mix down with an AACT?

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Should I? I gave them each RO water. Is it teatime?

I like to. Let your beneficial microbes go to town on all of the organic goodies you've amended your soil with.

There will be more bio available nutrients when you put your cuts in.

I also add my tea bag ingredients (ewc, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, etc) right to the soil mix. Dump it right in there when you're done brewing your tea. It's essentially the same ingredients used to amend the soil .... at least for me.

Thank you. I am on it. I love making teas. I am going to whip up a Rev tea.

The manure layer. This is at the bottom layer of the bucket placed on top of 1-2 tbsp of blood meal (high N). It is hot. Do not get roots near this layer at the initial transplant. Make sure there is plenty of soil base between the two. 3 gallon containers are what the Rev uses the most.

1 gallon of steer manure compost
1 gallon small nugget perlite
2 cups coco coir
1 tbsp greensand
1 tbsp kelp meal
1 tbsp ground oyster shell
2 tbsp of granular rock phosphate

The majority of the bucket is the base mix. A tbsp or 2 layer of all purpose organic mix 5-5-5 is placed in the middle of that layer of base.

The upper 1/8 of the bucket is 1-2 tbsp bloodmeal and just below EWC +base. I'll take a close up of the bucket in the book.



I was thinking that a cool way to get started would be to layer your store bought FF, Roots, Humbolt, etc. I read on RIU where someone layers their OF below their HF with some fert layers. Thanks for looking.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Thank you. I am on it. I love making teas. I am going to whip up a Rev tea.

The manure layer. This is at the bottom layer of the bucket placed on top of 1-2 tbsp of blood meal (high N). It is hot. Do not get roots near this layer at the initial transplant. Make sure there is plenty of soil base between the two. 3 gallon containers are what the Rev uses the most.

1 gallon of steer manure compost
1 gallon small nugget perlite
2 cups coco coir
1 tbsp greensand
1 tbsp kelp meal
1 tbsp ground oyster shell
2 tbsp of granular rock phosphate

The majority of the bucket is the base mix. A tbsp or 2 layer of all purpose organic mix 5-5-5 is placed in the middle of that layer of base.

The upper 1/8 of the bucket is 1-2 tbsp bloodmeal and just below EWC +base. I'll take a close up of the bucket in the book.

I was thinking that a cool way to get started would be to layer your store bought FF, Roots, Humbolt, etc. I read on RIU where someone layers their OF below their HF with some fert layers. Thanks for looking.

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This is why I love this thread I am always learning Thanks again GandalfdaGreen

I started making my all purpose tea to water the new mix down.

Day one per gallon:

1 Tbs of kelp meal
1 tsp of high N bat guano
1 Tbs of all purpose dry organic nutrient/fertilizer
1 Tbs all natural molasses

Bubble for 24 hours

Day two per gallon. Add to above brew with the following:

1/4 cup FF Big Bloom
1 tsp of balanced fish fertilizer
1/2 cup EWC
10 drops of G.O. CaMg+

Bubble for additional 24 hours

Day 3 strain and use or just use. I am not going to strain this. Dilute 1:2 or 1:3.

Nice! You're going to activate that soil well. Alive with microbes

I'd love to do teas, but dang, that's a lot of diff products and I don't have deep pockets.

Any ideas on stewing teas from things around the house? like nana peels and such?

roseypeach said:

I'd love to do teas, but dang, that's a lot of diff products and I don't have deep pockets.

Any ideas on stewing teas from things around the house? like nana peels and such?

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You can make teas from banana peels and various other things but those are nutrient teas. If you want to make an aerated compost tea, you really only need a couple items. A good source of compost/vermicompost and a carb source such as organic molasses.

roseypeach said:

I'd love to do teas, but dang, that's a lot of diff products and I don't have deep pockets.

Any ideas on stewing teas from things around the house? like nana peels and such?

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Good to see you on the thread There sure is a lot of options for teas etc. So what I suggest is to start with one for vegging plants for now. ALL of the ones posted on this thread are excellent.

If you look a few pages back there is a nice microbe rich fruit 'tea' you can try out, preparation is around 2 weeks of patience, though.

Alternatively, Gandalf shared this link with me: www.kelp4less.com

I was surprised at how incredibly reasonable everything I need was. And with a few small packets of stuff you can make a LOT of teas indeed So in the long term, it becomes very easy on my overall expenses. My brain is spinning with all the info shoved into it in the last week or so, but looking at the results thee guys are getting is testimony enough.

Stick around, exciting things happen around here

Here is some dry buds without being cured. I swear this is not some hand picked bud, this is the next nug. Myco...you have inspired the photograpy. We owe it to Mrs. Myco again. Please thank her for me. Your camera is awesome. I am trying to get some good photos but I know nothing of lighting. Here are a few from today.




The above are SunMaiden leaves from today.

roseypeach said:

I'd love to do teas, but dang, that's a lot of diff products and I don't have deep pockets.

Any ideas on stewing teas from things around the house? like nana peels and such?

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Hey Rosey if your looking for a cheap recipe check out this guys page/blog he has some pretty inexpensive recipes http://gilcarandang.com/recipes/bloom-fertilizer/

Once you have the amendments you'll see they go along way in the teas. It's really not bad in this area. It's the whole soil mix crap that eats this stuff up.

I was in the flower room and I noticed that that 2 of the Kali Mists were shorter than their sisters. They are healthy and in great light too. This will be cool to see whick pheno is better. I hope the shorter for ease. The taller are a good 8 inches taller. The biggest plant in the room is the Kali Bubba. Big, strong, and healthy. Everything is green minus the blips here and there on a few lower leaves. The G13 gear is very impressive. The PE are all uniform in height and appearance.

I am a day away from watering them again. I am mixing a flowering tea but things look so good I may just go with plain water. This is where I get mixed up at times. Feeding. They are growing like crazy. Bud sets are in. I have not given them extra P yet. Advice?

Just wondering If you have ever bought products from kelp4less I bought some Mycorrhizal Fungi + Trichoderma from these guys and they gave me a coupon code for next time If anybody needs it pm me here is there link http://www.kelp4less.com/?utm_source=Kelp4less+Special+Offers&utm_campaign=664acd3bcc-Un-Authorized+Sale+-+August+Green+UP7_30_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_79706c4c04-664acd3bcc-75354449&mc_cid=664acd3bcc&mc_eid=8223535ae1

Everything looks amazing Gandalf! Those are some heavy pics bro, you have a heck of a camera friend. The triched out photos are really cool, and the ones of the Sun maiden leaves are beautiful man. I just have my point, and shoot, and you're making me jealous bro. I think now that you have bud sets, and it's been a couple of weeks since the flip I would think it's safe to start the P, and see em swell up for ya. I like R.O. H-P-K, G.O. Bio-Bud, and E.J. Meta-K for flower along with a nice high P bat guano, with a couple of other goodies in a super soil topdress mix. Then every time you water them ladies, even when you don't use food, they get fed really good nutrients. Now I know you know all this, I just try to keep it educational for anyone stopping in. I made some oil with the Menage a Trois I chopped the other day, and all my lord the smell of it is insane. I won't be trying any for a day or two, but I'll let you know what it's like. That menage a Trois has God Bud in it, and it seems the pheno I got was heavy with it. I can't wait to see what those Kali Bubba's do, I have 5 fem seeds of that strain, and am dieing to see what comes of your ladies. My buddy's Kali Mist is a shorter pheno, with a pretty short flowering time as well, so I know there is one in there for you bro. It doesn't have a huge amount of stretch to it either after the flip. Beautiful plant when grown right, and with organic soil. I'm uber excited to see what she does with the teas in hydro. Have a great night Gandalf, thanks for the photos. Peace out.

Here are some pictures of the Gage testers. Both are triched up. Really healthy.

Super Blue Dream x Freedom Baby:



Starlet Kush:

dlftmyers said:

Just wondering If you have ever bought products from kelp4less I bought some Mycorrhizal Fungi + Trichoderma from these guys and they gave me a coupon code for next time If anybody needs it pm me here is there link http://www.kelp4less.com/?utm_source=Kelp4less+Special+Offers&utm_campaign=664acd3bcc-Un-Authorized+Sale+-+August+Green+UP7_30_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_79706c4c04-664acd3bcc-75354449&mc_cid=664acd3bcc&mc_eid=8223535ae1

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I buy all the time. Top shelf.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Here are some pictures of the Gage testers. Both are triched up. Really healthy.

Super Blue Dream x Freedom Baby:

Starlet Kush:

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That's awesome you can defiantly see the trichomes forming, You got to love that and they look super happy