topping a FIMed plant

has anyone ever heard of / or tried to top an already FIMed plant. I have limited height and would like to top a second time. I have heard of people doing multiple tops but never a top of a FIMed plant. I dont see why it wouldnt work but havnt heard of anyone trying it.

Why not just fim again if your worried? Its basically the same thing. Screw topping though, for space, super cropping is the way to go. It's like some magical solution. I have about 12 colas on each palnt all within the same 3-4 inches height wise. Every time one branch goes a bit to high, fold it over, and bam! even canopy. Im 2 weeks into flower and I just cropped one like 4 days ago. I think I'm don topping since the flowers are starting to get more serious though. I highly recommend super cropping if you have an issue though.

Jankedyjoe said:

Why not just fim again if your worried? Its basically the same thing. Screw topping though, for space, super cropping is the way to go. It's like some magical solution. I have about 12 colas on each palnt all within the same 3-4 inches height wise. Every time one branch goes a bit to high, fold it over, and bam! even canopy. Im 2 weeks into flower and I just cropped one like 4 days ago. I think I'm don topping since the flowers are starting to get more serious though. I highly recommend super cropping if you have an issue though.

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yup tying down or super cropping is better than topping. more bud sites

I am looking into it. I am a little worried about snapping a plant. It obviosly works but i dont want to screw it up. I found a dude on you tube that gave a quick glimpse of super cropping anyone have any good links to super cropping pictures or videos. What is the theory behind it. Do the plants repair and grow or split and double. I have heard of twisting the main stalk to get the thick stalk that supposedly will help nutrients get to top of plant quicker. Never tried it myself. thanks for the insight

It scared me shitless at first. One straight up split into 4 parts an was wide open. They are strange as hell, but it makes sense biologicaly wise. The inside of the stem is hollow, its all of the long fibers that transport nutes and water. When you super crop you basically bruise them and then bend it over. It works best with newer growth because it gets soft and folders over fine. But you can do it to jankedy old stems. Just pinch and bruise as best you can, then fold over. If it splits and looks terrible, its fine (unless your significantly at risk of mold, thne it can be an issue, but in general is fine). When they heal it up, they make a knot basically and its much stronger and can support a lot more weight. For long branches, its great for that support at the top, so it doesnt break. It just makes the plant stronger and bushier. I strongly recommend it. It scared me to, I promise, but now I do it like its going out of style. I wouldnt reccomend it to late in flowering, but the first few weeks of flowering, its almost a good idea to fuck up the branches to get strange results.

Should i do the whole plant at the same time or do you take them a couple at a time. The video i saw the dude did his whole plant at the same time. typically they say to not stress the whole plant at the same time. when you snap it and it heals does aim up or does start aiming out. I would assume that is what makes it so bushy.

Do the entire plant, just pick a height and bring all branches down below that. The beauty of it is its really not a lot of stress. You basically bruise the steam so it folds over without breaking. The only thing that matters is the fibers, they transport the nutes and fluids. This way, they dont break, they just bend. Sometimes the stem gets funky, but i havent notices any really slowing down of growth even when I do it to flowering plants. If you f' it up a bunch I could seed issues, but for the most part, its like some magical cure all to space issues. Just remember to do it right above a node and to pinch hard, the squishier you make it, the less likely it is to splinter. If you do it on fresh growth, sometimes it will stand back up in no time. You dont really want the branches to stand all the way back though, it negates the folding over you did.

thanks for the help everybody. I just did all of my plants. I read where you start at the top and as the lower branches reach the top do them then. That is the strategy i am using. I think i am going to super crop again then reFIM this way i think i will have both all level branches and an ass load of "tops".

i dont think i did the super crop correctly. There very next day the plants are all aiming straight up again. Some of the them are still bent some of them you cant tell they were ever bent. All of them are aiming straight back up. Think i am going to wait another day or two and FIM again.

try topping lower and squishing the stems more. Some plants will strand directly back up within a day, especially if you dont anticipate it and do it harder. Go like one node lower and squish them so hard your fingers hurt. It's okay if the stem splinters a bit. Well, saying that, also, be reasonable with it, dont straight up tear the stem, remember, just squish.

interesing...... i have never heard of this manuver but i sounds completly reasonable. i have a super silver haze grow now and was planing on growing the to 1.5 meters then hang fishing weights in the top so it bends down and grows down on its own. have you ever down or heard of this low stress training.... how do you tink it will work.

King D.

I did low stress training on my first grow and both work, low stress training is basicaly the same thing, except well, less stress. One big thing about topping though is the bend gets all funky looking and becomes much stronger. Low stress training seems to help with strength a bit also, but for people without really good circulation making stems thicker through topping works well to make sure buds dont break off.

The issue I had was my plants were to big and the stems broke when I tried on a few of them. When you squish a stem and break it, its really not a lot of actual breakage, it just looks bad, its still transporting like 90% (I am honestly guessing) to 100% (if its like new growth that doesnt splinter when you bend it over). When you break them by messing up with LST, its a lot more actual breakage and causes more issues.

I would not do the weight thing, just bend them over and tie them. Most of my break issues was when I tried using heavy rope to tie them down. They looked fine, but when I came back (happened twice before I realized it was the rope and not me bending to far) they broke under the continued stress. The buds will weigh the stems down plenty. I went and got clothes line for like a dollar. Cut it into like 15 6ft sections and melted the tips. Its nice and light and has some give.

If you really dont have anything to tie them to, then you could try the weight thing, but be careful and good luck!

Next time you top try rolling it between the thumb and index finger to crush it a bit. then lean it over slower and a little at a time. I prefer to do this just before watering because it seems more pliable and doesn't crack / split nearly as often.
Tie it down until the bend starts to expand from growth, then you can untie if you'd like.
Find it works well this way for me with rarely a issue.

did another fim last week. Going to wait till next week and do another supercrop. Starting to lower my nutes to switch over. figure i can get a supercrop in 5 days then maybe one more the following week and swith them to 12/12. If i dont get the supercrop to work i will have to start LST. I dont have a lot of room. Only have a couple of plants and the height is varying from 12" to 20" if the 20" gets much bigger by the end of flower it will be to big for my room.

I think you are right i probably didnt squish enough. I did get them fairly mushy but not super mushy. Is there any "rule" on how close to old knot you should re supercrop.

When they heal should they straighten up perfectly or have a slight bend at the knot. I thought i remember someone saying it should bend a little from the randomness of the restructuring of the cells. Once again thanks Jank for the info. You definetly convinced me to try and i am not sorry i did.