top center of forming buds looks like yellow dots is this normal?

First, i think this is normal on fast growing buds, just wanted confirmation. Day16 or so. there are no male flowers anywhere on the plant... unless these dots are male flowers forming but i just think this is fast growing buds with light centers or something... right?
i did high stress train about 2 weeks back, nothing i don't normally do... none the less i think these are female and forming normal buds but I am slightly worried its not normal.
hopefully it just signals the end of stretch because this plant is growing way too fast. system upgrades are rocking hard.... namely 95% hydroton with 5" x 5" x 5" coco/perlite "core" so almost no coco at all in about 5 gallons of hydroton inside grow bag inside 8 gallons of hydroton in 9 gal tote. thats a a5 gal grow bag surrounded by hydroton inside a 9gal tote watered 3min every 2 hrs, have never seen such explosive growth in the first 2 weeks.... then i dialed in the water @45 seconds every 30 min and its scary. i hope it slows down.

Are you referring to the bud forming in the center? I don't see dots

I had the same occurrence happen in one of my two plants (same cultivar) this cycle, one is flowering “normally” the other is much slower and exhibited what you describe above. That plant has since stated to look more normal with a more rounded stigma pattern, but it’s much slower and looks as if it will be a much smaller yielding plant at this time.

Don't know the cause but I don’t think it’s anything to be too concerned about. I wish I had a better answer for you.

I was always taught to read the plant. This plant is saying something if you ask me because it’s defined not random (see example below). I have no idea what it’s saying. Can you take some photos of the whole plant?

ooof-da said:

I was always taught to read the plant. This plant is saying something if you ask me because it’s defined not random (see example below). I have no idea what it’s saying. Can you take some photos of the whole plant?

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the last photo in the line IS the whole plant.... tops only. trust me you're not going to see much if i shoot the whole plant.
what you've circled is all new growth tips. I think what the plant is saying is I just grew like a MF and now its time to slow down and BUD up. i think the stretch is stopping. I will say that i noticed the same as you.... were just zoomed right in to the center of the fastest growing part of the plant... I have a feeling everything will clear itself up in no time.. not that there's a problem. could be were getting too close to the led but nah, not quite yet. plant looks terribly happy. i might try and shoot that some top tonight so we can see how its developing...

ALPHA.GanjaGuy said:

Are you referring to the bud forming in the center? I don't see dots

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yes from standing height looking down on the plant these centers of every top look like orange or yellow dots... or small Balls... you know everyones worst nightmare... nanners.

Rufus T. Firefly said:

I had the same occurrence happen in one of my two plants (same cultivar) this cycle, one is flowering “normally” the other is much slower and exhibited what you describe above. That plant has since stated to look more normal with a more rounded stigma pattern, but it’s much slower and looks as if it will be a much smaller yielding plant at this time.

Don't know the cause but I don’t think it’s anything to be too concerned about. I wish I had a better answer for you.

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in my instance this plant is growing faster than any i've ever had.... i did just increase the H20 frequency by a factor of 4x and it responded positively. i also took the ppms from 1100-1400 .7 scale/ again positive response and buds have just started to form up.

I think it's a case of they do what they do. I never run the same thing twice ( or I haven't so far I went on a seed buying binge during the pandemic so I'm trying to work through some different gear lol ) anyway point being it just may be the way some plants look but I've never seen it be this pronounced.

Live and learn I guess.

Rufus T. Firefly said:

I think it's a case of they do what they do. I never run the same thing twice ( or I haven't so far I went on a seed buying binge during the pandemic so I'm trying to work through some different gear lol ) anyway point being it just may be the way some plants look but I've never seen it be this pronounced.

Live and learn I guess.

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same... go blues!

LGB!

all is well.... that was "normal'


and 5 days later...



plant is rocking out hard IMO. top feeding 30seconds every 20 min, hydroton in a growbag in a bin with more hydroton ..
cracked a whole bunch of stems the other day, most stood right back up...
"jelly pie" from greenpoint seeds... way too robust.

What type of light? Intensity? Meaning PAR level. And distance from the top of the plant.

hotrodharley said:

What type of light? Intensity? Meaning PAR level. And distance from the top of the plant.

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ahh.... yes indeed. that may be it.

not sure the par

spiderfarmer 2000 or 200watt . really bright and very close. just above the fan (see my avitar). dimmable and I like to dim it later in bloom because i don't need to nuke the tops.

I like the lower buds better.

everything looks normal now and I've seen this before maybe to a lesser degree... this plant is just nutso

another 2 days or so... this plant jumps every time I hit refresh on the camera. hydroton with top feed... 30seconds feed every 15 min. very happy ... all these tops got bent and popped ... bend and pop technique(i bend the top over and then squeeze the knucle and it goes POP... cracks righ in half).. LOL and they all stood right back up.... ferocious, vigorous bitch, rapid bud formation... Jacks RO in RO .. easy once its set up. loving this one here... its scary. also i've never taken a grow past 1200ppm for a while.. this plant is at 1600 now. I watch too... none of my other plants wanted it that high. its the hydroton roots pretty sure. was always in coco , large tub hand watered... but still Jelly Pie from greenpoint rocks the funky beat. strong hybrid imo

if its a good LED you should be able to put them within an inch of the light and not burn them...

hard to see due to angle of photo but those tops are less than two inches from the light, full blast on dimmer, and the leaves are fine...

Antidote Man said:

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hard to see due to angle of photo but those tops are less than two inches from the light, full blast on dimmer, and the leaves are fine...

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you know whatever.
look at all those upper buds... they look like they won't stop growing (white hairs all over).... there's limits to everything..
1" from the light is not necessarily "better" yeah i can get them right up there but why push it, so i can have some bleached white bud? I want more stand off from the light in my grows if only for MY eyes looking in....
lets not be silly.
also at those heights the center buds start to block a lot of light.... my canopy is mostly flat unlike yours

its the strain, longer flowering period, that's why there's so many white pistils. the strain to the right is much closer to being done. whatever works for you.. just sayin..

Antidote Man said:

if its a good LED you should be able to put them within an inch of the light and not burn them...

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That depends on the power. This is not true and not good advice.

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hard to see due to angle of photo but those tops are less than two inches from the light, full blast on dimmer, and the leaves are fine...

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What is that thing pulling from the wall? 100 watts at 100%?

hotrodharley said:

What is that thing pulling from the wall? 100 watts at 100%?

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Its a bestva 2000w pro. Its bright as hell, has a fan that blows aceoss it so theres little heaf ans the plants are fins. Check my grow journal, link below

There is no way I could keep my hlg 650r that close with out cooking the plant … even with the HLG 300 L Bspec that close ..