tiny little wite bugs? what the hell are they?

ok heres the deal. the last three times iv started some seeds about a week in, when they start showing their first set of single leaves they stop growing. and all have eventualy died. under inspection i found these tiny ass white bugs, a few crawling on the top of the soil, but a hole shitload around the roots. Also i had one seed that didnt come up at all. when i dug it up i found the shell of the seed with hundreds of the little basterds inside like they were eating it, and the root that had germinated was gone? Dose anyone know what the hell these are or how to get rid of them? Im using 8 double tube floro shop one warm one cool lights and a 50/50 mix of mirical grow organic potting mix and perlite. anything helps thanks........

You mentioned the last three times. Are you talking about totally separate times with different strands?

okiestoner said:

ok heres the deal. the last three times iv started some seeds about a week in, when they start showing their first set of single leaves they stop growing. and all have eventualy died. under inspection i found these tiny ass white bugs, a few crawling on the top of the soil, but a hole shitload around the roots. Also i had one seed that didnt come up at all. when i dug it up i found the shell of the seed with hundreds of the little basterds inside like they were eating it, and the root that had germinated was gone? Dose anyone know what the hell these are or how to get rid of them? Im using 8 double tube floro shop one warm one cool lights and a 50/50 mix of mirical grow organic potting mix and perlite. anything helps thanks........

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no idea, get sum new soil fer sure tho, dont take any chances they sound like mean lil basterds

I bought miracle grow organic soil one time. I tested it with my soil tester. The PH level was 6. I found some good natural dirt outside and my seeds did better with that. Have you used the same dirt each time? You mentioned "the last 3 times".

Search for pics of soil lice. Do they look like that? If so, you might have some other problem - I'm pretty sure that they are harmless (just eat decomposing matter, not roots).

yea iv use the same strain and the same soil eveytime switched closets once though seemed to help at first but they came back.. ill try some new soil though i herd of people haveing alot of problems with mir gro hopefuly that dose it thanks peps

im almost sure your soil is infested by some kind of pest

how often do you water?????

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Id switch to some kik ass expensive grow shop soil. I went with this cheap organic crap because I was on budget and ended up with whiteflies, silverfish. Just read on another thread something about sterile soil. DOnt know much about it but sounds like the crap me and you need. Bugs suck.

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yea iv use... the same soil eveytime...

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therein lies the problem....
get some different soil.. and different pots.
use a 10% bleach and water solution to wipe down the closet before you start another.

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you can sterilize soil by baking it in an oven @ 325 degrees for 90 mins.
just dont forget to add some moisture to it before you transplant or plant into the sterilized soil.
perlite shouldnt go in the oven tho.....

ok im tryn to find some quality soil, but im havin problems. i live in oklahoma city, ok and i cant find any place that carrys fox farm or some other hq soil. anybody out there from okc or know where to get some good stuff. dont relly want to order from the net shipping charges will be crazy

American Plant Products & Services
9200 N.W. 10th, Oklahoma City, OK
(405) 787-4833

I'm sure you can fin fox farm soil there

lighthouse said:

You mentioned the last three times. Are you talking about totally separate times with different strands?

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And do you mean STRAINS?

hell yea man thats whats up thak you thank you

white flies are common around my neck of the woods.neem oil is the best solution

Ive been using Ortho Eco Max its an oil based spray that I havent heard anyone else using for this yet and its been very effective. Been misting in front of fans every 5-6 days for three weeks(plants still happy) and has reduced white flies by 90%. >>>>> IAM5ONED..... Good advice one making soil sterile. Thanks man.. Great advice!!!!!!