Time to flush ?

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 7, 2020

Day 55 of flower leaves have slowly started to yellow, is this time to flush and go for the fade... Or shall I keep feeding? Is it very close to week 8 .. so 2 week flush ? What's your thoughts ?

TheDifferenceX · Mar 7, 2020

Those girls look nice!

I would just taper off the feeding and give plain water weeks 9-10-11 until harvest.

Great work!

Lpena007 · Mar 7, 2020

Week 4, don’t think this 150watt will make them any bigger

budman111 · Mar 7, 2020

Cleanfinish93 said:
Day 55 of flower leaves have slowly started to yellow, is this time to flush and go for the fade... Or shall I keep feeding? Is it very close to week 8 .. so 2 week flush ? What's your thoughts ?

Those are nowhere near ready, at least 3-4 weeks before harvest.

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 8, 2020

TheDifferenceX said:
Those girls look nice!

I would just taper off the feeding and give plain water weeks 9-10-11 until harvest.

Great work!

Thankyou much appreciated.

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 8, 2020

budman111 said:
Those are nowhere near ready, at least 3-4 weeks before harvest.

It is only a 9-11 week strain, I'm in week 8 and the calxys are swollen, so surely 2 weeks and they would be ripe? After 5 days off darkness too..

Thundercat · Mar 8, 2020

Cleanfinish93 said:
It is only a 9-11 week strain, I'm in week 8 and the calxys are swollen, so surely 2 weeks and they would be ripe? After 5 days off darkness too..

Ignore the “9-11week strain”. You have a different grow environment then the breeder did. Your plant 100% has 4+ weeks left. The stigma are all still completely white which means the plant is still actively growing new bud for you. AFTER they turn reddish and shrink THEN the bracts will swell. Yours have not awoken yet they are just growing. The swell takes 1-3 weeks. During that time the plant will significantly increase in density and weight. It will also ripen which means AFTeR the swell is when you should be checking trichomes to decide your finish time.

If you are going to flush you would want to wait until during or after the swell to do that. Personally after 15 years of growing and doing multiple side by sides I don’t flush, it doesn’t do anything for the plant.

Superbad421 · Mar 8, 2020

Flushing is for toilets also I agree three to four weeks left if not more...

etruthfx · Mar 8, 2020

Thundercat said:
Ignore the “9-11week strain”. You have a different grow environment then the breeder did. Your plant 100% has 4+ weeks left. The stigma are all still completely white which means the plant is still actively growing new bud for you. AFTER they turn reddish and shrink THEN the bracts will swell. Yours have not awoken yet they are just growing. The swell takes 1-3 weeks. During that time the plant will significantly increase in density and weight. It will also ripen which means AFTeR the swell is when you should be checking trichomes to decide your finish time.

If you are going to flush you would want to wait until during or after the swell to do that. Personally after 15 years of growing and doing multiple side by sides I don’t flush, it doesn’t do anything for the plant.

Since you've been growing so long, may I ask, how long after you see the last pistol turn red is time to harvest for you? Just wondering.

Thundercat · Mar 8, 2020

etruthfx said:
Since you've been growing so long, may I ask, how long after you see the last pistol turn red is time to harvest for you? Just wondering.

That depends on the plant not a calendar. I don’t count weeks any more. Usually most plants need 2-3 weeks after the stigma have turned though. They need that time to finish swelling up internally even though they don’t look like they are growing much on the outside.

Superbad421 · Mar 8, 2020

Lpena007 said:
View attachment 4498136 View attachment 4498137Week 4, don’t think this 150watt will make them any bigger

What strain?

etruthfx · Mar 8, 2020

Thundercat said:
That depends on the plant not a calendar. I don’t count weeks any more. Usually most plants need 2-3 weeks after the stigma have turned though. They need that time to finish swelling up internally even though they don’t look like they are growing much on the outside.

So you're saying people are cutting 2-3 weeks prematurely normally?

Budzbuddha · Mar 8, 2020

You got weeks to go .... keep feeding them so they bulk.

Lpena007 · Mar 8, 2020

Superbad421 said:
What strain?

GG4

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 8, 2020

Thundercat said:
Ignore the “9-11week strain”. You have a different grow environment then the breeder did. Your plant 100% has 4+ weeks left. The stigma are all still completely white which means the plant is still actively growing new bud for you. AFTER they turn reddish and shrink THEN the bracts will swell. Yours have not awoken yet they are just growing. The swell takes 1-3 weeks. During that time the plant will significantly increase in density and weight. It will also ripen which means AFTeR the swell is when you should be checking trichomes to decide your finish time.

If you are going to flush you would want to wait until during or after the swell to do that. Personally after 15 years of growing and doing multiple side by sides I don’t flush, it doesn’t do anything for the plant.

Thanks thundercat for your input ! I have just checked my ph pen and its 1.0 out so I have actually been feeding at 7.2 not 6.2 this could explain the yellowing... I am going to continue feeding for another couple of weeks! Thanks again

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 8, 2020

Thundercat said:
Ignore the “9-11week strain”. You have a different grow environment then the breeder did. Your plant 100% has 4+ weeks left. The stigma are all still completely white which means the plant is still actively growing new bud for you. AFTER they turn reddish and shrink THEN the bracts will swell. Yours have not awoken yet they are just growing. The swell takes 1-3 weeks. During that time the plant will significantly increase in density and weight. It will also ripen which means AFTeR the swell is when you should be checking trichomes to decide your finish time.

If you are going to flush you would want to wait until during or after the swell to do that. Personally after 15 years of growing and doing multiple side by sides I don’t flush, it doesn’t do anything for the plant.

Quick question thundercat.. does flushing cause the plant to change colour? Because that's what I want to achieve "the fade" or is this a total myth? Peaceeee bro

Hot Diggity Sog · Mar 8, 2020

Thundercat said:
Ignore the “9-11week strain”. You have a different grow environment then the breeder did. Your plant 100% has 4+ weeks left. The stigma are all still completely white which means the plant is still actively growing new bud for you. AFTER they turn reddish and shrink THEN the bracts will swell. Yours have not awoken yet they are just growing. The swell takes 1-3 weeks. During that time the plant will significantly increase in density and weight. It will also ripen which means AFTeR the swell is when you should be checking trichomes to decide your finish time.

If you are going to flush you would want to wait until during or after the swell to do that. Personally after 15 years of growing and doing multiple side by sides I don’t flush, it doesn’t do anything for the plant.

"...it doesn’t do anything for the plant" - Yes it does. It makes it all brown and yellow and decrepit looking. Other than that, everything you said I agree with 100%

Thundercat · Mar 8, 2020

Cleanfinish93 said:
Quick question thundercat.. does flushing cause the plant to change colour? Because that's what I want to achieve "the fade" or is this a total myth? Peaceeee bro

Flushing starves the plant. If it changes color during that flush it’s because the plant is cannibalizing the leaves for nutrients in order to feed the buds it’s trying to grow. If you want to reduce feed near the end go for it or even use plain water. In reality unless you were over feeding already, which it doesn’t look like, then the flush does nothing. Causing the plant to fade might have pretty fall colors but isnt helping the plant create the best buds it can. The best smoke comes from healthy plants that are grown until fully ripe and then SLOW dried. Curing won’t hurt anything but my buds never last that long. The flavor and smell is so strong that people want them as soon as they are properly dry.

Thundercat · Mar 8, 2020

etruthfx said:
So you're saying people are cutting 2-3 weeks prematurely normally?

Yep I’m saying that most new growers, most commercial growers and even some veteran hobby growers are regularly chopping that early.

I did it when I was younger and didn’t know any better. The info that is out there really isn’t easy for a new grower to interpret. Until they actually understand the plant and can read the signs it’s giving they don’t even know they are chopping too early most of the time. Then when I or someone else explains how the maturation process goes and they actually wait the extra weeks and realize they were barely getting high from the other stuff usually they appreciate the knowledge. New growers especially are afraid of “degrading” and ruining the buds. But they don’t realize how long it actually takes for that to happen.

Cleanfinish93 · Mar 9, 2020

Thundercat said:
Yep I’m saying that most new growers, most commercial growers and even some veteran hobby growers are regularly chopping that early.

I did it when I was younger and didn’t know any better. The info that is out there really isn’t easy for a new grower to interpret. Until they actually understand the plant and can read the signs it’s giving they don’t even know they are chopping too early most of the time. Then when I or someone else explains how the maturation process goes and they actually wait the extra weeks and realize they were barely getting high from the other stuff usually they appreciate the knowledge. New growers especially are afraid of “degrading” and ruining the buds. But they don’t realize how long it actually takes for that to happen.

I would say everyone of my 4 grows I have harvested early... I am making sure this one goes right till the end, I really want the density to come through and fully ripen

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