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BongTokinAlcoholic420 said:

Well the dream was a sexual dream about my sister. I woke up and felt very guilty, then I realized that it couldn't have been anyother way. The fact of me being depressed and everything else. I denied it for a year and a half then during this "DXM trip" I realized I could be on to something. Like I can sit here and say I know for a fact that we are not in control at all. Like right after the big bang, there was a specific destination for all that energy and stuff. And having a deju trip, in my theory, is the mind trying to tell us that we are living in this constant moment in which has already happened.
And yes it is Osowatamie state hospital, and they only let me get on wensdays and fridays. LOL
But I should be out sometime during next week. Then I can get into more detail about everything, if you all would like. Peace for now.

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Oh wow. O.O

Well. Looking forward to your return buddy. Stay safe.

Thank you for dropping by and keeping us posted.
Please understand that as much as your revelation
intrigues me ... I am more concerned about your
well-being.
You have mentioned about depression .... and revelation as per
your trip ...perhaps .... this whole thing was a good turn of events .... bringing things
to surface for you to understand. Please realize that if you have difficulties
in accepting things .... there is many people you can talk to.

Please keep us posted when you get a chance .... and get well.
You have many friends here.

BongTokinAlcoholic420 said:

Well the dream was a sexual dream about my sister. I woke up and felt very guilty, then I realized that it couldn't have been anyother way. The fact of me being depressed and everything else. I denied it for a year and a half then during this "DXM trip" I realized I could be on to something. Like I can sit here and say I know for a fact that we are not in control at all. Like right after the big bang, there was a specific destination for all that energy and stuff. And having a deju trip, in my theory, is the mind trying to tell us that we are living in this constant moment in which has already happened.
And yes it is Osowatamie state hospital, and they only let me get on wensdays and fridays. LOL
But I should be out sometime during next week. Then I can get into more detail about everything, if you all would like. Peace for now.

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Just so you know, dreams about having sex with ones you know, like your sister, are generally about you wanting acceptance from that person. They're disturbing, I know, but the underlying cause isn't.

it seems that as soon as the big bang happenend, their was only one destination for all that energy. i also don't just see it as a coincedence that we exist. their was a rapper who had a bad pcp trip and said that god told him to eat her or the world would end. i kinda think it could be true that it was god. and i feel that i know for a fact that every little detail in our lives are determined. and for me it's like this constant thinking of the same thing. but just slightly different. sometimes i think theirs no point of living and the feeling is really deep. but then it's gone like 5 minutes later.

but to me, i thought i figured out something that was as big as albert einstein, that's why i was acting crazy and eventually ended up here. but i should be fine, eventually. you guys are the shit by the way

I don't believe in Predestination. I shape my life how I see fit. I have millions of choices to make each day, and I make the ones I see fit.

Even if our fate is predetermined, at least we have the sense of free will. Maybe it just needs to work that way. Also, if we aren't really able to change anything, then what's the point in worrying about it? Ignorance is (can be) bliss, intentional or not. Plus, if everything really is "scripted," then aren't you the least bit curious to see the rest of the play?

Having no power does not make one weak.

Examining the concept of the big bang ... as a focal point of origin ... as per the given blast ... it is easy to conclude ... that matter is nothing but frozen light ....(this holds true in physics) ... hence .... it has weight and feel .... it holds space. This explains our state as humans living in this reality at hand. I can understand and parallel your thought process ... what I have a hard time grasping ... is the pre-determinism which you describe.

Do you speak of .... predetermined outcome aka scripted .... as in playing out its course ..... or do you speak of the current state of .... reality as predetermined ...

Also, have you entertained the notion that you have tapped into understanding how ... this particular dimension works ..... but there are many others ... beyond your vision ... perhaps you have reached Level 2 of comprehension (where everyday reality is Level 1) ... without taking into consideration the fact that there is a Level 3 and 4 ... to be tapped into at a later date.

I am not looking for a sense of purpose ... I am just trying to think outside of the box.
Hmmmm ...

Good to see you buddy !!

Daath said:

Even if our fate is predetermined, at least we have the sense of free will. Maybe it just needs to work that way. Also, if we aren't really able to change anything, then what's the point in worrying about it? Ignorance is (can be) bliss, intentional or not. Plus, if everything really is "scripted," then aren't you the least bit curious to see the rest of the play?

Having no power does not make one weak.

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yes, i'm estatic.

Puffer Fish said:

Examining the concept of the big bang .... as a focal point of origin ... as per the given blast ..... it is easy to conclude ... that matter is nothing but frozen light ....(this holds true in physics) .... hence .... it has weight and feel .... it holds space. This explains our state as humans living in this reality at hand. I can understand and parallel your thought process .... what I have a hard time grasping .... is the pre-determinism which you describe.

Do you speak of .... predetermined outcome .... as in playing out its course ..... or do you speak of the current state of .... reality as predetermined ...

Good to see you buddy !!

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yes, like the universe is like a movie that is already made. we watch it knowing it's already determined, but we are still amazed by it.
and maybe that's why we have deja vu. that would explain alot.

btw inbox full puffer

this could be just an obsessive thought that isn't true. but either way i'm going to be thinking about it for almost every moment for the rest of my life. don't know if that could be a good thing or a bad thing. guess we'll find out.

Inbox empty, thank you sir !!

That sounds very interesting ... can you tell me why we .... humans are amazed by it ... universe as it unfolds in the way it does ...
Again ... I am asking to further understand your vision.

Logic is man made ... a mere concept which helps us justify within the framework of OUR (persons at hand) reality ... thus there might be no answer to my question.

it's the same sense you get when watching a movie, we're happy while it's happening but sad when it's over. but in our case we don't know that our "movie" or "life" is already destined. if it is the case. at which point i can't prove it, but i can experience it. like i can experience the feeling of being in the moment in which has happened. and it is the greatest feeling i've ever had, my entire life.
but it sucks though cause sometimes i can't tell if we have free will, or if we are not in control AT ALL. and those times suck, but i'm trying to cope...

and i might not even be understanding you question, which i apologize for.

but i think we are amazed because we have no clue what's going to happen, whether good or bad. i hope that helped.


BTW i will defidently be going deeper into this subject. Probuably not til i get out though, which is next tuesday

Gat ya brother ... I have something for you to watch here .... if you have time .... HERE

I wonder what you think of Allan Moore.

their computers won't allow video's. but i will watch it soon as i can.
but basically what i'm trying to say is every action is a reaction to something in the past. dating all the way back to the big bang. like i don't know why i know this, and i don't want to know but maybe it's a good thing for the world. i feel as if nobody in the world is in control of ANYTHING AT ALL. now if i go out and tell people this, they'll think i'm crazy. so i'm not really talking about it alot here. can't wait til tuesday though...

let's say i was to get fired for a spot i didn't clean up. but someone was going to clean it up but he didn't because of something i did to him in the past. their would have been no reason not to do what i did to him in the past, so therefor i was destined to get fired. idk if that makes any sense.

does that make any sense to anybody?

Time does exist.............. Its called Spacetime though, and its our general 3 dimensions we all know (X, Y, and Z in elementary terms) and then the 4th dimension of time, which we know we can move faster or slower, but we cant move it backwards. Atomic clocks at different altitudes record time at different speeds. Its all upon the observer.

Thats why I like mushrooms, time stops. Its like free life.