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passthat2me

passthat2me

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SativaMe@420 said:
OK, first off I wasn't telling you what do I was merely giving my advice based off what I do and learned from many growers that have been doing this for years and know there shit, one of the guys I learned this "Rule of Thumb" from is literally a Plant Guru, he has a degree in botany and he's been studying plants and plant science since he was twelve and he's now 36, this guy has forgotten more about plants than either of us will ever know, he was like the 10th person to tell me about the "Rule of Thumb" 1 month of growth per gal so it would be pretty ignorant of me to not heed there advice, if three (and especially more) experienced professionals agree on something its practically guaranteed to be sound advice. Now even if your doing SOG keeping them short with basically one cola per plant I assure you 1gal pots is not as you put it "Just right", your going to have a minimum (depending on strain) of 6-8weeks flowering time so after 1month of growth the roots are going to start to get bound and after 2months they absolutely will be, if you think that doesn't prevent the plants from reaching their maximum potential then I don't know what to tell you. Also, if you only grow based off "your experiences" and not "the next persons experiences" then why are you even here on this forum, just to boast, because what your basically saying is you can't take anyone's advice because your only growing based off "your experiences" right? That's just asinine IMHO, there is soooo much about plants we still don't know and were making advancements and discoveries every day, new techniques, new equipment, new ways to do things, how can you ever evolve if you have the mind set that your way is the only way??? I will check back in 8wks like you said, however I doubt I'll learn anything I don't already know, If I do though I'm a big enough man to put my foot in my mouth and say you told me so, however I'm so confident that's not going to happen that I'm not going to wash my feet for the next 8wks, LMFAO!!
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lol...i doubt you'll learn anything aswell...THAT..we fully agree on...and i could care less what u do..return dont return...it wont effect me or my grow...all i do is produce beautiful crops..in and out..year after year after year..
 
passthat2me

passthat2me

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angryblackman said:
Yes we do.. And I have met Sativame@420 and he is a cool guy. (I bought my Lumatek from him) He is learning a shit ton about lighting and could learn from you as well. Hit me up with a PM when your stuff is done. I have a couple weeks on mine and I am not making any claims on potency. It works for me and that's all that matters. LOL :)
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will do playa.........
 
SativaMe@420

SativaMe@420

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passthat2me said:
lol...i doubt you'll learn anything aswell...THAT..we fully agree on...and i could care less what u do..return dont return...it wont effect me or my grow...all i do is produce beautiful crops..in and out..year after year after year..
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Well if I came off rude or disrespectful I apologize, when you made the comment that I should "continue growing based on other peoples experiences" and you'll "continue growing based on your own experiences", well I felt that was a little judgmental & conceded and I admit it put me on the offensive, however if your cool with angryblackman then your cool with me, respect 4 respect, the past is the past and I'll move forward with an open mind, If angryblackman vouches for you then I'm sure I can learn something from you.
As for the whole "Rule of Thumb" thing Ive just heard time and time again from experienced growers that 1 month of growth per gal is best even if your doing SOG, however you guys seem pretty adamant about 1gal pots working just fine so maybe I'll give it a try, the whole point of SOG is to fit as many plants into a space as possible so smaller pots size would make sense, I have seen some pretty nice colas grown in those small red plastic cups so it must not bother the plats too much. I was originally intending on using 2-3gal fabric pots but my go to guy at the hydro shop turned me on to Superoots Air -Pots (supposedly the best pots you can get), apparently their root pruning abilities prevents root circling which allows you to use a much smaller pot size vs standard plastic and even fabric pots. I was going to use the 1.5gal SR Air-Pots but based on what your saying the 1gal should be fine? Not only would that make it slightly cheaper but I could fit 21 in my space vs 18 of the 1.5gal so really it sounds like a win win.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SativaMe@420 said:
I was told by a VERY experienced grower that the rule of thumb is 1 month of growth per gallon, like I said I'm sure he can get away with it but I guarantee they will do better in bigger pots, just MHO but what the hell do I know, lol.
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you're very right. you can get away with 1 gallon, but by the time flowering is nearly done, the roots are sucking up the water so quickly that watering and nuting becomes a pain in the ass. even 2 gallons is tough by the end.
 
SativaMe@420

SativaMe@420

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UncleBuck said:
you're very right. you can get away with 1 gallon, but by the time flowering is nearly done, the roots are sucking up the water so quickly that watering and nuting becomes a pain in the ass. even 2 gallons is tough by the end.
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So in your opinion dose this pertain to SOG growing also, Ive heard this from SEVERAL experienced growers but after posting it I was told I was wrong, apparently there are quite a few people who believe that 1gal pots are best for SOG, they claim that not only can you fit more plants in a space but they don't have any issues with root circling (becoming root bound), I find that very hard to believe especially with strains that run over 8wks flowering time, 2 months+ of growth in 1gal pots just doesn't seem right at all, however they are very adamant that it works, eventually I'm just going to have to do a comparison test: Same strain, same soil, same everything except 1gal pots vs 2gal pots in SOG and compare yield, quality and potency, has anyone already done this?
 
mnmobbin

mnmobbin

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UncleBuck said:
again, 1 gallon can work, it just gets to be a pain in the ass to water as often as they need.
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depends on your enviroment. I just harvested a few in .3 gal airpots with the based moved down making it a .5 gal or so. Temps at canopy are 73-78 lights on drop to 65 lights off, rh 50-60 in a 1kw 4x4 tent. Only had to water 16ozs (2 cups) everyother day. 7 1/2 weeks total bloom time, 2 plants, 48 grams. Not bad for a few seeds in a corner of a already full tent
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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mnmobbin said:
depends on your enviroment. I just harvested a few in .3 gal airpots with the based moved down making it a .5 gal or so. Temps at canopy are 73-78 lights on drop to 65 lights off, rh 50-60 in a 1kw 4x4 tent. Only had to water 16ozs (2 cups) everyother day. 7 1/2 weeks total bloom time, 2 plants, 48 grams. Not bad for a few seeds in a corner of a already full tent
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it would be a pain in the ass to have to water 42 individual containers every other day.

my 3+ gallon containers only need to be watered every 5-7 days in the winter.
 
Mr. Bubble

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well then...NEVERMIND! :dunce: yeah I think his bakery got shut down right around the time they put the squeeze on all of the dispensaries around there (last year)
 
angryblackman

angryblackman

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Mr. Bubble said:
well then...NEVERMIND! :dunce: yeah I think his bakery got shut down right around the time they put the squeeze on all of the dispensaries around there (last year)
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The kitchen he was using didn't like the press he was getting. I have had the honor of hanging out with him and his family a few times. I should give him a call and see how he is doing. :)
 
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