Timber Ain't Playin....Check This out

Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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It always confuses me on par maps, how can the corners each be so different if the rig happens to be perfectly symmetrical?
 
race winslow

race winslow

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Rocket Soul said:
Is there anything like a diode count?
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That's certainly a key question.
There'll probably be a couple of drivers as well.
My guess is that there should be good diode density as Timber tends not to overdrive their lights. The heatsink design looks interesting too.
I do like that they're stating the actual light spectrum. Too many brands rely on the "optimized for growing" description.
 
RainDan

RainDan

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Hello,

Thank you for the post @race winslow - we do indeed have a new product lineup planned. Final details are being made to the product datasheet and then we will renew the link in the initial post, likely later today.

I did want to answer the questions posed thus far:

1. Each board is a Samsung built product. It was co-developed by ourselves and the engineers at Samsung. Each board utilizes 576 LM301H 3500K 80RA diodes and 24 LH351H 660nM deep red diodes. Total of 2400 diodes on each Magnolia 4.

2. We optimized the spread on the x and y axis to best evenly spread the PAR to the outer corners and edges. Careful attention was placed on not developing a soft spot on the Y=0 axis.

3. Despite repeated levelling and measuring, we were unable to reproduce perfectly symmetrical PAR results. The PAR map as published accurately reflects our measurements. We used an Apogee IQ-500 quantum meter in a closed 4x4 tent.

4. We use a quad driver design fuse protected at each driver.

We appreciate your support - as more details become available we will be sure to post them here.

Have a good day!

Dan
 
race winslow

race winslow

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RainDan said:
Hello,

Thank you for the post @race winslow - we do indeed have a new product lineup planned. Final details are being made to the product datasheet and then we will renew the link in the initial post, likely later today.

I did want to answer the questions posed thus far:

1. Each board is a Samsung built product. It was co-developed by ourselves and the engineers at Samsung. Each board utilizes 576 LM301H 3500K 80RA diodes and 24 LH351H 660nM deep red diodes. Total of 2400 diodes on each Magnolia 4.

2. We optimized the spread on the x and y axis to best evenly spread the PAR to the outer corners and edges. Careful attention was placed on not developing a soft spot on the Y=0 axis.

3. Despite repeated levelling and measuring, we were unable to reproduce perfectly symmetrical PAR results. The PAR map as published accurately reflects our measurements. We used an Apogee IQ-500 quantum meter in a closed 4x4 tent.

4. We use a quad driver design fuse protected at each driver.

We appreciate your support - as more details become available we will be sure to post them here.

Have a good day!

Dan
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Thanks Dan! I'm sure many people here will appreciate clarification of the various design points.
Also, just to be clear, it sounds like what you're using is a single driver housing partitioned into 4 separate channels with each channel having it's own fuse. Is that accurate?
Finally, do you plan to allow for remote mounting of the driver?
Definitely looking forward to the final design and price point.
 
RainDan

RainDan

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race winslow said:
Thanks Dan! I'm sure many people here will appreciate clarification of the various design points.
Also, just to be clear, it sounds like what you're using is a single driver housing partitioned into 4 separate channels with each channel having it's own fuse. Is that accurate?
Finally, do you plan to allow for remote mounting of the driver?
Definitely looking forward to the final design and price point.
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No problem - to further clarify we will be using (4) independent Meanwell drivers, each with their own dedicated fuse protection, running as a single 700 watt array. This is an important note as in the event of a driver or fuse failure, at least 75% of the light will remain operational. Each driver comes with a live and a spare fuse for hot swap fixes.

Remote mounting is not currently planned as an off the shelf option.
 
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NewGrower2011

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Curious why manufacturers aren't embracing the remote driver option?? For me that's something that would stand out in my decision making. I mean even if I didn't want it in a current setup, having the option is super for future considerations. Anyone with heat management challenges would appreciate the option I'd suspect. Is there some technical reason why it's not becoming a standard? I could see a very small increase in cost and manufacturing as you'd have some type of connector in there. You'd also be able to upsell the extension cables, etc.
 
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NewGrower2011

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Also, any ETA on them as I may be in the market within the next couple of months. Right now I'm also looking at options that include intelligent/smart controllers (ideally wifi enabled / automation friendly) as I like the newer ones that self-dim to help manage heat. That and the ones that can run 2 fixtures (i.e. a flip-flop pair of tents/fixtures).
 
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