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Thundercat

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So a couple weeks back I decided to use up all the trim I had laying around and make some Iso hash for the first time, and some more butter. Well The Iso came out great, I tried 2 different techniques of making it, and got 2 very different but both great products. I did the standard shake it around with the alcohol method, and then straining it and filtering it. Turned out a rather green liquid, and a very black hash. Pretty good, and I didn't weigh what I started with but I got like 4-5g of this end product. I took this which was very sticky, and almost oily, and mixed it with a bunch of keif I had around until it was the consistency of nice hash, and not completely sticky to the touch. This stufff smokes great, a little bubble, and it cooks off to a clean white ash. I've been doing hash hits from under a glass the last 2 days, all I can say is fuck ya! The second time I tryed a different technique, and kinda modified it for my liking. I used less material, and just poured the alcohol over it into another container. I then repeated this several ties with the same alcohol, but with fresh material. This resulted in a waaaaay cleaner oil. And it truely was an oil. It was a beautiful amber color and perfectly clear. At room temp it was very thick and sticky, but with just the tiniest bit of heat it liquified. I don't have an oil rig, so I found that dropping some on the inside of a blunt wrap before I rolled it worked awesome. I had no good way to weigh it, but II was smoking on it for a couple weeks, and I also used some of it mixed with cocnut oil to treat the wound from my motorcycle accident. I've only been using it for about 2 months, but it REALLY seems like the wound is healing so much faster and the skin seems to be repairing itself with hopefully little to no scar. So all in all the ISO experiments were a huge success I think, and I'll be making more after my next harvest. Along with that I got about 6 sticks of butter cooked up.

What made me think of all this is I am sitting here eating a bowl of homemade strawberry ice cream with a special cookie crumbled up on top! Not tryin to be a dick, just thought I'd make you guys a little jealous for a change.

peace TC
 

theloadeddragon

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So a couple weeks back I decided to use up all the trim I had laying around and make some Iso hash for the first time, and some more butter. Well The Iso came out great, I tried 2 different techniques of making it, and got 2 very different but both great products. I did the standard shake it around with the alcohol method, and then straining it and filtering it. Turned out a rather green liquid, and a very black hash. Pretty good, and I didn't weigh what I started with but I got like 4-5g of this end product. I took this which was very sticky, and almost oily, and mixed it with a bunch of keif I had around until it was the consistency of nice hash, and not completely sticky to the touch. This stufff smokes great, a little bubble, and it cooks off to a clean white ash. I've been doing hash hits from under a glass the last 2 days, all I can say is fuck ya! The second time I tryed a different technique, and kinda modified it for my liking. I used less material, and just poured the alcohol over it into another container. I then repeated this several ties with the same alcohol, but with fresh material. This resulted in a waaaaay cleaner oil. And it truely was an oil. It was a beautiful amber color and perfectly clear. At room temp it was very thick and sticky, but with just the tiniest bit of heat it liquified. I don't have an oil rig, so I found that dropping some on the inside of a blunt wrap before I rolled it worked awesome. I had no good way to weigh it, but II was smoking on it for a couple weeks, and I also used some of it mixed with cocnut oil to treat the wound from my motorcycle accident. I've only been using it for about 2 months, but it REALLY seems like the wound is healing so much faster and the skin seems to be repairing itself with hopefully little to no scar. So all in all the ISO experiments were a huge success I think, and I'll be making more after my next harvest. Along with that I got about 6 sticks of butter cooked up.

What made me think of all this is I am sitting here eating a bowl of homemade strawberry ice cream with a special cookie crumbled up on top! Not tryin to be a dick, just thought I'd make you guys a little jealous for a change.

peace TC
I have wanted to eventually get into Salve and oil treatments for different things by using/mixing Cannabis oils/extracts. Awesome to hear, but sorry you got hurt bro. Speedy recovery man.
 

Thundercat

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Its been going really well the last few months, I'm prolly not gonna get 100%, but I'll do the best I can with what I get! Just looking to figure out my next step like I'm always talking about. I feel like I'm on the verge of something big, and just need to get my ducks in order to make it work.

Some guys bitch about ISO and BHO, I did ISO because it had way less fumes then BHO which you MUST do outside. I highly recommend a small glass or metal dish for the oils and such, they will stick to plastic bad. The ISO worked great like I said and I would totally recommend giving it a try. The oil blended into the coconut oil with just a small amount of warmth, I've also read about people mixing these and putting them in gel caps for meds. I've just started getting into the concentrate thing, but its pretty neat all the stufff you can do. I do think that concentrates are where the truest healing power is too.
 

theloadeddragon

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Yes, and I mean to combine it with other oils, herbs, minerals, etc. I want to experiment around and do some research sometime. its years away for me. So much to do first.

Good that your healing well.

Im too baked to talk about hash making right now. haha.

But when you get out here.... we should be neighbors ;)
 

Roomie

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Its been going really well the last few months, I'm prolly not gonna get 100%, but I'll do the best I can with what I get! Just looking to figure out my next step like I'm always talking about. I feel like I'm on the verge of something big, and just need to get my ducks in order to make it work.

Some guys bitch about ISO and BHO, I did ISO because it had way less fumes then BHO which you MUST do outside. I highly recommend a small glass or metal dish for the oils and such, they will stick to plastic bad. The ISO worked great like I said and I would totally recommend giving it a try. The oil blended into the coconut oil with just a small amount of warmth, I've also read about people mixing these and putting them in gel caps for meds. I've just started getting into the concentrate thing, but its pretty neat all the stufff you can do. I do think that concentrates are where the truest healing power is too.
Have you or anyone you know tried the e-cig vaporizers for hash oil? I've seen a few questionable products online, no proof it actually works.
 
Lookin' sweet T'cat.........................................I tried to get through this whole thread but couldn't do it. Mushrooms eh?............

I have a funny story about picking mushrooms, maybe I'll share it one day.

Anyway, I'll be watching here to see how you progress......................and I hope for a speedy recovery for you, I hate motorcycles.........I've wittnessed some serious carnage and death of youthfull people, on bikes.
 

Thundercat

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Thanks for swinging by everyone, it feels nice to have the thread back up and running.

Dragon you know how important good neighbors are! Have you looked at Pheonixtears.com or [video=youtube;5fhJvdHrxX8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fhJvdHrxX8[/video]

Roomie I have heard about the vape cartridges, I was reading a thread the other day where the guy was talking about getting some of those. I love the idea, esspecially if they didn't have a strong smell. You could get away with carrying an e-cig almost anywhere. I don't know much more about them, not living in a med state limits my exposure to some of the cool new stuff. I used to work with a guy that was all into "vapeing". He was always ordering these different flavored oils with nicotine in them, and walking around with this big silver hand held vaporizer. We made fun of him pretty bad, I mostly thought it was dumb cus I think cigs are dumb. My one concern I'd have with the e-cigs, and the vapoizing like he did was that the oils he used where made out of ethaline glycol and other chemicals which are basic components in antifreeze. I never liked the idea of vaporizing antifreeze, but some pure hash oil would be a very different story.

Hey Mr. Green scene glad to see you made it over. I wouldn't suggest trying to read it all in one sitting, there is a fair bit of use just bullshitting around hanging out at different points.
The shrooms were such a fun and educational project. I really can't wait to do it again as soon as possible. I've found over the years the only way to get shrooms reliably is to grow them myself. I'd love to hear your stories about them, but I can say I have never picked wild ones. I don't have enough experiance with wild ones to trust myself. My weed growing part of the journal started right after most of the mushroom stuff(wasn't sure how far you got).

I've always loved riding dirtbikes and quads off road, but this was my first street bike. I guess I can say I got it out of my system quickly, cus I'm not planning on getting another. The most frustrating thing is simply that I wasn't even being dumb when I wrecked. I wasn't going super fast, or trying to do tricks of any thing dumb, it was just my inexperience and a tricky corner.

So things were still looking great last night, all the plants I took the clones off are growing back nicely. They will all prolly get turned into either 2 top, or 4 top mothers over the next few weeks. As soon as this round of clones is rooted, I'm gonna try to get another batch going and try to get back on a cycle. Wednesday night I took a few side branchs off the flowering girls that had gotten lankier then I wanted. I think it will be the last trim I do, and just let them turn into colas now. I took 4 of the small bottom branches off the strawberry that is in flowering, and cloned those. They have only had flowers for a few days so I'm hoping those ones take. They weren't quite big enough the last time I took clones off it before flowering. That will give me about 6 off that plant, and if it flowers out nice, I'll either re veg it into a mom, or just turn one of the clones into a mom. Not sure, I guess it will all depend on how fast they grow, and how good they flower out.

We'll I'll quit rambling for now, but if you guys have any ideas, I'm toying with ways I can try to improve everything.
 

GK1

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Hey bro,
Nice set up. I read somewhere you are using the lucas method......if you're interested in trying something different next time hit me up....the latest research points to a different ratio than 1-1-2. Pretty cool shit to play with. Peace.
 

Thundercat

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I used the lucas method the last 2 runs, which I took right out of hightimes. It wasnt even 1:1:2, it doesn't call for any of the gro, it was composed of just the micro and bloom. They said it had enough N in those 2 mixes that you didn't need the gro, and I had pretty good results honestly. Very comparable with anything I had tried in the past. This run I have been following closer to the GH recommendations on the bottle, giving that a try.

What do you have in mind, I'm open to new ideas.
 

jigfresh

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Hey TC, been meaning to post on yer thread for a bit. Wanted to say how happy I am that you didn't get any more hurt. I'm glad you are here with us and here for your little one. Get better soon bro.

:) happy sunday!

oh.... floppy lives. Sorry I didn't get your post about removing the leaves. You get full credit.
 

Thundercat

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lol I wasn't looking for credit but thanks bud. I was just hoping floppy would make it. Some people are really against cutting stuff off their plants, but I've had similar things happen and sometimes they just need some surgery.

I'm glad you made it over, its great being here with everyone.

The last 6 months I've been home and off work, which has sucked in some ways. However right from the beginning its been awesome to be home with my daughter. She just turned 3 and is growing and learning so fast. Its amazing to get to spend this time with her, and get to be part of all of it. Normally I would be at work 8-10 hours a day often times until after 9 at night. So there wasn't alot of time to spend with my daughter and wife. Now I get to read to her, and play with her all day, we have a pretty good time, she seems glad to have me at home.
 

theloadeddragon

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lol I wasn't looking for credit but thanks bud. I was just hoping floppy would make it. Some people are really against cutting stuff off their plants, but I've had similar things happen and sometimes they just need some surgery.

I'm glad you made it over, its great being here with everyone.

The last 6 months I've been home and off work, which has sucked in some ways. However right from the beginning its been awesome to be home with my daughter. She just turned 3 and is growing and learning so fast. Its amazing to get to spend this time with her, and get to be part of all of it. Normally I would be at work 8-10 hours a day often times until after 9 at night. So there wasn't alot of time to spend with my daughter and wife. Now I get to read to her, and play with her all day, we have a pretty good time, she seems glad to have me at home.
Hell yeah bro! Me and my kids have had nothing but a bunch of time together since the first. Its so nice the way they come in one by one in the mornings and cuddle up with me, then slowly drag me out of bed to make big breakfasts! Coloring, painting, reading.... and my daughter Loves gardening with me, she is the real green thumb :). I also suffered some losses and injuries in my own form... and there they are to heal from the inside out :)

And that was a good call about the little floppy. I dont think I saw your post, I should have paid more attention. good eye bro.
 

Thundercat

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So today marks the end of week one for all the girls in my tray. They are all looking nice and buds have began to fill in. I've got one WW in there that hasn't started to show, but I only put her in last weekend so she's a week or so behind. I also topped her a day or 2 after I put her in, so she is going to be interesting. I topped it just above the 2nd node(UB style) and its started to grow into 4 stems each about an inch long now. I'm thinking with it about to start flowering they might only get to be 6 inchs tall, but if its female then I have a clone so its all good.

I'm actually hoping that one of these seeds I started from my WW will be a male. I think its unlikely since I got them from a female that selfed them, but it would be sweet. I'd love to find a male WW that I could then cross with my female WW and perhaps the strawberry and C99 as well. Then my WW would really be my WW, not G13 labs WW. I've always wanted to do some breeding, but all the males I've ever got were full blooded sativas, and I didn't care to bother with those.

The seedlings were looking great last night, the self topped C99 (which I'm calling #1 for now) is on it second set of leave. So is the critical jack, and its looking real nice. The twin C99 (or #2) is also looking good, moving slow as expected, especially since its a twin. Its working on its first leaves on both sprouts.

All the other girls that I topped last week are looking great, and developing some nice regrowth. They are all turning into nice multi top moms, I am thinking about busting out some bondage and doing the mainline thing on them. I had never had a name for it, but thats how I like to grow bushes. When I did my bush grow back in 09, I had trained them, and tied them into the "manifolds" and then all my growth basically came out of there. Makes for a very nice uniform bush, and buds. My WW mom is basically been trained that way.
 

Thundercat

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The larger of the twin sprouts is getting larger still, its working on it second set of leaves now. I really wish I had about twice as much room in my veg room. I'd like to put all my girls I think are gonna be moms in some soil, but space is limited.
 

Thundercat

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Things continue to go well around here for the most part. All the seedlings are getting much bigger, the critical jack being the largest of them. Its on its 4th node I believe and growing strong, if its roots aren't down to the res in the cup yet they will be soon. Then I'll prolly top it once its big enough to clone, and try to get her (feminized so it should be a her) going.

The flowering girls are looking pretty good too. The strawberry is starting to get some fading towards an orangie yellow color on some of the upper fan leaves. I'm not really sure why or what it is. I'll get a pic tomorrow, it doesn't look like N and the rest of the plant is nice and dark green so I don't think it should be. I've considered maybe Mag but I think I've had my PH in the right spot, I do have some epsom salt I could try adding. I'm gonna do a res change and a plain water flush tomorrow and flush it for 24 hrs, and see what happens. The only other thing I've noticed are some tiny rusty spots on the diesel fans they don't seem to be getting much worse but it concerns me. I really wish I had better water to work with, my tap water sucks horse sac. The house also doesn't have enough water pressure to run an RO filter I already tried that. Once I get the pictures up maybe you guys will have some idea what it looks like to you. I'm currently right about day 19 and they are already frosty as hell and stink to high heaven. One of these days I really need to wire my bigger fan and replace the little booster fan I have moving air. I also am going to get another oscolating fan to put at the opposite side of my garden. The tray is honestly a bit over filled, its getting pretty tight in there especially with the 4 headed WW.

Thats looking interresting, it stretched up about 3 inchs more then I wanted it to, which surprised me since it was topped after it had been in 12/12 for 3-4 days. That being said, I'm gonna pinch the bottom of the branchs a bit, and try to sturdy them up. It has started setting flowers now so I think it will be lookin good other then how much space it takes.

I'm hoping to figure out what I'm gonna do for a res, and get my second tray set up, or maybe spring and buy a 4x4 hmmmmm. I did just get my taxes done I might have to toy with this. GOD I need more space to veg in!! What kills me is I have more basement space, but the way the joists on the ceiling are layed out It would be a bitch too add onto my rooms. I did just this minute get the thought of buying a tent to have more veg space. That would be easy enough hmm, I'm getting all kinds of ideas my wife is not gonna want to hear. Pick up a new 400 or get my old one back maybe, and finally have someplace to keep my mothers.

Well I'm done rambling for the moment, I'm sure I'll have a another novel tomorrow with the pics. You guys have a great night!

Peace TC :bigjoint:
 

jigfresh

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I did have a great night. THanks. Can't wait to see the pics. Sounds like thing are moving right along.

At my place we have out of control water pressure. I think it actually broke my ro filter it was too high.
 
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