Thundercat's Groooooooow

Hehe, the first pic is sideways, it is a glass block window which will prolly be getting covered with plastic. There is a garden on the outside of the window, so you can see light, but not anything else. Once I plastic the tent, light should be a non-issue, but I might plastic the window just incase.

Well I am gonna have to have a long conversation with my GF. She is all about my grows, she loves it, and the buds lol. But last night she found out that her mother might be coming for christmas and now she wants me to wait till then to start. I don't know if I can do that. Things have been flowing so purfectly, and I want to grow damn it. We'll see what happens, like I said we gotta have a looong conversation.

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, lol, it aint like her gran mammy is gonna wanna grant tour of the basement too!! grow that shit man, just go pick yourself up some carbon filter action (if you cant pick up an actual storebought one, just do Zen's DIY wal mart filter man -- works just as well), n if you DO do that zen filter, just make like 3 of them and put them all throughout the growroom dude. Either that or use whatever you were originally gonna use for smell, n then order yourself a couple jars of ONA. Lemme tell u dude, I went into my room that my tent was in yesterday, and it SMELLED, lol. I immediately hooked up my filter, but either HTG didnt fill it right, or it just sucks right at themoment cuz it didnt work very well - so i opened up the three jars of ona i bought a while back, n fuckin 10 minutes later NO weed smell whatsoever. Was sad as fuck not to be able to bask in the stink, but glad that there aint no stink to bask in anymore, thats for damn sure.

You can do it man, dont let grammy stop ya

Thundercat said:

Thats sweet man, so you got your card? Are you gonna journal them again?

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Nah unfortunately I didn't. Im going to start my journal in about a week or so. Hopefully I'll have some pretty girls to show off.

Well King, I havn't had to conversation yet, so I'm still not sure whats gonna happen. I'm not really worried about the smell yet, but I have a couple things lined up to take care of it. Still whats this ONA I've never heard of it where did you get it?

Smokedat- sorry you didn't get your card man, but I'll be looking forward to the journal!

Thundercat said:

Well King, I havn't had to conversation yet, so I'm still not sure whats gonna happen. I'm not really worried about the smell yet, but I have a couple things lined up to take care of it. Still whats this ONA I've never heard of it where did you get it?

Smokedat- sorry you didn't get your card man, but I'll be looking forward to the journal!

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Ona is fuckin awesome bro. If you dont have a hydro shop nearby, just order it online man. it comes in multiple forms, but the most used is just a jar. you open it, and it has this gel inside, thats a really powerful oder neutralizer. Even having one right outside your growroom will take away the majority of the smell. if you get 2 or 3, your golden. Add in a carbon filter, and nobody would even think you had a grow goin on man, serious bizness. gimme 2 seconds here n ill put up a link for ya
High Tech Garden Supply

I like it man. It completely killed any odor goin on outside of the tent, and i dont even have the tent air/light tight yet. its just got a flap over the top 3 feet of the front, and the bottom 2 feet is still open air. That ONA blocks all odor from creepin out of the room, and even when im in the room i have to stick my nose right up to the plants in order to smell the dankness. at HTG is $8.95 for a 8oz jar - not too bad at all, considering i bought mine for $15 bucks a jar at my hydro shop.

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Was sad as fuck not to be able to bask in the stink, but glad that there aint no stink to bask in anymore, thats for damn sure.

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I can smell mine from across the street =)

Lol I hope not 420 guy, might be an issue depending where you live. It is a funny thought though. I can imagine walkin past your house and just being like damn, thats some dank shit. lmao

Oh hehe, and thanks for the info King.

These pics look like something scary is in there like that Mind#uck post, but that is a nice huge space....

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Ok guys here are a couple pics of the tent before I put the plastic on it. I still need to get to lowes and get one more fitting to finish it, and I need to get the mylar before I plastic it. But this will give you an idea on the size and shape of what I'm doing.

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how are you going to wrap that frame? I want to see pics of how you do it, I've gotten it down pretty good, but I use wood so i can staple the plastic down. I have been wanting to design a pipe frame that can be broken down way easier than a wooden frame.

Thats why I went with the pipe frame, for easy disassembly. I'm only gonna glue half of the joints so that it comes apart very simply. I am going to use velcro to attach the plastic to the frame, I should have that done in the next day or 2, I've been real busy with work and stuff, and havn't been in a huge hurry since my gf hasn't given me a straight answer yet about when I can start. I'm gonna need about 80' of velcro to do what I want. I'm going to cut the plastic panels to the correct size on the floor (upstairs). Then once I go pick some up, I will use a spray adhesive to stick the mylar, or wrapping paper or what ever to the black plastic, and apply the velrco to the edge of the sheets. Velcro the pipes and I should have a light proof tent. (fingers crossed) I'll get some pics up once its done, or maybe of the construcition its self. Latta guys! TC

are you going to be using a passive intake on that tent? I ask because I am curious to see if you can get a good bond with the adhesive from the velcro to the plastic, much less spray adhesive to have a long term bond on the plastic as well. I have been using insulating metal tape and I dont think it will stand the test of time, the best is having it all sewn together but I am no seamtress and dont know one. I mean its holding even with the strong negitive pressue being put on it every day, but with out the staples I dont think it would last this long!
when you do get it going please take pics and record the date you stick everything together, I'd like to have another source of data to match up with ya know.

also y didnt you just get all threaded pipes and fittings so you could just screw it together/apart?

TC, be careful with any types of adhesives you use for bonding materials in your tent bro. Remember what happened with my tent? the same basic principals would apply - all it would take is for some of that adhesive to get heated up, and if it reacts the wrong way with your atmosphere inside the tent, it could kill off anything you put in there. Now, of course im no expert, so i dont know how it would work really with a store bought adhesive with what your doin, but i just wanted to put that into your mind, so you have all your bases covered with this one. Youll prolly be ok though, im sure that the manufacturers of hydrohut were using some seriously volatile shit, lol.

Some of the pipes have threaded fittings on the ends for that reason, but I spent like 160 bucks at lowes that day without adding more to the list. Also they didn't sell any pre threaded pipes at my lowes, so I would have had to buy adapters for all the ends, plus use differant joints at the ends. Come to think of it I don't think they even had any corner (3way) adapters that had all sides threaded. I think the way I've got it set up, that the structure will be pretty secure. I have one more cross member that I"m going to add to the top middle in order to hang my light, and strengthen it further, but that will be simple to add.

I have been thinking about the adhesive for the last week, and trying to decide the best way to do it. I havn't decided exactly what the plan is just yet, I could easily staple the velrco through the plastic and mylar around the edges, in addition to the adhesive on the sheets. That should add further durability. I'm going to try to use a commercial grade spray adhesive, and I'll attach the velcro to the frame with a stronger type of glue then the spray, thats just for the main surface of the plastic/mylar sheets. I want to use the velcro so that all I have to do is detach the sheets, and roll them up if I need to take it all down.

I'm planning a passive intake, but I still also need an exhaust fan, or I may just get an air cooled hood, and not vent the room at all. That I think is what I would really like to do, either get a cool tube, or just a vented hood, and just vent the hot air. I have a couple fans for the inside of the tent to move air, and also 2 differant air filter systems I am going to try once they start getting some smell. I will prolly also get a couple jars of that ONA that King was talking about sounds like good stuff. I would like to get the cooled hood so that I can add CO2 in the near future aswell. That would allow me to run the co2 and not worry about it getting vented back out of the tent. Obviously I'll have to have some sort of vent out, but an air cooled hood would greatly decrease the amount of time which I needed to run that vent, maybe only 1-2 times a day. My basement stays at a pretty constant 62 degrees, now that its winter, I can drop that temp a bit with the small vent windows down there, but I think that with the size of the basement heat shouldn't be a problem. ONce I get the lights going, I'm sure that keeping the room around 75 should be easy enough.

I know I still have a bunch of stuff to work out, but I'm tryin. I appreciate the input, and suggestions guys thanks!

Hehe King that did go through my mind. All I can do is try. I will see if there are any temps on the adhesive, that might make a differance. Also the size of the tent might make a differance, I don't know man. Do you guys have any better ideas on how to affix the reflective material to the plastic other then adhesive?

I like that idea of unvelcroing the panels and rolling them up, come to think of it, it wouldnt be that hard to get the velcro sew'd on to the edges of the pieces, then use the tape to seal over the seam if I could get ahold of a decent sewing machine. but who am i kidding, me sewing velcro to panda roll, thats funny to think of! might try it on the next small grow tent tho.

Is the panda film light proof? I've been wondering if that would be a better way for my to go then with the plastic and reflective sheets. My only complaint about my plan is that velcro is fucking expensive. I'm going to need around 80' of it for my tent, and the cheapest I found it is 3' for .99 at jo-ann fabrics. Thats the off brand stuff, actual velcro is like $1 a foot. I just went and got my last pipe fittings, so the frame is complete for now, you know until I start changing it later lol. It all ways happens. Because of some delays getting started I havn't bought the velrco yet, but I still might go get it later today gotta see how much cash I have.

Well I've been thinking about it all after noon, and aslong as the panda film is light proof, I'm just gonna get a big roll of that, and use it to cover my frame. I've been adding up all the supplies I'm buying for the cover I had planned, and its gonna be about the same price, and this way I don't have to glue anything, or mess with shit. I can just attach the velrco to the frame and to the panda film, and be done with it. Should be much simpler. You know what they say KISS. I think I'm just gonna go ahead and order some from HTG once I return the plastic I bought already. That is if you guys think it will be light proof enough!

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Well I've been thinking about it all after noon, and aslong as the panda film is light proof, I'm just gonna get a big roll of that, and use it to cover my frame. I've been adding up all the supplies I'm buying for the cover I had planned, and its gonna be about the same price, and this way I don't have to glue anything, or mess with shit. I can just attach the velrco to the frame and to the panda film, and be done with it. Should be much simpler. You know what they say KISS. I think I'm just gonna go ahead and order some from HTG once I return the plastic I bought already. That is if you guys think it will be light proof enough!

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I know it will be light proof enough!! no light is getting in that panda, now you can get ambiance light from inside the tent kinda glowing but that is with my 2 1K's in there and you can not see that ambiance from outside the room the tent is in, you know from under the door light,
the veg tent with the 400mh, 4 t5's and a 4x4 shop floros you can only see light from the zippers not thru the panda. it is so worth it, and is totally KISS!
and you know for the ability to roll it up and pack it if need be i think its worth the velcro, as long as it sticks. and try to use the least amount as possiable, I think you could get away with 4 panels if you make a top and bottom pan and then wrap 3 sides with one piece and use one end for ur door, make the whole side the door ya know opening from the corner. I like that idea going to use it next time for sure!!