Thug pug genetics anyone?
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Misterpfffff
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Rotten Bananas aren't germing well, I may get 1-2 if I'm lucky, unfortunate at 500 buckeroos.... ooooof. Was hoping for 4-5 at least out of the 12 in the pack.
So, making up for the room with the Sophiesbreath. Might make an f2 since I'm saving males from the banana og to run, so I can get pollen from one of them at the same time. 12 in the towel!
So, making up for the room with the Sophiesbreath. Might make an f2 since I'm saving males from the banana og to run, so I can get pollen from one of them at the same time. 12 in the towel!
vitalsine
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Sorry to hear about the Rotten Bananas. How old are those?
Misterpfffff
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6-8 years from what Gromer said! Old and knew they were a risk! But ya at least hope for half ya know haha.
Dividedsky
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You're a little late to the party, oregon elite seeds is probably your best bet, but you're going to have to bust out your wallet and pay some premium/high prices for seed packs that were $80 a pack not to long ago.
Dividedsky
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Meat breath still looks fire I nute burned my meat breath a bit, think she is a bit sensitive and I didn't feed that high. Awesome work bro!
loop718
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Thanks bro! I know i hardly fed and burnt her, she doesn’t want much light either. I had par at 750 and she was still not feeling it. I run so many other strains that want 1100 par so its gna b hard to really dial her. Let me add she does not like any nitrogen in flower either. This is crawns cut and his goes straight black. Mine stayed green and hardly faded at all i will cut nitrogen after flip next run.
Dividedsky
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Ya 100%, I'll keep that in mind with the N- good to know, ya mine is not crawns but hey they are the same strain and I found she didn't like to much light as well. Had 1000 watts cranked on her switched from mh at the beginning of flower to hps then back to mh at the end. My meat did get a lil light burned as well, though I think that could've been due to missing my scheduled watering by hours( you know how it is) a few times. Going to run 4 plants of my meat breath in 5 gals pots next run and get her really dialed in. Anyways dude- as always your stuff looks fuego man, you always grow top notch, elite flower Loop!
loop718
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Thanks brotha you too! Garlic breath lookin fuego. We have came to the conclusion we have to shade our meat
Dividedsky
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Haha ya man...also feel like we're harvesting pretty close to the same times, our flower rooms must be on a similar schedule, lol.Thanks brotha you too! Garlic breath lookin fuego. We have came to the conclusion we have to shade our meat
Growitpondifarm
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White are you guys using for light meters ?
Dividedsky
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I don't use a light meter, basically change my 1000w hps and mh bulbs every 1-2 runs. I might crank my digi ballast to 750watts the 1st 2 to 5 days at beginning of flower but thats about it.
Dividedsky
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Also I have 4- 1000 watts hps/mh lights and 1-630 watt cmh in my main flower room. Its sealed with with mini split and co2. Try to run the mh bulbs first 10 days of flower then switch to hps most of flower....last 2 weeks to last 10 days before chop might switch to mh. I like mixing up the spectrum. I run the 630cmh in middle of room split into 2 open 315w hoods with 2- 3200k and 2- 4100k bulb.
Railage
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Apogee MQ-620
That’s only our second par meter but it measures the par from a full spectrum LED light a lot more accurately than the other one we had, it would be reading like 800 on a light and the new meter would be saying like 1100.
The older par meter works just fine on our LED lights that are not full spectrum.
Growitpondifarm
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Thanks for the info guys, been wanting to build a new space for my indoor garden and want to make sure my light spread is solid. Everyone in this thread seems to have their shit dialed. Will check out that meter railage, I grow under 3500k COB so seems like that may be the best option. I’m thinking about jumping to some CMH fixtures if I do upgrade though
Silencio
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Get the cheapo amazon Dr.meter lux meter. For getting an even spread the lux meters work just as well as par meters. The values will always be a 1:1 unless you're mixing lights that have different spectrums. Thats the only case I can think of where the par meter may give slightly different results in certain spots.
It's not needed just for finding hotspots but if you know someone that has a PAR meter you can get them to take measurements and actually get the conversion value of your particular lights spectrum from lux to ppfd. Some manufacturers even do this and give you the conversion values. You can use the range from these QBs to approximate what your own conversion would be:
Converting Lux to PPFD & Measuring Lux with Smartphone
Spectrometer and Quantum Sensor can cost hundreds to thousands of dollars and not every grower can afford them. A Lux meter app on phone can be used to ensure even light spread across canopy and give estimate of Lux. Use a calibrated Lux meter for better accuracy. Just divide the Lux value you...
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colocowboy
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If using for comparison you don’t need more than a lux just like @Silencio said. Except it’s more of a relative intensity, not spectrum. In that a lux doesn’t discriminate spectrum intensity.
oh, and meat madness wants easy nutes also, I did the same, mild burn from seeing if I could squeeze a feed before she started fading.
oh, and meat madness wants easy nutes also, I did the same, mild burn from seeing if I could squeeze a feed before she started fading.
loop718
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Apogee mq 500 best money i have ever spent!
Silencio
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To clarify I believe lux does differentiate spectrum intensity, it just doesn't take the FULL spectrum into consideration. If your lux meter reads the same number across your canopy your par meter will as well. The only time this becomes an issue is if you're mixing lights and throwing different spectrums around your room unevenly. In particular deep red supplements (660nm) will get missed completely by your lux meter. If you're running a full room a cobs this won't be an issue for you.
Even still, the difference between lights with and without red supplments is pretty minimal. If we look at HLG reddest WB and comparire to their bluest QB we get:
Blue = QB 288 4000k is 69.5 lumens/ppf
Red = QB288 RSPEC is 64.5 lumens/ppf
That's a pretty small range. Not sure if knowing exactly where you fall in that range really gives you anymore information.
Corso312
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Nice.. Real outdoor or greenhouse?